Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

[Marvelloustime]

YES THE LORD surely does look upon the heart and not as man who looketh only upon the outward appearance .
And now a word .
I WANT to remind every man woman and child
THAT when one g oes to SEEK the GREAT HIGH PREIST OF GOD
to remember that GOD looketh upon the inside .
And in the law which would point to CHRIST
it was said , no man with a mole , a spot , a blemish , a drawf could be the High priest and approach the tabernacle .
And so they offered up blood for the sins of the peoples .
BUT many years later , both who and what even the LAW prophets and moses , even abraham had seen
HE WOULD come .
AND HE WAS WITHOUT SPOT OR BLEMISH ON THE INSIDE . something no mere man could ever claim
BUT GOD SURE CAN . JESUS the CHRIST , was not just some prophet
Was not just a good man
WHY my dear friends , THE WORD was not just WITH GOD in the BEGINNING but was GOD .
HE WHO DISHONORS THE SON DOES DISHONOR THE FATHER . and that BE A FACT .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

She must let go the earthern and cling to the heavenly .
That which is of the flesh is flesh
but that which is of the spirit IS SPIRIT .
ALL nations to include the nation of israel on earth ARE ALL IN BONDAGE and in darkness .
IF they will not hear they will not recieve . We are runn ing out of time my f riend .
The greatest hour of the peak of all delusion and darkness
will take them all to a lie to unify . And though it c ries t his is the way to peace , this is the way to at tain world peace n safety
HEED IT NOT . IT HAS DENIED THE VERY PEACE PLAN OF GOD
which is and was TO BLEIEVE ON JESUS so as one can be reconciled to and have peace with GOD .
IT HAS DENIED THE VERY SON , THE VERY CHRIST OF GOD , HIS VERY WORD .
IT be of anti christ and is the mystery of inquity and its intefaith is A LIE .
A LIE to unify and a lie to lead them all to be as one man under one god THEY BLEIVE WILL BE AND IS GOD .
BUT IT be only this one , AND BY PEACE SHALL HE DESTROY MANY .
The delusion grows faster by the day and by the hour . the god of inclusivity IS SATAN
and intefaith is of anti christ and soon all will heed the voice of a god who cliamed to be GOD but was NOT GOD .
HE is a liar and the father of lies . And our betrayer and betrayal will come claoked
as though a kiss of inclusive love from inclusive lips , OUR OWN betrayer came from within CHRISTENDOM
and as judas betrayed CHRIST with a kiss
THEY WILL TRULY believe they follow GOD and HIS LOVE and have kissed the calf and not the SON .
OUR betrayal will come from those who truly bleieve they LOVE GOD and humanity
BUT IT was the wrong god which only allowed their sins and even unbelief TO REMAIN UPON THEM ALL .
IT is a very subtile deciever . BUT THE SHEEP dont bite its false love bait . FOR JESUS has the SHEEP
and it is the sheep WHO HAVE THE LOVE OF GOD . while they have only the love of the world , THEY THINK IS THE LOVE OF GOD .

@amigo de christo

 

[rebuilder 454]

The bride of Christ error has come from the Catholic Church which believes that the Church has replaced Israel. Protestants just continued with that false doctrine.

And speaking of doctrine the Apostle Paul lays out the New Man, (combining both genders) in Eph. 1 - 4 and then goes on to bring exhortations to wives, husbands, children, slaves etc. A doctrine is NOT built upon an example, an exhortation.

Note in Eph. 5: 30 `we are members of His Body, of His flesh and of His bones.`

By casting down the fact that the church is the bride of Christ, you will never understand the purpose of the rapture or end times.

