Israel "the promised land"

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Davy

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You think you're Israel and say MY mind is not in the right place? lol

You need to read the CURSE of God. A clear warning to identity thieves trying to steal Israel's identity.

You need to look at yourself if you think those FALSE JEWS of the "synagogue of Satan" that Jesus identified are true Israel. Even one of Satan's elect can... still turn to Lord Jesus Christ and repent, and be saved. It might be difficult for those, being God gave them a "brute beast" nature they have to overcome, but Christ said He can forgive all manner of sin, except the unpardonable sin.
 

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Your understanding appears to be based on an unsupported assumption that the people in Israel today are not from all the tribes of Israel: ("The majority of the true Jews of the seed are still scattered in the nations today").,

By you saying that, shows a loose tongue, because I never said none of the people in Israel today are not true Israel. Instead, I made a clear... distinction between the 'false' Jews who Jesus revealed that only 'SAY'... they are Jews, but are not, and do lie, but are the "synagogue of Satan", vs. the TRUE JEWS of the actual seed of Israel. Heck, I even showed about God's parable of the two baskets of figs written in Jeremiah 24! Where were you when you missed reading that? or you no doubt did not read my post on that.

So before you go accusing me you should make sure you know what you are talking about. And in this case you clearly do not know what your are talking about, and furthermore, you show you are completely Biblically illiterate about this subject of false Jews vs. true Jews of the seed.

Rev 3:9
9 Behold, I will make them of
the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
KJV
 

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You need to look at yourself if you think those FALSE JEWS of the "synagogue of Satan" that Jesus identified are true Israel. Even one of Satan's elect can... still turn to Lord Jesus Christ and repent, and be saved. It might be difficult for those, being God gave them a "brute beast" nature they have to overcome, but Christ said He can forgive all manner of sin, except the unpardonable sin.
You're Israel? lol

Why aren't you in Israel Davy? Don't have a map?
 

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Brethren in Christ Jesus:

What is all this bickering by the deceived who think today's 'false' Jews are of the true seed Israel? Why are those 'false' Jews trying... to make the Church believe that God has already fulfilled His prophecies about the final gathering of His chosen Israel back to the lands as today's nation of Israel? Why are they misusing Old Testament prophecy about the gathering of Israel back to the land which is meant only for the future time when Lord Jesus Christ returns?

It all boils down to one major deceptive aim, the coming of 'their' FALSE-MESSIAH to Jerusalem which the 'false' Jews there will setup as their "king of the world". Lord Jesus and His Apostles warned us about that false one coming first to Jerusalem to play God in a new stone temple there. Lord Jesus returns after that event to destroy that false one, like Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 2.

Those 'false' Jews there of the "synagogue of Satan" want us to believe that first supernatural Messiah that is coming there will be our Lord Jesus Christ. It won't be, but instead will be a fake. Jesus comes after that.

And the 'true' Jews of the seed of Israel that are there dwelling in the nation of Israel, who still reject our Lord Jesus Christ as the Biblical Messiah, will be deceived by those 'false' Jews just like they were when they agreed to have Lord Jesus delivered up to be crucified at His 1st coming. The 'true' Jews of the seed of Israel fully intend to worship God and do love Him, but they have been deceived by the 'false' Jew crept in unawares, Canaanite foreigners that sit in Moses' seat like Lord Jesus warned. Those 'false' Jews of the "synagogue of Satan" controlling the nation of Israel today want YOU, a follower of Jesus Christ, to also be fooled into bowing to their false "king of the world" they plan to setup in Jerusalem over ALL nations.

Thus they LIE about the time of the gathering of Israel back to the lands God promised Israel's fathers. Will you and your Church go there when their false-Messiah shows up there? will you think their false-Messiah will be our Lord Jesus Christ having come? There is a very EASY way to tell. According to Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 15, on the day of Christ's future coming to gather His Church, Paul said those us on earth will be suddenly "changed" to our "spiritual body" at the "twinkling of an eye". That means putting off our flesh on that day, fast as one can blink. If that does not happen when their false-Messiah shows up in Jerusalem, and they proclaim him as The Christ, then you know that one is a FAKE.
 

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God bless Israel in the Land of the Bible, again and again!

And He will too!

Cursed be the Israel identity thieves!

Genesis 12:3 I will curse him who curses you;
 

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By you saying that, shows a loose tongue, because I never said none of the people in Israel today are not true Israel. Instead, I made a clear... distinction between the 'false' Jews who Jesus revealed that only 'SAY'... they are Jews, but are not, and do lie, but are the "synagogue of Satan", vs. the TRUE JEWS of the actual seed of Israel. Heck, I even showed about God's parable of the two baskets of figs written in Jeremiah 24! Where were you when you missed reading that? or you no doubt did not read my post on that.

So before you go accusing me you should make sure you know what you are talking about. And in this case you clearly do not know what your are talking about, and furthermore, you show you are completely Biblically illiterate about this subject of false Jews vs. true Jews of the seed.

Rev 3:9
9 Behold, I will make them of
the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
KJV
cool down friend ... no need for offensive personal accusations ... practice a little patience & grace ... and focus on the subject, not the person
 
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Your understanding appears to be based on an unsupported assumption that the people in Israel today are not from all the tribes of Israel: ("The majority of the true Jews of the seed are still scattered in the nations today").,
If you're still reckoning 'who-is-an-Israelite' according to genealogies, you've missed the boat by about 2,000 years.

The New Testament reckons that according to BELIEF.
 

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God bless Israel in the Land of the Bible, again and again!

And He will too!

