Some will die today and be cast forever into the Lake of Fire

[amigo de christo]

Im calling people who continue to not believe in Jesus and his victory; confused and dont understand that Jesus got rid of hell...

I could ask you the same thing concering a question like - Do you not believe what the bible says?

But that would just be stupid to argue right?

Not quite mathew . halt the horse . stop the false love train .
IT IS TRUE that JESUS conquered HE who had the keys of death .
But this same JESUS spoke of the lake of fire in revelation , AFTER HE had ascended back up to heaven .
OH IT STILL EXISTS . AND ALL unbelievers the abominable , those who made and loved a lie
Gonna see it . IF they repent not of course . cause we were all once liars , abominable , making and loving lies and etc .
SO halt this horse friend . RATHER PREACH JESUS. HE , I KNOW SAVES , false hope dont save .
and trying to omit the lake of fire wont save either . IN fact
allow me to remind you of something .
HE who adds too or takes from that book , WHICH CLEARLY talked about the lake of f ire and jus who goes there ,
WELL lets just say they gonna see it first hand . case closed . WE cannot add to or take from to recreate
a love god made in the image of man and his thoughts of what love is . JUST speak TRUTH .

 

[MatthewG]

Not quite mathew . halt the horse . stop the false love train .
IT IS TRUE that JESUS conquered HE who had the keys of death .
But this same JESUS spoke of the lake of fire in revelation , AFTER HE had ascended back up to heaven .
OH IT STILL EXISTS . AND ALL unbelievers the abominable , those who made and loved a lie
Gonna see it . IF they repent not of course . cause we were all once liars , abominable , making and loving lies and etc .
SO halt this horse friend . RATHER PREACH JESUS. HE , I KNOW SAVES , false hope dont save .
and trying to omit the lake of fire wont save either . IN fact
allow me to remind you of something .
HE who adds too or takes from that book , WHICH CLEARLY talked about the lake of f ire and jus who goes there ,
WELL lets just say they gonna see it first hand . case closed . WE cannot add to or take from to recreate
a love god made in the image of man and his thoughts of what love is . JUST speak TRUTH .

What is love?

Correction?

Rhetorical remark: Oh you need to believe Jesus is still coming? Otherwise you are a heretic.

I guess I am a heretic with such a highly divise opinion.

However, it's a true thing that people believe happened.

Regardless if you believe it or not.


What is your point?

Cause honestly I don't see anything of value within your chat with me.

You should just leave me alone cause actively pursuing me isn't love either.

 

[amigo de christo]

What is love?

Correction?

Oh you need to believe Jesus is still coming?


What is your point?

Cause honestly I don't see anything of value within your chat with me.

Thanks for the question . You my friend just asked a real good question .
What IS love . Well it sure aint what the world thinks is love .
GOD is love . but never forget that satan can say what i jus said , HE too can say GOD IS LOVE
but his love is gonna deny words GOD said . HIS love is going to allow sins upon people under the banner of a judge not .
cause his love IS HATE . OH yeah . DID you know this .
DID you know that .
My point is you had better watch out what you say . Cause you are adding too and taking from things
in revelation .
SO what is love . and What does love REJOICE IN , and what does it not rejoice in ........
WELL
LOVE REJOICES IN THE TRUTH , NOT IN INQUITY . so anyones love that accepts any sins , OOPSY it aint the love of GOD .
In fact anyones love that hollers judge not to those who do correct their neighbor who is in sin
IS NOT love at all . IT IS hate .
FOR it is written YE shall not hate your neighbor , YOU SHALL CORRECT HIM and NOT ALLOW SIN UPON HIM .
And the worst of it all is THEY NOW ALLOW EVEN UNBELIEF upon the false religoins
and holler we all serve the same GOD . things have been bad mathew for a lon gtime .
and from bad it has went to worse and now its went wild with madness and wild with love for a god
who came in his own name and preached his own religoin of inclusivity .
SEEMS many love that god these days . And seeing i desire only GOOD for you ,,
and knowing what i already do know , I am trying to only HELP YOU SEE things clearer .

 

[MatthewG]

Well if Correction is Love.


God can do that much more better than a human being.

So why do I continue to believe his son came and did what was promised

and dont feel guilty for it.


Thank you so much.

Lake of fire still seems to be something in the Kingdom of Heaven but not... hell.