The bible ends with the bride, and heaven, calling out to the groom.
You have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[Marvelloustime]

There once dwelt a king named ahab .
And how he loved to hear f rom his own false prophets
but alas there was a true prophet of GOD
but HOW he hated that one . AND HE told the king of jerusalem so .
THEY WILL NOT love the true ones david . THEY will cling to the messages of the false
and will not know , nor discern , nor is it in them to do so ,
that t hese false propehts who cry THIS IS THE WAY TO PEACE , THIS interfaith is the way to peace
ARE UNDER A LYING SPIRIT and it has been sent to DECIEVE THE PROPHETS who lie and all who sit under them
TO THE DAY OF THEIR OWN SUDDEN DESTRUCTION .
just as they did to king ahab . GO UP , YE SHALL HAVE the VICTORY
and the true prophet had told him , I SAW ISRAEL scattered as one having no shepard .
And was smite across the face by a false one who said FROM WHENCE did the SPIRIT go from ME TO YOU .
AND so i shall answer as did micah . ON THE DAY OF YOUR SUDDEN DESRUCTION YE SHALL KNOW .
YE SHALL KNOW that ecumiencal intefaith was of anti christ and they ye were decieved and had loved a lie .
THOUGH i surely hope many repent before they find out too late .

@amigo de christo

 

[rebuilder 454]

The bride of Christ error has come from the Catholic Church which believes that the Church has replaced Israel. Protestants just continued with that false doctrine.

And speaking of doctrine the Apostle Paul lays out the New Man, (combining both genders) in Eph. 1 - 4 and then goes on to bring exhortations to wives, husbands, children, slaves etc. A doctrine is NOT built upon an example, an exhortation.

Note in Eph. 5: 30 `we are members of His Body, of His flesh and of His bones.`

IOW you are offended by God's word.

 

[Marvelloustime]

And who is a liar , b ut he who d enies that JESUS IS THE VERY CHRIST MESSIAH SON OF GOD .
HE is anti christ .
Again its not too hard to see who and what is behind this ecumeincal intefaith for world peace n safety .
THAT WHICH BE OF ANTI CHRIST of course , THE MYSTERY of INQUITY of course .
But many in the false religoins , and even worse many within even christendom now run
to this ONE LIE by which IT SHALL UNITE ALL THE FALSE RELIGOINS WHO ALREADY LOVED A LIE
and the decieved in chrsitendom that too love a lie and reject the TRUE JESUS and followed some other jesus created of men .
IT BE A TOTAL DELUSION david . A GREAT and MIGHTY HOUR of all out reprobation has been poured
upon a world , upon even much of christendom .
FOR when HE called they did not answer but remain in their lie and WHEN HE SENT
his own sheep TO EVEN WARN the churches , They cast them OUT along with HIS WORDS as hate speech .
The path this world is now on , IS THE FINAL JUDG MENT OF A GREAT DELUSION
sent unto all who rejected the love of the truth and rather had pleasure in unrighteious and held the TRUTH as a lie .
And its gonna take everyone not in the lambs b ook of life right to THAT ONE LIE THAT SHALL SURELY UNIFY .
But it will be unto their own destruction . SO the time is as it has always been
TIME TO POINT TO JESUS , TIME to count that cost , and time to be prepared to lose all FOR HIS NAME SAKE .
some will hear b ut most will reject and many will betray us unto authorites . ITS COMING david
THE GREATEST HOUR of GREAT TRIBULATION is coming and our betrayer and betrayal is at the door .
FEAR IT NOT . fear not he who does not even have power over his own life
FEAR RATHER HE WHO G IVETH LIFE to all and shall surely POUR out HIS WRATH upon ALL WHO DENIED HIS HOLY SON .

@amigo de christo

 

[rebuilder 454]

A bride is female.

We, the BODY, the New Man, are neither male nor female, but have both characteristics, but not the sexual parts which are only for earth.

You keep referring to an exhortation as the basis of your doctrine.

First mention - `Then I. ohn, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared AS a bride adorned for her husband.....having the glory of God. `(Rev. 21: 2 & 11)

Only the Old Testament Saints were promised the city. (Heb. 11: 16 `But now they desire a better, that is, a heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for THEM.`

This is horizontal thinking.
Not a basis for understanding spiritual truths.
Of all the concepts in the bible to cast down, you have to pick the heartbeat of heaven.

You need to seriously investigate the bride of Christ.
Your position is flat out bizarre.

 

[David in NJ]

Ok.
Who, in Jesus's "before the flood Noah analogy" is swept away before the trib?

Remember you have omitted the "before the flood" component, and the "half taken" components.
Instead, you are telling me that before the flood, ( pretrib), the entire world dies.

