Burn your LIST : Trust In Christ Instead.

[Wrangler]

You choose to focus on doctrinal differences that divide us.
I choose to focus on what we all have in common which unites us, Jesus Christ.

I've come to realize that doctrine is the biggest form of IDOLATRY in Christendom. Its divisiveness is seen in the Great Schism and the Protestant Reformation. The Catholic Church holds it's authority as equal to Scripture.

The closest Scripture comes to a doctrinal purity test is Romans 10:9, which is too simple for IDOLATORS. @amigo de christo's "interfaith" obsession has caused me to put him on ignore as he hijacks every thread with it. As you said, focus on what we have in common. IMO, that is an extension of Phillipians 4:8.

 

[amigo de christo]

I've come to realize that doctrine is the biggest form of IDOLATRY in Christendom. Its divisiveness is seen in the Great Schism and the Protestant Reformation. The Catholic Church holds it's authority as equal to Scripture.

The closest Scripture comes to a doctrinal purity test is Romans 10:9, which is too simple for IDOLATORS. @amigo de christo's "interfaith" obsession has caused me to put him on ignore as he hijacks every thread with it. As you said, focus on what we have in common. IMO, that is an extension of Phillipians 4:8.

kinda odd . you do realize that we have many anti christs on this earth . Even now .
yet some of them are cloaked in wool , and many sure seem to preach another go spell
and many even accept sins , certain ones .
BUT WE JUST SUPPOSED TO SHUT UP and GET ALONG and FIND out wha we have in common .
Really . YOu do realize that is how evil continues to take over places .
You have no idea what much of christendom has made its bed with my friend .
But we just supposed to shut up about doctrine and correction and rather try and find out what we have in common .
WOW wrangler , no wonder the churches are so easily decieved and the leaven only grows .
Try reading the bible for Just yourself again . When evil is allowed to remain
it always brings more . Correction , sound doctrine , TRUTH , IS a necessity . wake up wrangler
the churches are in shambles and all you do is fan the flames upon them .

 

[Behold]

Behold denies a born again person to sin,

What Paul teaches is that "God hath made Jesus to BE SIN" for the born again.... as "the ONE TIME>..,. Eternal Sacrifice for sin".

And this BLOOD ATONEMENT, that is the NEW COVENANT, also took care of the Law, so that the born again is not "Under the Law but under (God's) Grace".

Now, if you are under the law, then the Law can define what you do, as sin, transgression, iniquity, and evil, and rebellion...ect.
But because "God hath made Jesus to be SIN for us"", as "the one time ETERNAL Sacrifice for sin".........then that takes care of the sin of a born again Christian, FOREVER.

And because the born again "is NOT = UNDER THE LAW, but Under (God's) Grace".......then the Law can never ever again define what a Christian does as sin, iniquity, transgression, or evil, or rebellion.

Now this does not mean that the Christian is going to be perfect, in behavior........it simply means that God's Grace has taken the Law away from the Born again, so that the Law can't define you as a sinner or your deeds as sin, ever again.

Eternal Result?

"Where there is no LAW, there is no Transgression (sin)".... found.

The Born again, are born again as "In Christ", and "one with God".
The Born again is BIRTHED Spiritually by God's Holy Spirit, INTO the KOG..

Now, is there any sin in the KOG?
Is there any Sin found in God?
Is there any Sin found in Christ?

And the born again is "in Christ"..."one with God".....forever birthed into the KOG........and there is no sin found there, because there is no Moses Law found there..., and that is why the born again are "made free from Sin"....forever.

Welcome to : SALVATION...........its a FREE ETERNAL GIFT from God.... "the GIFT of Salvation".

 

[Armour of God]

I've come to realize that doctrine is the biggest form of IDOLATRY in Christendom. Its divisiveness is seen in the Great Schism and the Protestant Reformation. The Catholic Church holds it's authority as equal to Scripture.

The closest Scripture comes to a doctrinal purity test is Romans 10:9, which is too simple for IDOLATORS. @amigo de christo's "interfaith" obsession has caused me to put him on ignore as he hijacks every thread with it. As you said, focus on what we have in common. IMO, that is an extension of Phillipians 4:8.

"Interfaith" I don't even know what that means

I find it a bit weird how people criticise the RCC when they trust the bible 100% which was compiled by the RCC in the first place.

People call the RCC evil or demonic or Satanic but that's nonsense, Catholics don't worship Satan, they worship Jesus Christ just like every other Christian.
Yes there are Catholic doctrines that I question, mainly the Marian ones.

But

People love to focus on doctrinal differences that divide us. That's the will of the evil one.

