rebuilder 454
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You being out in left field and forbidding scripture will not go well for you at all.
You have zero idea what you are talking about.
Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders
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You have zero idea what you are talking about.
amigo de christo
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It aint me sitting under ecumeincal interfaith interreligious dialgoue , its finding common ground , its peace message .
I can only say I SURE HOPE YOU AINT EITHER . so on that note
IF anyone supports the liberal progressive , and yes T RUMP vance and the nar realm , YOU BETTER GET OUT NOW
before the LIE cometh upon thee . THEY lead you all RIGHT to the snare and peace of anti christ . That be a fact friend .
Spiritual Israelite
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They waste time arguing over how many animals were brought onto the ark as if that is relevant to discussions about end times prophecy. That's the kind of people we're dealing with here. Babes in Christ who can only sip on milk and are not able to eat solid food.
No chance of that.
rebuilder 454
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The ot Jews are the OLD COVENANT.
THE WIFE GONE AWHORING.
THEY ARE COVENANT.
That is just a fact
A covenant bride / wife.
You really think the bride of Christ is not illustrated in the earthly family????
THE BIBLE SAYS IT IS.
The earthly family is a type of heavenly dimensions.
FATHER
SON
WIFE
BRIDE
CHILDREN
PRODUGAL.
EVEN SHEEP IS USED describing believers.
God betrothed to israel, and takes Israel as his wife
Ezekiel 16.
8 Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord God, and thou becamest mine.
9 Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil.
10 I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers' skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk.
11 I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck.
12 And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head.
13 Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom.
14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord God.
15 But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.
16 And of thy garments thou didst take, and deckedst thy high places with divers colours, and playedst the harlot thereupon: the like things shall not come, neither shall it be so.
17 Thou hast also taken thy fair jewels of my gold and of my silver, which I had given thee, and madest to thyself images of men, and didst commit whoredom with them
Gomer in Hosea is depicted as ISRAEL purchased BY GOD AS A WIFE.
Your depictions are way way off.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
rebuilder 454
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Do you use electricity?
Then you are under the evil system and better run to the wilderness.
You are paranoid of your shadow.
Paranoia ain't from God.
amigo de christo
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That was a real long explanation you brought .
BUT just so you know , ANY JEW that rejects JESUS as CHRIST
EVEN JESUS SAID YE ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL . SO wife or no wife THEY GOING DOWN ON JESUS DAY bud ,
IF , IF they beleive NOT JESUS IS THE CHRIST . I see you been indoctrinated a bit .
However you can clear this up by admitting the simple truth .
ANY JEW and ANY GENTILE that denies JESUS IS THE CHRIST , THEY ARE OF THE DEVIL .
IN fact the only way for a jew or a gentile to be freed from the power of satan and darkness
IS by FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST . try reading the bible .
Go ahead . call me a liar . SAY out loud i am a liar and its okay IF a jew beleives not on JESUS . BUT
IF you do , YOU JUST CALLED not me a liar , BUT JESUS HIMSELF ONE . so on better thought
YOU BETTER NOT say i LIE about that .
amigo de christo
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What a lost mindset my friend . What on earth does electricty have to do
WITH BELEIVING ON JESUS or anything else i wrote .
You running out of gas my friend . YOU are running out of steam .
NOW bring JESUS WORDS and prove what i say is a lie .
YE are of your father THE DEVIL . WHO DID JESUS SAY THIS T OO .
AND what were they saying to JESUS . THEY said WE HAVE ONE GOD .
JESUS said your father Is the devil . Go on now
BRING ME some of JESUS words . Sorry bud but the flesh profits NOTHING . NO . NOTHING .
THE JEW and the GENTILE MUST absolutely BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST to be saved .
AND those jews and gentiles who hear not JESUS
WELL they KNOW NOT or HEAR NOT GOD . AS JESUS HIMSELF would say to THE JEWS .
SO go on , pump some more dispensationislm or whatever other ism you try and to justify.
THE PLAIN words oF JESUS will SILENCE ANY LIE of men .
Spiritual Israelite
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You take offense and whine like a little baby when someone makes fun of your nonsense, but look at how you talk to others. You can give it out, but can't take it. Such a hypocrite.
amigo de christo
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You have to be kidding me . THOUGH this should not suprise me .
ARE you actually tellling me that someone here is using the number of animals brought into the ark TO DISCUSS end time prophecy .
I though i heard it all . GUESS NOT .
This is madness my friend . What will they pull out of their ...............................HAT , next . and b elieve you me
HAT is the word I must use in this case . I never seen anything like this generation .
amigo de christo
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People will beleive just about anything so long as it supports what they desire to beleive . darn sure AINT TRUTH
for most . Just keep on pointing to Christ and all sound biblical doctrine . The CHRIST
and later apostels sure did warn us about how many would be given to fables specially near the end .
Fable upon fable is what i now o ften see being taught within a lot of even christendom .
Spiritual Israelite
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Yes. Just look above at the discussion rebuilder 454 is having with Taken and you can see that. They are trying to tie that into Jesus talking about the days before His coming being like the days of Noah before the flood came or something along those lines and trying to determine how many animals were brought on the ark and how long that took. As if that had anything to do with what Jesus was saying in relation to the days of Noah and the days before His coming leading up to His second coming. They are the kind of childish people that waste their time on this forum with that kind of nonsense instead of using coherent arguments to back up sound doctrine.
amigo de christo
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These are the last days my friend so nothing should surpise . though sometimes it can if caught off guard .
Very sad days these are my friend to watch what has become christendom .
The 7th seal is silence. Hello!
Revelation is full of recaps. Compare them. They all end at the second coming. These are all different camera views of the same game.
Spiritual Israelite
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Exactly. People don't even think carefully about why there is silence in heaven at the 7th seal. The reason is that no one is there because Jesus, His angels and the souls of the dead in Christ will have descended from heaven at that point. He will return at the last trumpet, which is the seventh trumpet, and that is parallel to the 7th seal.
The Light
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Yeah right. Pay no attention to the 7 trumpets and 7 vials in the wrath of God. They are behind the curtain and don't count.
That's a big load for sure.
Pray tell, when do those imaginary trumpets and vials occur............or do we pretend that they are not really there?
Spiritual Israelite
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Why are you so childish? Do you plan to ever grow up? Just because someone sees recapitulations in the book of Revelation and sees the seals, trumpets and vials as being parallel to each other doesn't mean they are ignoring the trumpets and vials. You are like the babes in Christ who Paul rebuked in 1 Corinthians 3. You are still sipping spiritual milk when you should be taking in solid food by now.
Taken
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These are recaps of the intra-Advent age.
Read what I write instead of what you have been taught.
rebuilder 454
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The Light
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I would not have the faith needed to believe that God changed His pattern specifically for the 7th seal. As each seal is opened John SAW or BEHELD what happened.
For instance, look at a few of the seals. You can check every single seal. The pattern is the same
Revelation 6
And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
Revelation 6
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
Revelation 6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
Now look at the 7th seal. The pattern is the same. The seal is opened and John saw the event that was to happen.
Revelation 8
1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.
5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.
6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.
Why do you think that God changed His pattern and when seventh seal is opened what John saw is irrelevant to the seal that is opened, according to your belief? That does not seem logical, likely, practical, or sensible to me. What am I missing?
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