SIMPLE TRUTH = Just follow the words of the LORD Jesus Christ

“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only.
But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until,

until what??? = until the day that Noah entered the ark,

"they" did NOT enter the Ark

"and did not know" = Who does JESUS Say "did not know" ???

Noah KNEW what was Coming = Genesis 6:13
And God said to Noah, “The end of all flesh has come before Me, for the earth is filled with violence through them; and behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

"until the flood came and took them all away,"

Now you can KNOW, unless you harden your heart

 

[rebuilder 454]

The OT Declares only TWO Comings/Appearings of the LORD

The GOSPEL only Declares TWO Comings/Appearings of the LORD

The NT Apostles only Declare TWO Comings/Appearings of the LORD

Get it wrong and you've been STRUCK-OUT THREE Times

Rev 14 and Rev 19.
Either the bible or you is lying.

Can you actually read ?

The one coming myth is a lie a baby in Christ can see through.
Waste of thought to debate something that obvious..
Your deal is making a fool out of you.

 

[rebuilder 454]

The bride of Christ error has come from the Catholic Church which believes that the Church has replaced Israel. Protestants just continued with that false doctrine.

And speaking of doctrine the Apostle Paul lays out the New Man, (combining both genders) in Eph. 1 - 4 and then goes on to bring exhortations to wives, husbands, children, slaves etc. A doctrine is NOT built upon an example, an exhortation.

Note in Eph. 5: 30 `we are members of His Body, of His flesh and of His bones.`

Error by association ?
The catholics have a few things right.
I suppose your methods also cast down the trinity since the catholics believe in it?

You say doctrine is not built on example , but you cast down the bride of Christ due to example.
Not good

 

[David in NJ]

Rev 14 and Rev 19.
Either the bible or you is lying.

Can you actually read ?

The one coming myth is a lie a baby in Christ can see through.
Waste of thought to debate something that obvious..
Your deal is making a fool out of you.

Either the Bible, you, me or pre-trib is LYING

Choose wisely

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes.
By your own declaration of faith you will be left behind.

We watch and are ready.
You do not watch.... and you believe the false christ is coming... and no need to look for Jesus coming.
In fact you mock the wise virgins for going out to meet Him.

No my friend , not at all . WHEN the GREAT and MIGHTY DAY of GOD and of the LAMB
comes to deliver HIS w rath , it will be all who had served
the agenda of the beast , of his harlot and of its all inclusive ecumeincal interfaith anti christ gathering .
DO YOU KNOW of anyone that supports that ecumiencal interfaith . I b et you do .
My advice , dont hope in man , HOPE IN GOD and get far from the work of the inclusive god
of sensual love and its peace plan . AND DO IT NOW and take all with you .
FOR , you see , ITS NOT ME trodding CHRIST under foot for an anti christ peace plan THEY SAY BE OF GOD
but is only of satan . SO i would not worry over what ye think yo u might know about HIS coming
and rather GET far and wide from anyone and anything even connected to ecumeincal pope led and nar realm led
and even jew led and imam led false anti christ interfaith .
ITS ALL COMING down on JESUS DAY . Get out and get anyone out that you can . Cause when the door shuts
THEY ALL GONNA WAIL and wail and cry and cry unto their inclusive god to save them
AND IT JUST wont be able to deliver them from the great an d MIGHTY wrath
of the VERY GOD and VERY CHRIST , its psuedo love and false peace led them to upmost rebellion against and his saints .

 

[amigo de christo]

Either the Bible, you, me or pre-trib is LYING

Choose wisely

How about giving this other one a hint .
AS IN
LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar . EVERY WORD of GOD is TRUTH .
Thus if any cometh and twists any of it , THEY THE LIAR and NOT GOD . AMEN and FOREVER AMEN .
TO GOD and HIS CHRIST let us be faithful even unto death . No false hope here . ONLY JESUS . ONLY THE CHRIST OF GOD
shall we point to my friend .

 

[rebuilder 454]

SIMPLE TRUTH = Just follow the words of the LORD Jesus Christ

“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only.
But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until,

until what??? = until the day that Noah entered the ark,

"they" did NOT enter the Ark

"and did not know" = Who does JESUS Say "did not know" ???