I prefer to focus on unity and what we all have in common which is our love for Christ. That's Gods will

 

[Armour of God]

Try reading the bible

That bible that you trust and love so much was compiled by the Roman Catholic Church which you hate and despise so much.

Figure out that contradiction if you can

 

[Wrangler]

I find it a bit weird how people criticise the RCC when they trust the bible 100% which was compiled by the RCC in the first place.

Me too. I find it out that Protestants refuse to even call them Christians. The say they, "They are Catholic but I am Christian."

Having said that, I consider the beginning of the RCC to be in the 11 century at the Great Schism. IMO, the corruption of the church began before the compiling of the Bible. In fact, the compiling was a reaction to the corruption. (See the Arian controversy, When Jesus Became God by Richard Rubenstein and my private email to you.)

Putting that aside, it is hard to compile a list of books on Christianity and exclude the writings of those who reportedly walked with Christ.

People call the RCC evil or demonic or Satanic but that's nonsense, Catholics don't worship Satan, they worship Jesus Christ just like every other Christian.

Agreed. They are the experts in exorcism, keepers of more relics than any other church and have a tradition as old as the Orthodox Church in the East. I've come to reject their claim their organization began with Peter for Paul was the Apostle to the Gentiles and the RCC has HQ in Gentile Rome.

Having said that, their recent scandals regarding child molestation does not keep them apart from the demonic and Satanic.

 

[Wrangler]

"Interfaith" I don't even know what that means

After reading 5,000 of @amigo de christo posts railing against it, you still won't! LOL

He doesn't like people of different faiths to come together in common cause. Afraid he is this will give rise to one world religion, I think.

 

[amigo de christo]

That bible that you trust and love so much was compiled by the Roman Catholic Church which you hate and despise so much.

Figure out that contradiction if you can

the torah was also rewritten and handed down . Dont mean GOD was pleased at all
with the jewish leadership that constantly seemed to lead the people into rebellion against GOD .
Just cause some scribes may have copied it down , DONT MEAN that church even served GOD .
The jews had meticulcous scribes that would recopy the torah . Sadly they , like the RCC ,
dont even know the GOD who inspired such words and Truth .
Anyone can rewrite a letter . SO just cause the scrips were kept by such a place
Dont mean squat . Even joel osteen can hold up the bible
and say THIS is teh BIBLE , i can do what it says , i believe what it says .
THAT DUDE dont . SO to with the leadership of the RCC
oh they can say HEY it was our church that copied it
But i say , DONT MEAN you follow GOD . just means faithful scribes could rewrite it .
The RCC is d eadly . And i do mean deadly to the soul of all who enter into
and continue to sit under it . She the big MAMA that even betrayed THE GOSPEL with an inclusive kiss
AND GAVE to the world and its false religoins , A CHRIST DENYING LIE .
And you want me to sit under that . I will die first . JESUS is MY LORD and i shall
cling TO CHRIST and the sound biblical doctrine of t ruth . These fleecers , WHCIH ARE ALL over
the protesetant realm , AND I KNOW the RCC
can keep their pile of anti christ intefaith for peace . I WILL DIE first before i join hands and have unity
with anything like that . YOU hear that . DIE FIRST . but always remember
I DONT even beleive in self defense . SO it wont be me picking up the sword or gun or anything
to defend my self . But join in that , find common ground with that , I WILL DIE FIRST .
SO now you have a decision to make . EITHER i am of satan or of God . but it cannot be both
AND I call out the RCC and the protesetant realm for its anti christ peace ecumeincal plan .
IT IS OF SATAN . so what its gonna be cause it cant b e both .
YOU cant t ry and hug me and say OH WE boTH serve GOD . cause we DO NOT both serve the same GOD .
MY GOD desires NOTHING to do with this anti christ ecumiencal int efaith peace plan and its satanic interreligious dialagoue .
SO you and these we are on unity kiddos are just gonna have to figure out what to do
with men like me . cause if ya dont shut us up , WE will turn the tide . YOU need to decide today .
AS FOR ME . ITS JESUS . not anti christ ecumiencal satanic interfaith . I will DIE before i join that . DIE .

 

[amigo de christo]

After reading 5,000 of @amigo de christo posts railing against it, you still won't! LOL

He doesn't like people of different faiths to come together in common cause. Afraid he is this will give rise to one world religion, I think.

