Of what value is retribution against humankind to God? - Love your enemies?

[MatthewG]

If you mean the wrath of God handed down to Gods people (The Twelve Tribes) by the hand of the Romas in my opinion showed that God wasnt messing around with them..

He gave them time to even repent while destruction consumed around them....


Im so happy that God loves the world, thats why he sent Jesus to save it....


I have no problem with God taking out his own people... I mean who could ever argue with that.

 

[Brakelite]

My God, Jesus, certainly is!

So where is the justice in any continuing punishment that doesn't end? A continuing punishing means that justice is never actually met. However, if we were to actually believe what the Bible says, that the wages of sin is death, real death where the sinner actually ceases all life, then true justice is found. Justice met where the sinner, who refuses the offer of eternal life, forfeits all life.

 

[Brakelite]

Apply that to humankind for a total reset.

Can't be done. God imposes His will on no-one. Forsaking sin is a choice. Repentance is a choice. Worshipping the true God in Spirit and Truth is a choice. Receiving the gift of salvation, and being sanctified by the truth of the gospel and God's word, is a choice. The eternal future security of the kingdom of God is at stake. No-one can ever be permitted there who doesn't voluntarily want to be there and was willing to forsake all to be there. Again, we are talking about the character of God here. Love means permitting sinners to receive that which they have chosen. They choose death and not life. That's what they will get.

 

[St. SteVen]

Our souls are either compatible with darkness or compatible with light.

We determine our eternal afterlife destination and design it by our acts in this life.

We either get born again and live in obedience to God … or we reject salvation and delight in sin.

Live in darkness now, live in darkness forever.

Live in light now, live in light forever.

Countless billions have gone to the afterlife with no knowledge of Jesus.
The unreached people groups are still going there.

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[St. SteVen]

Can't be done. God imposes His will on no-one.

I don't think that is true. Though it is a popular come-back.

The view of the "Gentleman God" who honors human will above His own.

"The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward [a]us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance." - 2 Peter 3:9 NKJV In regards to "free-will", I have often heard the argument that God, being the gentleman...

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Question: Is the will of God subordinate to the will of humankind?

Interesting that those who claim that God is a gentleman, also believe that
He will incinerate those who do not receive the free gift of salvation. What is gentle about that?

To be clear, I still believe that every knee will bow and every tongue acknowledge that Christ is Lord.
But those who believe in the "Gentleman God" claim the confession is forced. What is gentle about that?

We pray for God's will to be done and then claim that He won't
impose His will on anyone. Does that make sense?

 

[Jack]

So where is the justice in any continuing punishment that doesn't end? A continuing punishing means that justice is never actually met. However, if we were to actually believe what the Bible says, that the wages of sin is death, real death where the sinner actually ceases all life, then true justice is found. Justice met where the sinner, who refuses the offer of eternal life, forfeits all life.

He warned us several times. That's JUSTICE!

 

[Brakelite]

He warned us several times. That's JUSTICE!

Not God's brand of justice... yours. You are the one who seems to delight in your belief that God is painted by so many as a tyrant of far greater evil than any despot who ruled on the earth. Such a gross, disgusting thoughtless blasphemous mischaracterisation. Satan also would delight in your hyper tyrannical view of God.

 

[Jack]

Not God's brand of justice... yours. You are the one who seems to delight in your belief that God is painted by so many as a tyrant of far greater evil than any despot who ruled on the earth. Such a gross, disgusting thoughtless blasphemous mischaracterisation. Satan also would delight in your hyper tyrannical view of God.

So you're saying that one of the MAIN doctrines in the Bible is 'gross, disgusting, and blasphemous'. Remember you said that. God will on Judgment Day!

You will learn!

Psalm 111:10
10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom;

He warned us several times. That's JUSTICE!

 

[Brakelite]

So you're saying that one of the MAIN doctrines in the Bible is 'gross, disgusting, and blasphemous'. Remember you said that. God will on Judgment Day!

You will learn!

Psalm 111:10
10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom;

He warned us several times. That's JUSTICE!

I am saying that one of the main false doctrines of Mystery Babylon the Great is gross, disgusting, and blasphemous. Does it bother you that you share that doctrine with the Mother of Harlots? Did you know that she was the one who invented it? And no, she didn't put it in the Bible, she simply taught the world how to misconstrue a few texts and almost everyone believes her.

 

[Jack]

I am saying that one of the main false doctrines of Mystery Babylon the Great is gross, disgusting, and blasphemous.

What doctrine would that be? Quote it.

Does it bother you that you share that doctrine with the Mother of Harlots? Did you know that she was the one who invented it?

It doesn't bother me at all to defend the Christian Bible! Do you fear God?

Ecclesiastes 12:13
13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

 

[Brakelite]

What doctrine would that be? Quote it.

It doesn't bother me at all to defend the Christian Bible! Do you fear God?

Ecclesiastes 12:13
13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

If I thought the God I believed in was capable of torturing members of His most precious beloved creation, then yes, I would be afraid. Very afraid.
But praise God, the Good I brief on, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ isn't a God to be afraid of. He can be trusted. Lived. Worshipped from a great heart of love, not a heart of fear.

 

[Jack]

If I thought the God I believed in was capable of torturing members of His most precious beloved creation, then yes, I would be afraid. Very afraid.

So, if God of the Bible Who drowned everyone on Earth but 8, isn't your God, then who is your God?

But praise God, the Good I brief on,

The Good you brief on???

the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ isn't a God to be afraid of.

You just rejected God of the Bible!

He can be trusted. Lived. Worshipped from a great heart of love, not a heart of fear.

And He created the EVERLASTING Hell Fire! Jesus said so. Have you never read the Bible?

 

[Jack]

If I thought the God I believed in was capable of torturing members of His most precious beloved creation, then yes, I would be afraid. Very afraid.
But praise God, the Good I brief on, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ isn't a God to be afraid of. He can be trusted. Lived. Worshipped from a great heart of love, not a heart of fear.

From the CYB Statement of Faith: Eternal separation from God occurs in hell.