Noah KNEW what was Coming = Genesis 6:13
And God said to Noah, “The end of all flesh has come before Me, for the earth is filled with violence through them; and behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

"until the flood came and took them all away,"

Now you can KNOW, unless you harden your heart

Yes.
I agree.
Omit "before the flood" , one taken/ left behind" and the pretrib setting.
Then, while keeping those blinders on, CENTER IN on the flood killing the entire planet...which results in your false doctrine ripping into the bible with great beligerance
Flat out make believe nonsense

Don't try to interpret any analogies.
It is foolishness for you to go there

I agree.
You are "right"
Just keep tweeting that bible and it will say everything you need it to.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Don't look for

No my friend , not at all . WHEN the GREAT and MIGHTY DAY of GOD and of the LAMB
comes to deliver HIS w rath , it will be all who had served
the agenda of the beast , of his harlot and of its all inclusive ecumeincal interfaith anti christ gathering .
DO YOU KNOW of anyone that supports that ecumiencal interfaith . I b et you do .
My advice , dont hope in man , HOPE IN GOD and get far from the work of the inclusive god
of sensual love and its peace plan . AND DO IT NOW and take all with you .
FOR , you see , ITS NOT ME trodding CHRIST under foot for an anti christ peace plan THEY SAY BE OF GOD
but is only of satan . SO i would not worry over what ye think yo u might know about HIS coming
and rather GET far and wide from anyone and anything even connected to ecumeincal pope led and nar realm led
and even jew led and imam led false anti christ interfaith .
ITS ALL COMING down on JESUS DAY . Get out and get anyone out that you can . Cause when the door shuts
THEY ALL GONNA WAIL and wail and cry and cry unto their inclusive god to save them
AND IT JUST wont be able to deliver them from the great an d MIGHTY wrath
of the VERY GOD and VERY CHRIST , its psuedo love and false peace led them to upmost rebellion against and his saints .

Dont look for Jesus .
Keep an eye out for the antichrist.

Keep the "faith".
Sad

 

[David in NJ]

Yes.
I agree.
Omit "before the flood" , one taken/ left behind" and the pretrib setting.
Then, while keeping those blinders on, CENTER IN on the flood killing the entire planet...which results in your false doctrine ripping into the bible with great beligerance
Flat out make believe nonsense

Don't try to interpret any analogies.
It is foolishness for you to go there

I agree.
You are "right"
Just keep tweeting that bible and it will say everything you need it to.

Are you saying that by omitting "before the flood" is the pre-trib setting???

JESUS and myself have not omitted anything!!!!

The "blinder" and the error of 'pre-trib' is to rearrange who is taken and who is left.

JESUS Says "those who did not believe God that a Flood was Coming did not enter the Ark and as a result =
the Flood swept/took them away"

JESUS Says, Noah knew the Flood was Coming and by faith Noah built the Ark as God Commanded = Noah remained

By faith Noah, being warned by God concerning events as yet unseen, in reverent fear constructed an ark for the saving of his household. By this he condemned the world and became an heir of the righteousness that comes by faith.

 

[David in NJ]

Don't look for

Dont look for Jesus .
Keep an eye out for the antichrist.

Keep the "faith".
Sad

Are we not to believe every word Spoken by GOD = Matt 4:4

 

[amigo de christo]

Don't look for

Dont look for Jesus .
Keep an eye out for the antichrist.

