Receiving Jesus. - What does it mean?

[Rockerduck]

John only writes to the deity of the risen Christ. John 1:11-12 means, that the Jews rejected Jesus and the ones after Pentecost, who accepted Jesus, became children of God, by Faith in Christ Jesus. Ephesians 2:8 - For by grace you have been saved through faith, and not that of yourselves, it is the gift of God.

 

[Behold]

Receiving Jesus. - What does it mean?​

It means to place your trust in Christ's finished atonement.

It means to turn from Unbelief,....to repent of unbelief, to change your mind about this, and place your FAITH in Christ.

It means that you have understood by Holy Spirit Revelation that you are a hell bound unforgiven sinner who needs God's MERCY, and you realize it, and you place your faith in Christ and receive God's "Gift of Salvation".

Its that quiet place in the heart where Jesus has entered and you hear Him calling you to come and trust and believe.

Its that moment when you see Jesus's outstretched arms on The Cross as God's eternal offer of Unconditional Forgiveness and Unconditional Love.

 

[St. SteVen]

John only writes to the deity of the resin Christ. John 1:11-12 means, that the Jews rejected Jesus and the ones after Pentecost, who accepted Jesus, became children of God, by Faith in Christ Jesus. Ephesians 2:8 - For by grace you have been saved through faith, and not that of yourselves, it is the gift of God.

It says, "Yet to all..."
Why would you limit that?

John 1:11-12 NIV
He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him.
12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name,
he gave the right to become children of God—

 

[Rockerduck]

It says, "Yet to all..."
Why would you limit that?

John 1:11-12 NIV
He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him.
12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name,
he gave the right to become children of God—

"Yet to all" who did received Him (after Pentecost), to those who believed in His name.. It is limited to those who believed in Jesus, versus those who did not. Those that believed on Jesus became Children of God.

 

[St. SteVen]

"Yet to all" who did received Him (after Pentecost), to those who believed in His name.. It is limited to those who believed in Jesus, versus those who did not. Those that believed on Jesus became Children of God.

In your previous post you limited it to "the Jews" who "rejected Jesus and the ones after Pentecost".
Did I misunderstand you?

I believe in universal salvation, so... it would apply primarily to the Elect in this present age.
And I experienced it myself. (receiving Christ)

 

[Rockerduck]

In your previous post you limited it to "the Jews" who "rejected Jesus and the ones after Pentecost".
Did I misunderstand you?

I believe in universal salvation, so... it would apply primarily to the Elect in this present age.
And I experienced it myself. (receiving Christ)

In my first post I was referring to John 1 where Jesus came to the Jews and was rejected. But all who received Him is everyone.,

 

[Jack]

I believe in universal salvation,

So, you can live like the Devil and not go to Hell? Satan LOVES that doctrine!

so... it would apply primarily to the Elect in this present age.
And I experienced it myself. (receiving Christ)

But you said CLEARLY that you don't believe Jesus and the Bible!!!

 

[Brakelite]

Receiving Jesus means accepting everything He is, and everything He offers. The Way the Truth, and the Life, and the abundant life He came to give. The above however only comes to us as we are willing to give Him everything we are, and the stink, wretched, barren life that was ours.
It's a great deal. An exchange. Our sinfulness for His righteousness. Our death for His life. All we need to do is give up all.

 

[St. SteVen]

Receiving Jesus means accepting everything He is, and everything He offers. The Way the Truth, and the Life, and the abundant life He came to give. The above however only comes to us as we are willing to give Him everything we are, and the stink, wretched, barren life that was ours.
It's a great deal. An exchange. Our sinfulness for His righteousness. Our death for His life. All we need to do is give up all.

Yes.
However, we need to bear in mind that a new convert is mostly ignorant of the full impact of what they are receiving.

 

[Brakelite]

Yes.
However, we need to bear in mind that a new convert is mostly ignorant of the full impact of what they are receiving.

A new convert doesn't receive everything at once in case he is overwhelmed or feels he is under compulsion. God does nothing without first getting our approval. He doesn't grant us personally His grace and forgiveness unless we ask. Yes, on Calvary Jesus took all our sins upon Himself. He died for the sins of the entire world. But we all have habits and addictions and fetishes etc that are a blot on our character, impede or relationship with God, and threaten to sink or capsize our salvation altogether. (Yeah, i know. That'll upset a few here). So God doesn't take away those things that can harm us, except we repent of them first, them He gives us the power to overcome. Take smoking for example. He will challenge us on smoking. Why? Because it kills. It shortens life. It's slow suicide. God wants what is best for us. And that's just tobacco. Weed is even worse. (And that's going to upset a few more here). God will convict us of our need to step away from those addictions. Alcohol. (More upsets) . Our bodies ARE temples of the holy Spirit. Read the old Testament and discover what consequences ensured for defiling the temple. Paul said the same for the NT. But God doesn't expect all of us to be clean and pure overnight. Some things take longer than others. And some people are more bound than others.

Yes.
However, we need to bear in mind that a new convert is mostly ignorant of the full impact of what they are receiving.

Which is why the need for Discipleship.

 

[St. SteVen]

Which is why the need for Discipleship.

Unfortunately it rarely happens.
At least the one-on-one type.

 

[Behold]

Yes.
However, we need to bear in mind that a new convert is mostly ignorant of the full impact of what they are receiving.

Yes, a new believer, is a empty vessel who needs to be filled with Paul's doctrine, or they will end up, chasing false gospels like 'universalism" or they will be mind captured by the Mormons or Calvinism or the MaryCult.....for example.


What they dont understand is that once you become a Christian, then the Devil sends in the artillery.
Whereas before it was fornication and good sinful times..they were chasing for Him.......but now that they are God's property, the Devil gets after them with the Heretics, and the half truths, and the false gospels, and the condemnation......and once he has ruined your faith, and has you captured by some heresy-cult theology......... then he just moves onto the next one, because you are finished.......you're deceived.

The MOST Dangerous time for a new Christian, is that first year subsequent to their Salvation......as the Devil is going to bring to them what is going to ruin their Christianity........tho he can't ever end it.
See, the devil has lost the born again........He can't have them back, as they have a NEW Spiritual FATHER ...but, he can blind their mind and soon have them on forums.....teaching a false gospel and other false theology along with the false gospel.