Should a politician or anybody display themselves as Christ

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Was the t.r.u.m.p wrong?

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ScottA

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The answer is in the post itself.

What about that unconditional prophecy of Paula White?

I quote the text again -

I can't remember a person in the OT with such an unconditional promise, not Abraham, not Moses, not King David to name a couple of giants. In the NT maybe the apostles, learned by Jesus and fulfilled with and guided by the Holy Spirit since Pentecost day.
You addressed everything but the italicised line I asked about. Your "unconditional promise" comment makes it sound like you were quoting Trump. Were you?
 

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Jesus never asked us to compare Him to any man. He told us to follow Him, to obey His words, and to be careful not to be deceived. When someone lifts a man up like that, it goes against what Jesus taught.
Careful...Jesus lifted up many as good examples, and we--we all lift up many of the biblical patriarchs, apostles, saints, and heroes--and God, God made a point of making a good example of a donkey over a servant of God! But the real point is--BEING COMPARED TO CHRIST--IS GOOD...NOT BAD.

Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Isaiah 5:20
 

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Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Isaiah 5:20
Oh, that is just great (not)! It shows one doing good getting condemned and killed, and shows Jesus as a killer. Just shameful!
You need to take heed to that verse and stop twisting it to mean something opposite of what it means. How can you call human trafficking, raping, murdering, lying, theft, and self-exaltation "good"??
 

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Careful...Jesus lifted up many as good examples, and we--we all lift up many of the biblical patriarchs, apostles, saints, and heroes--and God, God made a point of making a good example of a donkey over a servant of God! But the real point is--BEING COMPARED TO CHRIST--IS GOOD...NOT BAD.

Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Isaiah 5:20
Don't you realize that there is a HUGE difference in WHO is doing the lifting up? We aren't to exalt ourselves. We are to humble ourselves ...under the mighty hand of God. And HE will lift us up ....but that is conditional .....humility.

The post Trump made was about himself, not any humility about it. We are to lift up Christ, not ourselves.

You Trumpers have things completely backwards.
 

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You need to take heed to that verse and stop twisting it to mean something opposite of what it means. How can you call human trafficking, raping, murdering, lying, theft, and self-exaltation "good"??
I am not calling any of that good--but just the opposite.

Which raises the question: Where are you getting your information? It is obvious, actually, that you are getting it from those who hate the man. Talk about "twisting" things--for goodness sake--"Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you are disqualified." 2 Corinthians 13:5
 

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True, but it goes further than that, this was a prophecy, Mrs. White speaking the words God put in her mouth.

Considering the Prosperity Gospel is a false gospel I consider it highly unlikely the words she spoke were from God.
verily verily i type unto thee
There is something even more deadly and dangerous that we had ALSO better heed .
You are spot on right about what you wrote my friend . The call for examination time is in the house .
WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE JUDGED . JUDGED NOT ONLY THE WORDS OU TTA LIPS
but also the deeds . AND , oh yes AND who the f eather is connected too my friend .
what i mean by the feather is , WHO do they also join hands with and have fellowship with .
OH but it goes even deeper than that .
Not only are we to judge what a man says , what a man does , who a man associates himself with
BUT ALSO T HIS . now its gonna shock some souls to the core . Probably what i just typed would make me seen
as a judgmental dog and hater of humainity .
BuT OH YES there is something else many know not .
IF EVEN THE PROPHET , a teacher , a person , may as well say an angel or a talking donkey
Speaks a word , a dream , and that DREAM , that vision comes to pass . THEY CAN STILL BE FALSE .
Sit down pro deo , for this is not my F IRST rodeo .
GOD ALLOWS THIS ALSO . AND it is about high time folks get a fast hold upon and a nose RIGHT INTO THE BIBLE .
I AINT THE MONSTER PRODEO . its simply by grace GOD put a LOVE f or something upon my heart
THAT is first and foremost . EVEN before son , even before daughter , even before my mot her and my dad
THE LOVE OF GOD . G OD IS TRUTH . HIS WORD IS TRUTH . HIS SPIRIT IS TRUTH and HIS WORDS are TRUTH .
WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE LOVED GOD Above all . NOW IF ANYONE HAS THE SPIRIT
THEY WOULD HAVE .
Me thinks its time , rather than attacking those who remind us to be In BIBLE
that perhaps at the very least , ONE COULD ASK QUESTIONS F IRST .
We were supposed to have judged . Not condemned , but judged .
AND we were supposed to have done so against THE PURE AND LOVELY WORDS of
none other THAN GOD HIMSELF .
Now if what i t ype seems wrong in any way . THE DOOR IS OPEN , ASK me , but dont CONDEMN me as the hater .
Ask . and THEN YOU TEST my answers .
 

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Which raises the question: Where are you getting your information? It is obvious, actually, that you are getting it from those who hate the man.
Ask God and be willing to hear Him.

I have answered this question over and over. I have heard the voice of God ...years ago, when He revealed things to me about Trump. I also have my own personal experiences, as well as knowing people who have never gone public who have spoken to me about their personal experiences with Trump (involvement in threats, briberies, sexual abuse, and child trafficking). The many victims who have spoken up publicly only confirm what I know.