YEAH I dont LIKE when all relgions were and are brought together
and THEN TOLD A ANTI CHRIST LIE that said HEY buddists , HEY muslims , HEY ALL RELIGOINS
you all serve the same GOD WE DO . WE all just coming to him in diverse different ways .
THAT IS A LIE wrangler . I CALL OUT THE RCC and the sold out protestants and their ecumiencal intefaith
of anti christ peace .
I WILL DIE before i join hands and find any common ground with it . I will expose it no matter the cost to me
AND POINT ONLY TO JESUS with the reminder
That YE MUST ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE HE IS THE CHRIST , THE SON OF GOD , THAT GOD ROSE HIM FROM THE DEAD ,
to be saved . And all other religoins are in d arkness as even i once was
BEFORE GOD drew me TO CHRIST .
I WILL DIE before i join hands with you , them or anyone WHO Sat under this anti christ peace plan . THIS LIE
THIS LIE that made the dire need to believe on JESUS a waste of time .
I EXPOSE IT . I will die first wrangler .
SO now you and others need to start figuring out what to do with men like me that will not conform .
Perhaps many will pray to their all inclusive interfaith god for a solution and a savoir and a means
to deal with men like me . But i will DIE before i join hands with anti christ . I SERVE JESUS CHRIST , not anti christ .

 

[Armour of God]

They are the experts in exorcism

That's a topic I looked into deeply and your right. They certainly are experts at driving out demons

 

[Armour of God]

the torah was also rewritten and handed down . Dont mean GOD was pleased at all
with the jewish leadership that constantly seemed to lead the people into rebellion against GOD .
Just cause some scribes may have copied it down , DONT MEAN that church even served GOD .
The jews had meticulcous scribes that would recopy the torah . Sadly they , like the RCC ,
dont even know the GOD who inspired such words and Truth .
Anyone can rewrite a letter . SO just cause the scrips were kept by such a place
Dont mean squat . Even joel osteen can hold up the bible
and say THIS is teh BIBLE , i can do what it says , i believe what it says .
THAT DUDE dont . SO to with the leadership of the RCC
oh they can say HEY it was our church that copied it
But i say , DONT MEAN you follow GOD . just means faithful scribes could rewrite it .
The RCC is d eadly . And i do mean deadly to the soul of all who enter into
and continue to sit under it . She the big MAMA that even betrayed THE GOSPEL with an inclusive kiss
AND GAVE to the world and its false religoins , A CHRIST DENYING LIE .
And you want me to sit under that . I will die first . JESUS is MY LORD and i shall
cling TO CHRIST and the sound biblical doctrine of t ruth . These fleecers , WHCIH ARE ALL over
the protesetant realm , AND I KNOW the RCC
can keep their pile of anti christ intefaith for peace . I WILL DIE first before i join hands and have unity
with anything like that . YOU hear that . DIE FIRST . but always remember
I DONT even beleive in self defense . SO it wont be me picking up the sword or gun or anything
to defend my self . But join in that , find common ground with that , I WILL DIE FIRST .
SO now you have a decision to make . EITHER i am of satan or of God . but it cannot be both
AND I call out the RCC and the protesetant realm for its anti christ peace ecumeincal plan .
IT IS OF SATAN . so what its gonna be cause it cant b e both .
YOU cant t ry and hug me and say OH WE boTH serve GOD . cause we DO NOT both serve the same GOD .
MY GOD desires NOTHING to do with this anti christ ecumiencal int efaith peace plan and its satanic interreligious dialagoue .
SO you and these we are on unity kiddos are just gonna have to figure out what to do
with men like me . cause if ya dont shut us up , WE will turn the tide . YOU need to decide today .
AS FOR ME . ITS JESUS . not anti christ ecumiencal satanic interfaith . I will DIE before i join that . DIE .

I find it very ironic that the book that you love and trust was compiled by the Catholics that you hate and despise.

But hey you can focus on doctrinal differences that divide us.

I'll focus on what we all have in common,
Jesus Christ.

 

[Marvelloustime]

It is truly become a nightmare my friend . Doctrine it seems no longer matters . Very very sad to see this my friend .
It has truly gone the way the infiltrators desired . They knew . They knew all along
how to merge christendom to a lie . And sadly it has worked on many now .
You have my tears and prayers my friend , But dont expect me to conform to this
idea that RCC , JW , mormons , new age and etc are all automatically chris tain .
Truly i sorrow for many now . B ut a gain dont expect me to join hands with a lie
NOR with THE LIE that soon will have merged not just the denominations but all religoins of mother earth .
The lie
and agenda of that which is of anti christ , I KNEW it could not be s topped . B ut i knew i always had to warn .
Sadly in large has it fallen on many a dear ear and a blind eye . Many now love a lie and are in love
and falling more so in love WITH the mystery of inquity , with a queen of all harlots and mother of all abominations .
Very hard to see this . Very difficult to have had to see all of this .
But again dont weep for me my friend and do not expect me to bend the knee to any harlot let alone THE BIG ONE .
I be in the business of exposing harlots and their ecumiencal interfaith of anti christ peace plan .
Only wish more would have heard the warnings and had returned to Christ and the holy bible
so as they too could have learned the TRUTH for themselves .
The TRUTH of what has infiltrated and come and overcome much of christendom .
TILL today all h oller love , all say GOD is love , yet know neither GOD or hiS love .
THEY have no id ea what true christainity is or has lost or that they are lost . Very difficult this has been
for me to see it g row and become the norm in the halls of denominations .
Soon a king will appear and it will appear as a neutral one . AND ALL sides will hear its call and solution
And the great crusades will begin and laws enforced by the digital global system of the beast .
All , cept the true non conforming sheep will hear its voice and believe its will to be of GOD . yet it be only of satan .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