And who is said to be in the midst of the lake of fire? Jesus.



So what is your equation of that level of thought?

Is it good or a bad thing?

I think its a good thing perhaps people can come to God even in the afterlife

I have a greater hope that heaven is gonna be filled with many people ---

outside the gates of heaven as the bible states and going inside the gates of heaven.


but hey -- those things deal with my own faith in Jesus who came, died, rose again and even came back to those he promised --- not anyone elses.

 

[amigo de christo]

Well if Correction is Love.


God can do that much more better than a human being.

So why do I continue to believe his son came and did what was promised

and dont feel guilty for it.


Thank you so much.

Lake of fire still seems to be something in the Kingdom of Heaven but not... hell.

And who is said to be in the midst of the lake of fire? Jesus.



So what is your equation of that level of thought?

Is it good or a bad thing?

I think its a good thing perhaps people can come to God even in the afterlife




but hey -- those things deal with my own faith --- not anyone elses.

And just WHO do you think works through the body of believers TO CORRECT SIN . yeah GOD DOES mathew .
Everyone is so fast to agree that GOD works throughout the body of believers
UNTIL , yes , UNTIL one comes correcting by THE SPIRIT . THEN all of a sudden we get what you wrote .
I already KNOW GOD knows how to correct mathew . And that HE DOES know far better than me or you .
BUT i also know ITS HIM UNCTIONING me TO CORRECT those in error . JUST like he always has done with his own .
So you just be encouraged and lets all get back into the bible again . Lets be refreshed in and by the Truth
and those lovely reminders .

 

[MatthewG]

And just WHO do you think works through the body of believers TO CORRECT SIN . yeah GOD DOES mathew .
Everyone is so fast to agree that GOD works throughout the body of believers
UNTIL , yes , UNTIL one comes correcting by THE SPIRIT . THEN all of a sudden we get what you wrote .
I already KNOW GOD knows how to correct mathew . And that HE DOES know far better than me or you .
BUT i also know ITS HIM UNCTIONING me TO CORRECT those in error . JUST like he always has done with his own .
So you just be encouraged and lets all get back into the bible again . Lets be refreshed in and by the Truth
and those lovely reminders .

Is me saying that Jesus came back and overcame sin, death, hell, and satan?

Not truth? -- All I can say is just cause I believe that and people can try to say not true and correct me.

Why do people care so much that when it is said, it relatively breaks them apart?

I've heard it said in the bible God can shake peoples faith down to nothing that can stand remains.

Something like that - the only thing that remains when everything is shaken down is faith.

 

[Marvelloustime]

Not quite mathew . halt the horse . stop the false love train .
IT IS TRUE that JESUS conquered HE who had the keys of death .
But this same JESUS spoke of the lake of fire in revelation , AFTER HE had ascended back up to heaven .
OH IT STILL EXISTS . AND ALL unbelievers the abominable , those who made and loved a lie
Gonna see it . IF they repent not of course . cause we were all once liars , abominable , making and loving lies and etc .
SO halt this horse friend . RATHER PREACH JESUS. HE , I KNOW SAVES , false hope dont save .
and trying to omit the lake of fire wont save either . IN fact
allow me to remind you of something .
HE who adds too or takes from that book , WHICH CLEARLY talked about the lake of f ire and jus who goes there ,
WELL lets just say they gonna see it first hand . case closed . WE cannot add to or take from to recreate
a love god made in the image of man and his thoughts of what love is . JUST speak TRUTH .

@amigo de christo

 

[Jack]

Lake of fire still seems to be something in the Kingdom of Heaven but not... hell.

What an imagination!

 

[Jack]

That's fine. I believe it has happened.

Doesn't mean you have to believe it. I am not gonna change my mind.

There are 3 people that told me today they believe he is coming back.

I said that is fine. As long as one is faithful, loving God and loving others it doesn't matter.


Cause if you divide among people cause peoples beliefs and just shun them that no good.

It's up to people what they decide for themselves! Thank you Lord God in Heaven for choice and personal decisions!

There may be hope for you Matt.

Jude 1:22-23
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,

 

[Jack]

That's what many people say but they always skip over hell being done away with in Revelation.

Hell is not "done away with"! It is merged into the Lake of Fire! BILLIONS of LOST humans will wish you are right.

So while God is a consuming fire that can burn away darkness... I believe people in the afterlife have a choice to go into this fire.

