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Did Jesus say that he was the Messiah?
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Did Jesus say that he was the Messiah?
Did Jesus say that he was the Messiah? - Answering the question
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Taken
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Isa 43:
[10] Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Rev. 1:
[8] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Lord…Jesus, Son, Sent, Prophet, High Priest, Rabbi, Teacher, Word, Truth, Life, Savior, Kingdom Heaven and Earth;
Appeared in a visible Body God Prepared.
God…LORD, Yahweh, Father, Invisible, Estate Heaven above the Heavens, Kingdom Heaven, Savior;
Almighty…CHRIST, KING, Government, Supreme Power, Light;
Father and Son and Power…
One Lord God Almighty.
Glory to God,
Taken
Of course he did:
- To the Samaritan woman: In John 4:25–26, when she stated, "I know that Messiah is coming," Jesus replied, "I who speak to you am he."
- At His trial: When the high priest asked, "Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?", Jesus answered, "I am" (Mark 14:62) or "You have said so" (Matthew 26:64), affirming His identity under oath.
- After Peter's confession: In Matthew 16:16, when Peter declared, "You are the Christ [Messiah]," Jesus confirmed this revelation, stating it was given by His Father in heaven.
- In the synagogue: In Luke 4:21, after reading Isaiah 61, Jesus declared, "Today this Scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing," a statement the crowd understood as a Messianic claim.
David Lamb
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Definitely! Remember that "Christ" is the Greek translation of the Hebrew "Messiah." At His trial before the high priest, we have this interchange between Jesus and the high priest:
(Mar 14:61) But He kept silent and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked Him, saying to Him, "Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?"
(Mar 14:62) Jesus said, "I am. And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven."
John 5:21
21 For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will.
21 For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will.
soberxp
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Unambiguous Affirmation at His Trial: When the High Priest asked him directly under oath, "Tell us if you are the Messiah, the Son of God," Jesus replied, "You have said so" (Matthew 26:63-64), which the court understood as an outright affirmation.
Agree.
But Jesus did not announce (say) that He was the Messiah.
Only affirmed. Although in a non-affirming way. "You have said so"
soberxp
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Perhaps even if Jesus acknowledged it, most people would still not recognize his identity, just like the majority of today's Israeli Jews.
This is the closest example I have seen.
In Luke 4:21, after reading Isaiah 61, Jesus declared, "Today this Scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing," a statement the crowd understood as a Messianic claim.
Then they tried to throw Him of a cliff.
soberxp
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Poor descendants of Israel! They always want to rely on their own will and search for the Ω Messiah according to their own desires.
I seem to recall that there was no consensus on their part about what Messiah would look like.
Savior or warrior?
soberxp
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matthew 22:21
They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Jesus has already pointed out the way they need to be redeemed.
All they need to do is pay taxes to Caesar, and then live together as a unified entity in a "communist" society in an orderly manner.
The Acts of the Apostles
2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
But unfortunately, history chose the brave ones. They fought against the violence of the Roman Empire with violence, but the outcome was only death - no redemption, no messiah.only warriors ......
David Lamb
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Surely Jesus was not telling His hearers (or us) that they could be redeemed by paying taxes to Caesar and living in a communist society. He was specifically answering a question posed to Him by the Pharisees:
(Mat 22:17) "Tell us, therefore, what do You think? Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not?"
They weren't asking Him how to be redeemed. His answer:
(Mat 22:19) Show Me the tax money." So they brought Him a denarius.
(Mat 22:20) And He said to them, "Whose image and inscription is this?"
(Mat 22:21) They said to Him, "Caesar's." And He said to them, "Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's."
Nothing about communistic societies, nothing about redemption.
soberxp
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communistic
The Acts of the Apostles
2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
The Jews have chosen their own path. What has happened in history cannot be changed. What needs to be changed is the present.
You merely saw the word "communism" and didn't take the time to carefully read and understand what I was trying to convey.
You are such a paranoid.
David Lamb
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I don't think I was being paranoid, nor was my main point to do with the use of the word "communism". The point I was making was to answer your statement that all the Jews had to do to be redeemed was to pay taxes to Caesar and have all things in common. I was pointing out that Jesus was answering a question from the Pharisees about paying Roman taxes, not telling them how to be redeemed. Apologies if my post was unclear.
soberxp
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You still don't understand what I mean.
"Money makes the devil turn the millstone.
Only love can bring redemption to people."
Or more idiomatically:
"Money makes the world go round,
but only love can save a soul."
Should we think about the wonderful things in the Kingdom of Heaven when we during hard times?
Hebrews 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the...
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soberxp
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Of course, it wasn't something that Jesus himself claimed. It was the Bible's prophecy and God's declaration that he was the savior and Messiah.
Jesus kept it hidden for a time, that He was the messiah he first told the 12 but yes he did confirm many times. Also we have to remember the prophecies that he fulfilled and all the witnesses, these alone proclaim he was the messiah. and they spoke loudly.
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