Keep the "faith".
Sad

Quite the contrary my friend . ITS YOU who need to be looking for Christ .
For it is also you that do not see clearly the signs of the times .
WAY and much farther along are we . This ecumiencal intefaith IS THE JUDGMENT OF GOD
against all who loved a lie and had embraced a lie . IT IS THE LIE and it has come cloaked
as though it be the peace plan of GOD when it has clearly denied the very peace plan of GOD .
WHAT IS the peace plan of GOD . TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST so as one can be reconciled
to and have peace with GOD . but its intefaith interreligious dialgoue HAS DENEID THIS
as it hollers ALL religoins serve the same GOD in different and diverse ways .
KINDA ODD dont ya think . WHEN ONLY JESUS , IS THE ONLY WAY and to be saved and have peace
with GOD , ONE MUST Believe . Yalls popes , yalls nar realm , yalls bidens and yalls TRUMP
cannot save you . THEY ALL are co helpers to and co supporters of that one lie .
SO now a word . CURSED is the man whose hope be in man
but BLESSED be the man whose hope bE IN GOD thus in HIS CHRIST , thus would have been IN ALL THINGS
he taught . SO again i say FLEE any , flee all , flee who ever and whaterver is anyway
connected to the inclusive god called satan and its interfiath of anti christ peace plan . AN D NOW .
cause guess what these co workers of satan actually beleive
this lie , this merger with anti christ and the beast is gonna bring them , PEACE N SAFETY .
And now a word .
FOR WHEN they shall say peace n safety , THEN SUDDEN destruction shall come upon them all and they will NOT escape .
YOU have had me pegged wrong all along . I do b e watching
and what i say to one i say to all watch . CAUSE THAT DOOR will close in an instant
and by the signs of the times , WATCH . cause all outside shall wail .
AND beleieve you me any false religoin as well as anyone within christendom dressed in wool
WHO HAS ANYTHING to do AT ALL with this ecumeincal intefaith , OH THEY GONNA WAIL , only it will be TOO LATE .

 

[amigo de christo]

Are you saying that by omitting "before the flood" is the pre-trib setting???

JESUS and myself have not omitted anything!!!!

The "blinder" and the error of 'pre-trib' is to rearrange who is taken and who is left.

JESUS Says "those who did not believe God that a Flood was Coming did not enter the Ark and as a result =
the Flood swept/took them away"

JESUS Says, Noah knew the Flood was Coming and by faith Noah built the Ark as God Commanded = Noah remained

By faith Noah, being warned by God concerning events as yet unseen, in reverent fear constructed an ark for the saving of his household. By this he condemned the world and became an heir of the righteousness that comes by faith.

and by faith do the sheep warn all , come ye into the ark of GOD prepared by GOD and the lamb .
And only one door , only one entrance b y which a person can enter . BY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST .
Yet many had rather run to the ecumiencal interfaith inclusive ship of great size and many diverse and strange doors
b y which to enter into it . Believing it to be the ship prepared by GOD
but not knowing it has DENIED the ONLY ONE who could have truly saved them .
And they do sail upon this ship of mighty and great , massive and huge , constructed by
untempered morter and rotted wood . Believing it to be the unsinkable ship
by which they shall be kept safe from the wrath of GOD and of the LAMB .
but , yoo hoo , THAT SHIP IS COMING DOWN and all its passengers upon it , ON JESUS DAY .

 

[amigo de christo]

Are we not to believe every word Spoken by GOD = Matt 4:4

and now a word .
LET GOD be TRUE but every man a liar . SO hows that for an answer . YOU BET WE ARE .
And The Sheep of the great Shepard WHO is the TRUTH , the LIFE and the WAY to the FATHER ,
hear his voice . You know this voice .
FOR THIS C AUSE came i into the world and for this reason was i born
to testify of THE TRUTH . all who are of THE TRUTH come TO ME .
What is his voice . TRUTH
what are his words , T RUTH
TRUTH , SPIRIT and LIFE and giveth LIFE eternal unto all who do BELEIVE .
You bet its bible time in the house . so many have sat under and worse continue to sit under
Doctrines of men which can neither lead them to TRUTH but rather from it .
But the sheep do not heed that voice . JESUS has the sheep
And they know , no , NO LIE is of the TRUTH . this people better repent and watch out
lest that DAY , that great and mighty DAY of GOD and of the LAMB
come upon them as WRATH and not DELIVERANCE as it will for the sheep .
WRATH is coming upon this ungoldy world and upon even this ungodly sold out interfaith realm
of christendom . FOR they led this people ONLY into the greatest hour of REBELLION towards
GOD , HIS CHRIST , HIS LOVE , HIS WORDS and HIS PEOPLE .
Tick , tick , tick goes the clock . And all who build , all who mix the morter , all who add
wood to wood and are in any way co helpers to and co b uilders of
this great and mighty ecumeincal strange and diverse , inclusive anti christ titanic , THEY and that SHIP
goes DOWN under wrath ON HIS DAY . NO deliverance for such as help this people in ITS REBELLION to GOD .