How Confidant Are You Being Saved?

[amigo de christo]

This is a question I hate. Advocates say you should be 100% confidant but that doesn't seem humble to me.

How confidant are you? What does that say about your humility?

I AM FULLY CONFIDENT that JESUS DID ALL THAT WAS NECESSARY FOR ME TO BE SAVED .
Hows that for an answer .

 

[amigo de christo]

You have yet to show me where I erred

Is your salvation dependent on how Good you are. or how much you obey? or how less sin you commit. Or your ability to stay in the faith.

Or is it in God?

My salvation is SECURE IN CHRIST .
cant say the same for those who follow another jesus that seems to allow sins and now even unbelief upon this people .
That one didnt go to no cross , it is a liar . NOT JESUS .
Do you know of anyone who follows this other jesus . namely the all inclusive ecmumeincal interfaith one .
IF SO , Warn them and do so quickly .
CAUSE that jesus and its love sure has trod under foot the words and gospel OF THE ONE TRUE JESUS .

 

[faithhopecharity]

Read your posts..

the initial grace is a free gift of God we cannot earn it or any grace

thks

 

[amigo de christo]

the initial grace is a free gift of God we cannot earn it or any grace

thks

post one hundred and forty two awaits an answer . Do be encouraged now .

 

[faithhopecharity]

I do understand it

My hope is in the finished work of Christ on the cross. for eternal life

My hope is in Christs continued work in me to grow me and complete the work he started in me

Your hope from what I read is in your ability or your actions.. unless you can show me where you hope in christ and his work alone..

"It is finished" Jn 19:30 means the finished work of Christ? wow!

 

[faithhopecharity]

yes..

and who practices righteousness?

1 John 3: 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

And who does not practice righteousness?

1 John 3:
6 Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.

7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.


so the thing that seperates the 2 is one group was born again, One was not..

grace os required of course as is works as these verses say

do think a born again graced christian cannot sin?

thks

 

[Wrangler]

What sin does Jesus sacrifice not cover?

I already showed you the verse in Hebrews 10:26.

if his death does not cover a sin, there is no hope of forgiveness.

Imagine a theology where both is true: there is a sin that no sacrifice covers AND there is hope in forgiveness and salvation.

And that my friend, brings us to the OP. We have hope and faith, which is living with grace despite lacking certain knowledge.

 

[Wrangler]

T

do think a born again graced christian cannot sin?

his question reveals their circular reasoning.
If you sin, then you were never saved or born again to begin with.

 

[amigo de christo]

grace os required of course as is works as these verses say

do think a born again graced christian cannot sin?

thks

The fat lady aint sung yet . let none tone down the deadly dangers of sin which so easily will and can harden the heart .
Nor let one be of the mindset of the wrong intepretation of romans seven .
FOR many have interpreted it into a lie . A lie that clearly says If even a christain do commit murder
or adultery , ITS NOT really the one sinning . TALK about a delusion on that one .
Paul was not saying if we sin its not really us sinning .
HE is talking about THE FLESH , when the flesh pops a contrary sinf ul thought into our heads
its not us that sins but the flesh . bUT if one heeds that t hought and acts it out , OH YEAH they sin .
ALL sin , all error must be corrected and fast .

 

[faithhopecharity]

Eternal - forever, everlasting, Never ending.
Life - As apposed to death. Living, united with Christ. no longer dead

a person who is born again based on faith in christ will as jesus said, never perish, but will live forever.

I agree after death and a favorable judgment!

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men onceto die, but after this the judgment:

now we have union by grace that we can lose!

2 Corinthians 4:7
But we have this treasure in earthenvessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

grace can be lost by deadly sin

Eph 5:2-6
gal 5:1-4
gal 5:19-21
gal 6:7-8
1 cor 6:9-10 & 15-20
2 cor 4:7
1 tim 5:12
rev 21:8
rev 21:27
rom 8:1
can lose grace gal 5:4
can have grace in vain 1 cor 15:10
treasure in earthen vessels 2 cor 4:7
1 Jn 3:15 no life (grace)

Jn 10:10 life and life more abundantly

do you have eternal life and eternal life more abundantly? grace

thks

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I already showed you the verse in Hebrews 10:26.

Imagine a theology where both is true: there is a sin that no sacrifice covers AND there is hope in forgiveness and salvation.

And that my friend, brings us to the OP. We have hope and faith, which is living with grace despite lacking certain knowledge.

Again, I do not see any hope in christ in your posts. I see hope in yourself.

Heb 10 is in context of the law. and those returning to it..

By the law sin bring an expectation of judgment

26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.

Are you saying you sin on accident? Your sins are oopsies?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

T

his question reveals their circular reasoning.
If you sin, then you were never saved or born again to begin with.

who says this? I have never met anyone who says this

Since this person was responding to me. I suggest you take back your silly accusation.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

grace os required of course as is works as these verses say

do think a born again graced christian cannot sin?

thks

Who ever made this statment, If we say we have no sin we decieve ourselves..

Are you under law or Grace.

thats the question.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I agree after death and a favorable judgment!

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men onceto die, but after this the judgment:

now we have union by grace that we can lose!

2 Corinthians 4:7
But we have this treasure in earthenvessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

grace can be lost by deadly sin

Eph 5:2-6
gal 5:1-4
gal 5:19-21
gal 6:7-8
1 cor 6:9-10 & 15-20
2 cor 4:7
1 tim 5:12
rev 21:8
rev 21:27
rom 8:1
can lose grace gal 5:4
can have grace in vain 1 cor 15:10
treasure in earthen vessels 2 cor 4:7
1 Jn 3:15 no life (grace)

Jn 10:10 life and life more abundantly

do you have eternal life and eternal life more abundantly? grace

thks

what sin did Christ not die for.. Can you answer?

Becuse that is the only sin that grace will not cover.

 

[faithhopecharity]

to be saved? What does that look like?

Did Jesus pay for your sin. or do you have to pay for your own sin?

you have accepted Christ, you are a new creation, the old things have passed away, there is nothing more you need to do.

no behavior positive or negative can change our status of eternal salvation.

You are saved, you don't need to abide in me Jn 15:1-6 you are always united to me even in sin.

do you believe these statements?