I don't care what your opinion is of me. But when you ignore the voice of the victims, ignore what has been in front of your eyes for decades, and most importantly, ignore the voice of God .....your soul is in danger.
 

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@ScottA Are you saying that if a child, woman (or man, for that matter) speaks out and reports on someone (any person) who has raped, abused, tortured them ...that they're doing so only because they hate that person ...and therefore, they shouldn't be heard or vindicated?
 
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And yet what IF , just what if the scriptures REALLY DO POINT TO JESUS and THE JERSUALEM OF GOD .
OH Indeed t here has always b een a weakness . BUT IT WAS NOT GOD
it was man .
What if i told you that GOD , , would again CHOOSE JERUSALEM .
And that with man this cannot or could not be done .
WHAT IF , oh i say , just what IF , THIS JERSUALEM and this judah , this israel
and this temple
That the prophets at times would speak about . WAS ABOUT THE HEAVENLY .
THE VERY ONE that the earthen had been patterned after, BUT NOT THE TRUE ONE ITSELF .
PAUL KNEW OF IT
as did the apostels . and as do the sheep . THE KINGDOM , THE ISRAEL , THE JERUSALEM
of GOD , THE TEMPLE OF GOD , THE ZION of GOD wherein the CHIEF CORNESTONE IS CHRIST .
OH ITS NOT THE EARTHEN . MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD
I GO TO PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU .
RUN FROM THE NAR REALM , RUN FROM THE RCC
AND RUN RUN AND RUN FROM ANYTHING POLITICAL AND EUCMIENCIAL .
THEY HAVE ZERO IDEA of the ISREAL , the JERSUALEM , THE MOUNT ZION , THE TEMPLE i do speak of .
THEY SEEK THE EARTHEN and they will find on the day of the LORD that the earthen , that the flesh PROFITS NOTHING .
 
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1Pe 4:3
For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:
1Pe 4:4
Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you:

 
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1Pe 4:3
For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:
1Pe 4:4
Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you:

I seen that on the news . Hyprocrisy runs rampant . big ol woman lib liberal man knocks a woman down to the ground .
Kinda odd indeed huh .
Wanna know something else that is very odd . bring a bible into a church
and speak the words of God , then see how you get t reated .
 

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1Pe 4:3
For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:
1Pe 4:4
Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you:

You all should be thankful i am not the man i once was . If i was and i seen that big boy knock that tiny girl down
i would have walked up right behind him and kicked him so hard in a certain spot , OH HE had been hospitalized .
but i know violence with violence just is not the answer . But oh yes , i would have
at one time kicked him so hard , WITH THE INTENT of him being in the hospital . Good thing i aint like that anymore .
 

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1Pe 4:3
For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:
1Pe 4:4
Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you:

This is why i dont like watching the news . the anger i felt when i had first seen that tiny girl get knocked down .
It brought up an ugly thought in my head towards that man . beleive me when i so say
there was a time i would have hurt a man like that real bad . Not good sister . its not the answer .
you already know the left fifty gender plus is wicked and evil .
Sadly however the right does not hold the answer either . We need to cling to Christ sister .
 
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If only. It does not matter what this despicable man does, they will ALWAYS side with him. Their pride overrides all common sense and logic. My head hurts from constantly shaking it at them.
Because I have met, spoken with, looked Trump in the eye personally, and know somethings most do not, I take that personally. What overrides all common sense to me, is hating and judging a man who you don't actually know, and don't have all the information on. :( pryw
 

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hating and judging a man who you don't actually know
Why always throw that "hate card" at people?
Disagreement on policies, and judging someones behaviour does not mean being "hateful".

Getting so sick and tired seeing "Christians" throwing out the hate card.
That's what "the world" does, I was hoping you are not part of that.
I guess I was wrong.

And as far as "judging", we shall know them by their fruits.
But I guess that's all new to you.
 

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Because I have met, spoken with, looked Trump in the eye personally, and know somethings most do not, I take that personally. What overrides all common sense to me, is hating and judging a man who you don't actually know, and don't have all the information on. :( pryw
Extremely concerning knowing what I know of him. Something is very amiss here.
 

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Ask God and be willing to hear Him.

I have answered this question over and over. I have heard the voice of God ...years ago, when He revealed things to me about Trump. I also have my own personal experiences, as well as knowing people who have never gone public who have spoken to me about their personal experiences with Trump (involvement in threats, briberies, sexual abuse, and child trafficking). The many victims who have spoken up publicly only confirm what I know.

I don't care what your opinion is of me. But when you ignore the voice of the victims, ignore what has been in front of your eyes for decades, and most importantly, ignore the voice of God .....your soul is in danger.
@ScottA Are you saying that if a child, woman (or man, for that matter) speaks out and reports on someone (any person) who has raped, abused, tortured them ...that they're doing so only because they hate that person ...and therefore, they shouldn't be heard or vindicated?
Another comparison for you: You have not accounted for false witnesses.

Do you not know that the enemy has literally been paying protesters? There is a lot you have not accounted for and it is not the news, public opinion, or what someone said that we should be listening to--but rather the comparisons to biblical events--because this is biblical.