What you believe ain't Bible!

There are people who die today, and are on the outside of the Heavenly Kingdom, and those also whom were faithful and are going inside to be with God.

Over all. I think the lake of fire is a good thing.

Oh do you? No surprise whatsoever!

Rev 21 They will be tormented day and night FOREVER ...

I dont think you will be fully fleshed and on fire.... that is a little to much.

Luke 16:22-28 The rich man died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hell, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

 

[Jack]

Im calling people who continue to not believe in Jesus and his victory; confused and dont understand that Jesus got rid of hell...

Are you really trying to lead people to Hell?

I could ask you the same thing concering a question like - Do you not believe what the bible says?

But that would just be stupid to argue right?

 

[Jack]

And they deserve it because they didn't care enough to seek God when they had the chance. But don't assume that you're saved if you're only lukewarm otherwise you too will be cast forever into the Lake of Fire. After perusing this forum it's obvious to me that there are many lukewarm Christians. Repent or be prepared to burn alive forever!

Jesus' doctrine of 'everlasting punishment', 'Hell fire', 'the EVERLASTING fire', 'the Furnace of Fire' and 'the Lake of Fire': The most important doctrine in the NT!

BILLIONS of humans will burn FOREVER who don't believe in Hell!

 

[PeterAndroz]

Jesus' doctrine of 'everlasting punishment', 'Hell fire', 'the EVERLASTING fire', 'the Furnace of Fire' and 'the Lake of Fire': The most important doctrine in the NT!

BILLIONS of humans will burn FOREVER who don't believe in Hell!

I used to think forever too but now am not so sure.
Your thoughts on these 2 verses ?
Rev 20:10 forever & ever for the devil, beast & false prophet
Rev 20:15 forever & ever not mentioned here for the others

 

[Jack]

I used to think forever too but now am not so sure.
Your thoughts on these 2 verses ?
Rev 20:10 forever & ever for the devil, beast & false prophet

The false prophet! Yep.

Rev 20:15 forever & ever not mentioned here for the others

Exact same punishment for humans:
Matthew 25:41
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
Revelation 20:10
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

 

[PeterAndroz]

The false prophet! Yep.

Exact same punishment for humans:
Matthew 25:41
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
Revelation 20:10
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Matt 25:41 yes the everlasting fire where the Rev 20:10 devil, beast, false prophet will be FOREVER tormented
Yet Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. does not mention FOREVER for those not in the book of life
Are there other verses that teach FOREVER for them ?

 

[Jack]

Matt 25:41 yes the everlasting fire where the Rev 20:10 devil, beast, false prophet will be FOREVER tormented
Yet Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. does not mention FOREVER for those not in the book of life
Are there other verses that teach FOREVER for them ?

For humans?

 

[PeterAndroz]

For humans?

Book of life is for humans only.
Excluding, the devil, false prophet, beast & those in Rev 14:11, does Rev 20:15 teach that those not in the book of life are tormented forever and ever ?

 

[Jack]

Book of life is for humans only.
Excluding, the devil, false prophet, beast & those in Rev 14:11, does Rev 20:15 teach that those not in the book of life are tormented forever and ever ?

Why wouldn't it? Jesus called it the EVERLASTING fire. Exact same Greek Word and EVERLASTING life! NEVER ending.

 

[PeterAndroz]

Why wouldn't it? Jesus called it the EVERLASTING fire. Exact same Greek Word and EVERLASTING life! NEVER ending.

Again, YES the fire is EVERLASTING.
Again, I understand that FOREVER & EVER torment applies to Rev 14:11 & Rev 20:10
Yet there is NO mention of FOREVER & EVER in Rev 20:15.
Are there other verses that you are aware of that teach FOREVER & EVER for those in Rev 20:15 ?

 

[Jack]

Again, YES the fire is EVERLASTING.

Why would Jesus warn humans of "the EVERLASTING FIRE"?

Again, I understand that FOREVER & EVER torment applies to Rev 14:11 & Rev 20:10
Yet there is NO mention of FOREVER & EVER in Rev 20:15.
Are there other verses that you are aware of that teach FOREVER & EVER for those in Rev 20:15 ?

Matthew 25:46
46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment (NEVER ENDS), but the righteous into everlasting life (NEVER ENDS).

Everlasting, the exact same Greek word, NEVER ending! You don't believe in everlasting life?