How the Word of God, Born of a Virgin named Jesus became the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY

[MatthewG]

Here is how I have come to understand the relationship between the Father and Jesus as well as Jesus' divine and human natures, @MatthewG and @DavidB. The Bible says that, in the beginning of creation (Genesis 1:1), the divine Person called the Word by John was God and was with God (John 1:1) and also that he will submit to the Father when he has vanquished his enemies (1 Corinthians 15:28).

How can we understand both truths? According to John, the divine first Person and the divine second Person both have the full status of God, but they perform different roles or functions within the Godhead. In the latter sense, the fully-divine Jesus can rise from the dead, defeat his enemies, and then submit to the Father, though they both have equal status as God, which is Paul's word for the Father.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

1Co 15:28 When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.

People can believe how they want to. Thank you for sharing.

If a person is hating another individual just cause they see things in a certain manner, then they are not being a fellow Christian. They are just simply hating other people...

Im guilty of hating other people... God have mercy on me.

I see it as Jesus becoming one again with God, - going back to his former glory with God in the beginning as the Word.

It's not taboo, and its not blaspheming.

It's people who condemn other people that are having issues with it all together and I find it highly silly.



From my own study I see a progression - compared to the simply two placed verses you have shared...

As I shared on my original post. You see the Word of God sent, and then you see Jesus glorified and sitting on the throne with his Father after overcoming all things becoming the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY.

Thanks again, Bruce.

 

[MatthewG]

Thank you for the views.

 

[quietthinker]

I’d like to share my personal perspective, along with a few references that have helped shape my understanding—such as the book of Daniel, the moment when Jesus appeared glorified on the mountain with Moses and Elijah (as witnessed by the disciples), and passages from Revelation, especially chapters 3 and 4.

From what I gather, Jesus is depicted as the one who would share the throne with the Father after overcoming all things. Daniel’s vision appears to describe a figure with eyes like fire, which I interpret as Jesus. Once his mission was complete, I see Jesus as sharing in divine authority and presence with the Father—together unified as the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY.

This unity seems to reflect a culmination or return to oneness, as Jesus is glorified in the events described in Revelation. In my view, there's God, His Word, and His Holy Spirit—and then there's the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, in whom God and Yeshua are fully united.

These are personal thoughts based on my study and reflections. While I don’t personally hold to the traditional understanding of the Trinity, I believe Jesus was God among us, and through glorification, became fully one with God as the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY after triumphing over all.

Luke 12:35-40
“Stay dressed for action and keep your lamps burning, and be like men who are waiting for their master to come home from the wedding feast, so that they may open the door to him at once when he comes and knocks. Blessed are those servants whom the master finds awake when he comes. Truly, I say to you, he will dress himself for service and have them recline at table, and he will come and serve them. If he comes in the second watch, or in the third, and finds them awake, blessed are those servants! But know this, that if the master of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have left his house to be broken into. You also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.”

 

[MatthewG]

Don’t know the reason you share this for?

I’m already ready in faith for the day I do die.

I don’t eagerly await and expect to see the Lord Jesus coming in my life time.

Done met him, thankful for his righteousness and his paying for sin of mankind, and God raising him again.

Thanks for the encouragement I reckon then.

 

[MatthewG]

Thank you to anyone whom ever viewed these things.

 

[MatthewG]

I’d like to share my personal perspective, shaped by several key passages of Scripture—particularly the visions in Daniel, the transfiguration of Jesus with Moses and Elijah witnessed by the disciples, and the scenes of divine glory in Revelation 3–4.

From my understanding, Scripture presents Jesus as the One who ultimately shares the throne with the Father after overcoming all things. Jesus Himself declares, “To the one who overcomes, I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, just as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne” (Revelation 3:21). This imagery reflects a profound unity of authority and glory.

Daniel’s vision also appears to describe this exalted figure. He speaks of One like a Son of Man who comes before the Ancient of Days and receives everlasting dominion (Daniel 7:13–14). Later descriptions—such as the figure with eyes like flaming fire (Daniel 10:6)—parallel the glorified Christ seen by John in Revelation (Revelation 1:14). I understand these passages as pointing to Jesus in His glorified state.

Once His earthly mission was complete, I see Jesus as entering into the fullness of divine authority and presence with the Father—together revealed as the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY (Revelation 4:8). This unity reflects what Jesus prayed for: “Father, glorify Me in Your own presence with the glory I had with You before the world existed” (John 17:5).

In my view, Scripture presents God, His Word, and His Spirit—and then reveals the culmination of this unity in the glorified identity of the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, where the Father and Yeshua are fully united in authority and glory.

These reflections represent my personal understanding based on study and contemplation. While I do not personally hold to the traditional formulation of the Trinity, I believe Jesus was truly God among us (John 1:14), and through His glorification and triumph, He became fully one with God in the identity revealed as the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY.

 

[Bruce-Leiter]

People can believe how they want to. Thank you for sharing.

If a person is hating another individual just cause they see things in a certain manner, then they are not being a fellow Christian. They are just simply hating other people...

Im guilty of hating other people... God have mercy on me.

I see it as Jesus becoming one again with God, - going back to his former glory with God in the beginning as the Word.