It is truly become a nightmare my friend . Doctrine it seems no longer matters . Very very sad to see this my friend .
It has truly gone the way the infiltrators desired . They knew . They knew all along
how to merge christendom to a lie . And sadly it has worked on many now .
You have my tears and prayers my friend , But dont expect me to conform to this
idea that RCC , JW , mormons , new age and etc are all automatically chris tain .
Truly i sorrow for many now . B ut a gain dont expect me to join hands with a lie
NOR with THE LIE that soon will have merged not just the denominations but all religoins of mother earth .
The lie
and agenda of that which is of anti christ , I KNEW it could not be s topped . B ut i knew i always had to warn .
Sadly in large has it fallen on many a dear ear and a blind eye . Many now love a lie and are in love
and falling more so in love WITH the mystery of inquity , with a queen of all harlots and mother of all abominations .
Very hard to see this . Very difficult to have had to see all of this .
But again dont weep for me my friend and do not expect me to bend the knee to any harlot let alone THE BIG ONE .
I be in the business of exposing harlots and their ecumiencal interfaith of anti christ peace plan .
Only wish more would have heard the warnings and had returned to Christ and the holy bible
so as they too could have learned the TRUTH for themselves .
The TRUTH of what has infiltrated and come and overcome much of christendom .
TILL today all h oller love , all say GOD is love , yet know neither GOD or hiS love .
THEY have no id ea what true christainity is or has lost or that they are lost . Very difficult this has been
for me to see it g row and become the norm in the halls of denominations .
Soon a king will appear and it will appear as a neutral one . AND ALL sides will hear its call and solution
And the great crusades will begin and laws enforced by the digital global system of the beast .
All , cept the true non conforming sheep will hear its voice and believe its will to be of GOD . yet it be only of satan .

@amigo de christo

 

[Behold]

Reader lets keep it simple.

Who are you trusting in to get you to heaven ?????????

Listen,
, if you believe that you can lose your salvation, then you are not trusting in Christ to get you to Heaven.
You are not trusting in Christ to keep you saved.
You actauly dont trust in Christ........and that is why you believe that you can lose your Salvaiton.

This means your faith is in something else....its in YOURSELF.....as you are trying to stay saved by self effort.

See that?
But you are not the savior, so you are wasting your life inside a false faith, that is deception.

So, the way out......is the way back......as you have left real faith, and that is why you dont believe that Jesus keeps you saved... which is why you believe that you can lose your salvation.
Your faith is broken......its gone.......Its not dead.......its MISSING.....its MIS-Placed.

Therefore, you need to repent of trying to save yourself by commandments and water baptism, and self effort.
You simply need to turn your faith back to JESUS, and trust in HIM ALONE to save you = and keep you saved.

 

[faithhopecharity]

Reader,

God's "Gift of Salvation" can't fail you, because its Eternal Life.........not Temporary.
God's Salvation forgives you, saves you, and Keeps you Saved.
How?
A.) "The Cross of Christ".......is God's Salvation, and you can't do that or keep that......you can only RECEIVE from God by FAITH = .....

1. "The Gift of Salvation"...

2.) "The Gift of Righteousness"

3.) and "The Gift of Eternal Life".

Now, if God's Son's Blood and Death Sacrifice for you could not sustain your ""eternal life ("God's Gift of Salvation") as well as give it to you for FREE...
= If God's Son's Blood Atonement could not sustain your Salvation, for eternity, then it would be no good.
However, as God can't Fail, and because Jesus is The God-Man on The Cross...then we see that God's Blood can't fail you, and will always : = Keep You Saved.

Reader, God's Son's Blood is Full Payment for the "sin of the World"... as "all who call on the Name of Jesus (Believing) shall be saved.""
So, we see that THE Eternally Cleansing Blood of Jesus is able to forgive every sinner in the world for the last 2000 yrs.......so, this Blood of Jesus can certainly eternally deal with your sin, and keep you = Covered, or "washed in the Blood of The Lamb".

Now, lets get rid of your unbelief.
And, if im talking to you, then how do we know that you have unbelief...(no real faith in Christ)....Its because you have a Self Saving LIST that you are trying to do and keep, that you BELIEVE that if you do and keep, if you will continue to do it all, or try to.. then you wont lose your Salvation.

Let me show you your list.

Now, Read this Eternal Truth and I'll show you your Self Saving List.

1.) = Jesus who saved me with His Blood, keeps me saved no matter what, for as long as God exists.

Here it is again... Jesus who saved me with His BLOOD, keeps me saved no matter, = for as long as God exists.

Now, look at your response...
Notice how you read "no matter what" and suddenly your Self SAVING LIST.... showed up <.
You want to argue your SELF SAVING LIST... You want to post your LIST of "what i do to try to stay saved"......"here is my list, and i have a verse, and , and, and, and..............>.""

Now see your List that DENIES that Jesus Keeps you saved, no matter what? ???
Take a good long look at your CROSS DENYING LIST.
That List is in Fact, your own Self Righteous CROSS and you are hanging on it right now and you want to post some opinions and some misunderstood verses to try to falsely prove just how large is your self saving LIST and just how heavy is your Cross of Self righteousness.

And what is Your SELF Righteousness?....Its Your trying to make SELF>.....right with God.
Paul teaches that you are ..."fallen from Grace".
And that is why you have your SELF SAVING LIST that you want to tell us about, again.
Well, Listen up.... deceived one...
God is not interested in your Self Saving List, and He is not pleased that you have a big one, ... because HE already Saved you with HIS "GIFT of Salvation"", and you have relaced God's Salvation GIFT with your Cross of Christ offending : SELF SAVING LIST.

Now...Here is God's Saving List"...= "believe on Jesus whom God Sent".
And that's it.
"Faith in Christ".....>"Justification BY faith without works or deed of (Moses) Law" (including commandment keeping).

Now look at your Self Saving List again...

See it?

Paul teaches that you are "fallen from Grace".

Now you have to get rid of it, or you'll stay a confused Hebrews 6:1 failed disciple who can't understand God's Salvation, and can't get anything from the Bible, other then your confused opinion, or some Heretics Theology.

Now if you are that Self Saver that ive describe very clearly.....and you are honest with Yourself and God.... THEN Here is how you get rid of your = Blood of CHRIST Offending Self Saving Carnal LIST .
= You read John 14:6 and you actually believe it.
Then ask yourself.......

Q.) ..."well, as i dont TRULY Trust in Christ to keep me saved, no matter what, then WHO AM I TRUSING IN, TO Keep me SAVED? ????????????.

A.) Look at your Self Saving LIST for Your = Blood Of CHRIST Offending ANSWER.

Now, get rid of your list....GET RID OF YOUR < Self Saving > LIST FOREVER.....and Trust only and always in Christ Alone to keep you saved, instead,.... is how you get rid of your Self Saving- Blood of CHRIST = offending LIST, and return to REAL FAITH in Christ.

the list provided by scripture?

Jn 3:16 1 Jn 5:13 Perpetual faith
mt 3:8 2 cor 7:10 fruits of repentance
Jn 15:4 abide in Christ & bear fruit
Lk 3:9 bear fruit
Lk 1:75 acts 10:35 deeds of righteousness
phil 1:11 fruits of righteousness
mt 26:41 watch and pray
mk 24:48 watch and pray
Lk 21:36 Watch and pray, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
mt 7:7 ask and you shall receive
Lk 9:23 phil 1:29 daily, deny thyself, take up thy cross and follow me.
ps 23:3 leads in paths (deeds) of righteousness acts 10:35
mt 7:14 narrow road that leads to life
2 pet 3:18 grow in grace
heb 6:12 faith & patience
heb 12:4 Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.
James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
rev 2:19 faith, patience, & works
rev 14:12 commandments, patience, & faith
mt 19:17 Jn 14:21 1 cor 7:19 1Jn 3:24 1 Jn 5:2-3 rev 12:17 keep the commandments
eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
mt 10:22 mk 13:13 mt 24:13 endure to the end in patient suffering
heb 6:15 after he had patiently endured, he obtained the promise.
rev 2:10 he who overcomes I shall give the crown of life!

Jude 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

Romans 2:7
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

Hebrews 10:36
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
(eternal salvation)





((endure to the end shall be saved))

mk 13:13
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

mt 10:22
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

mt 24:13
But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

heb 3:6
But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.

heb 3:14
For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

rev 2:10
Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

thks