It's not taboo, and its not blaspheming.

It's people who condemn other people that are having issues with it all together and I find it highly silly.



From my own study I see a progression - compared to the simply two placed verses you have shared...

As I shared on my original post. You see the Word of God sent, and then you see Jesus glorified and sitting on the throne with his Father after overcoming all things becoming the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY.

Thanks again, Bruce.

Yes, I agree, @MatthewG, that we need to exchange views without anger that tries to control people. It's interesting to me that you say that Jesus becomes the Lord God Almighty again with his ascension into heaven, is that right? If so, my question is, who or what was Jesus while he was on earth, in your opinion, and what Bible verses do you base that thought on?

I base my conclusion most definitely that he was always God with the Father and the Spirit on the Gospel of John, all of which I could quote here, but it might be a little too long for a post.

 

[MatthewG]

Yes, I agree, @MatthewG, that we need to exchange views without anger that tries to control people. It's interesting to me that you say that Jesus becomes the Lord God Almighty again with his ascension into heaven, is that right? If so, my question is, who or what was Jesus while he was on earth, in your opinion, and what Bible verses do you base that thought on?

I base my conclusion most definitely that he was always God with the Father and the Spirit on the Gospel of John, all of which I could quote here, but it might be a little too long for a post.

I appreciate your question, and I think this is where our perspectives differ just a little—not in who Jesus is, but in how we describe His identity during His earthly life.

When I say Jesus “became the Lord God Almighty again” after His ascension, I’m not saying He stopped being divine on earth. My view is that Jesus was the Word of God (John 1:1) made flesh (John 1:14). The Word is the inner expression of God—His heart, His intention, His mind spoken outwardly.

Just like my own words can reveal my character—sometimes gentle, sometimes sharp—God’s Word reveals His heart perfectly. That’s why Hebrews says, “The Word of God is living and active… discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart” (Hebrews 4:12).

So when God sent His Word through Mary, that Word took on flesh and was given the name Yeshua / Jesus. That’s who I believe Jesus was on earth: God’s Word, fully expressing God’s heart, walking among us in human form.

This is why Jesus can say things like:

• “The words I speak are not My own” (John 14:10)
• “I came down from heaven” (John 6:38)
• “Before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58)

To me, these statements make sense because the Word was with God and was God (John 1:1), and that Word entered the world as a man.

So the difference between us might be small: You emphasize that Jesus was always God in the same way as the Father and Spirit. I emphasize that Jesus was always the Word of God, which is God’s own self-expression, and that the fullness of divine glory was restored to Him after He completed His mission (John 17:5).

Whether that’s a major difference or a minor one probably depends on how each person understands the relationship between God, His Word, and His Spirit.

 

[Jack]

"How the Word of God, Born of a Virgin named Jesus became the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY"​

God became God? This would be hilarious if it wasn't so Satanic!

 

[Bruce-Leiter]

I appreciate your question, and I think this is where our perspectives differ just a little—not in who Jesus is, but in how we describe His identity during His earthly life.

When I say Jesus “became the Lord God Almighty again” after His ascension, I’m not saying He stopped being divine on earth. My view is that Jesus was the Word of God (John 1:1) made flesh (John 1:14). The Word is the inner expression of God—His heart, His intention, His mind spoken outwardly.

Just like my own words can reveal my character—sometimes gentle, sometimes sharp—God’s Word reveals His heart perfectly. That’s why Hebrews says, “The Word of God is living and active… discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart” (Hebrews 4:12).

So when God sent His Word through Mary, that Word took on flesh and was given the name Yeshua / Jesus. That’s who I believe Jesus was on earth: God’s Word, fully expressing God’s heart, walking among us in human form.

This is why Jesus can say things like:

• “The words I speak are not My own” (John 14:10)
• “I came down from heaven” (John 6:38)
• “Before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58)

To me, these statements make sense because the Word was with God and was God (John 1:1), and that Word entered the world as a man.

So the difference between us might be small: You emphasize that Jesus was always God in the same way as the Father and Spirit. I emphasize that Jesus was always the Word of God, which is God’s own self-expression, and that the fullness of divine glory was restored to Him after He completed His mission (John 17:5).

Whether that’s a major difference or a minor one probably depends on how each person understands the relationship between God, His Word, and His Spirit.

Yeah, @MatthewG, it seems that we don't differ very much at all. May the Triune God bless you abundantly in your walk with him!

 

[MatthewG]

Ah I don’t understand that.

Yahavah bless you.

 

[Bruce-Leiter]

Ah I don’t understand that.

Yahavah bless you.

What don't you understand, @MatthewG?

 

[Jack]

Ah I don’t understand that.

Yahavah bless you.

Where do you find Yahavah in the Bible Matt?

Don't have a clue?

 

[MatthewG]

Just be respectful to people.

It’s not hard.

 

[Jack]

Just be respectful to people.

It’s not hard.

IOW you just make up your own bible and god to please YOU. When you meet Jesus, God of the Bible you'll see that I've been very respectful compared to Him. He doesn't like people butchering His Word the Bible.

Hebrews 10:31
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

 

[MatthewG]

Thank you to anyone who response.

There are people on ignore I no longer respond to:

No matter how much the desire my attention.