Cursed be the Israel identity thieves!

Genesis 12:3 I will curse him who curses you;

And those "identity thieves" are those false Jews of the "synagogue of Satan" that Lord Jesus pointed out in John 8 and Matthew 13 in the parable of the wheat and tares, i.e., the crept in unawares of leftover Canaanites, which worked their way into Israel's priesthood and the scribe positions, sitting in Moses' seat.

Those... are the ones controlling today's nation of Israel, and are still vehemently against Jesus Christ. And they are the ones trying... to steal the identity of the 'seed' of Israel and modify Bible prophecy about the actual future return of Messiah.
 

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And those "identity thieves" are those false Jews of the "synagogue of Satan" that Lord Jesus pointed out in John 8 and Matthew 13 in the parable of the wheat and tares, i.e., the crept in unawares of leftover Canaanites, which worked their way into Israel's priesthood and the scribe positions, sitting in Moses' seat.
They were hypocrites who didn't believe in Jesus. MANY Jews believed in Him.
Those... are the ones controlling today's nation of Israel, and are still vehemently against Jesus Christ. And they are the ones trying... to steal the identity of the 'seed' of Israel and modify Bible prophecy about the actual future return of Messiah.
Can you prove any of that? Are you really going to judge them? Why will Jesus FIGHT for them upon His return? God brought Israel Home to stay in the Land of the Bible. It belongs to them.
 

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Prophecy from Daniel pinpointed 4 major literal local empires that would dominate and at times rule over God's people. Babylon, Medo- Persia, Greece, and Rome. A fifth power, growing from the head of Rome as a little horn, revealed as transition from literal local empires to global spiritual powers. This is detailed in Revelation where we see a beast rising up out of the sea having the spiritual characteristics of those former pagan powers. In the final days in which we now live there are but two powers. Both global. Both spiritual. Both claiming truth. One is called Jerusalem, the other Babylon. One is depicted in Revelation 12 as the chaste pure woman who have birth to the Messiah but was chased into the wilderness where she was persecuted. The second is depicted in Revelation 17. This woman, a harlot, who is fornicating with the kings of the earth and in union with them persecute the true woman of Revelation 12. Both women are spiritual religious entities. Churches. One true, one fallen. One faithful, one in apostasy. Neither of them are literal local Israel. But all of us must make personal individual choices as to which one we choose to give our loyalty. And the gospel shall be preached to all nations kindreds tongues and people, then shall the end come. And people shall be drawn out of all those nations, kindreds and tongues, including from literal local Israel, and they shall, after the second coming, become a part of the innumerable number of saints standing on the sea of glass in glory worshiping and celebrating before the throne of God.
Later, in 1000 years, they shall return to an earth made new, and this spiritual Israel them occupying the New Jerusalem coming out of heaven to the new Earth will be the fulfillment of all the prophecies regarding the return of Israel to the land. And thus also shall be fulfilled the promise of Jesus in Matthew, the meek shall inherit the earth.
 

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Prophecy from Daniel pinpointed 4 major literal local empires that would dominate and at times rule over God's people. Babylon, Medo- Persia, Greece, and Rome. A fifth power, growing from the head of Rome as a little horn, revealed as transition from literal local empires to global spiritual powers. This is detailed in Revelation where we see a beast rising up out of the sea having the spiritual characteristics of those former pagan powers. In the final days in which we now live there are but two powers. Both global. Both spiritual. Both claiming truth. One is called Jerusalem, the other Babylon. One is depicted in Revelation 12 as the chaste pure woman who have birth to the Messiah but was chased into the wilderness where she was persecuted. The second is depicted in Revelation 17. This woman, a harlot, who is fornicating with the kings of the earth and in union with them persecute the true woman of Revelation 12. Both women are spiritual religious entities. Churches. One true, one fallen. One faithful, one in apostasy. Neither of them are literal local Israel. But all of us must make personal individual choices as to which one we choose to give our loyalty. And the gospel shall be preached to all nations kindreds tongues and people, then shall the end come. And people shall be drawn out of all those nations, kindreds and tongues, including from literal local Israel, and they shall, after the second coming, become a part of the innumerable number of saints standing on the sea of glass in glory worshiping and celebrating before the throne of God.
Later, in 1000 years, they shall return to an earth made new, and this spiritual Israel them occupying the New Jerusalem coming out of heaven to the new Earth will be the fulfillment of all the prophecies regarding the return of Israel to the land. And thus also shall be fulfilled the promise of Jesus in Matthew, the meek shall inherit the earth.
For we have come unto the city that cannot be moved , cannot be shaken . The heavenly Jerusalem
who is mother to all who Beleive in The ONE TRUE CHRIST JESUS OF GOD .
Connected by THE SPIRIT are the sheep to this Kingdom . Where ye are not jew or greek
bond or free , but CHRIST is ALL and in all .
But oh yes , as you warned , we got us a harlot at work all right .
And she , like rebellious jerusalem did long ago , has led this people into great apostacy .
Marvel not that she can appear in wool as do her many prophets who do her bidding .
And she will sit atop the earthern Jerusalem and rage war against the saints who would not conform
to the love of a harlot . Her children will beleive they do the will of God , not knowing
it is NOT GOD but another one who has come in his own name and has created an image
of what IT says is GOD , IT says is loving , it says is love and it cliams has a peace plan of GOD
for to bring peace on earth . Oh but it be a liar and even has been called BY JESUS
the father of lies . An ecumenial harlot has captivated the world and her religoins my friend .
She be mystery babylon , the mother of all harlots and abominations .
And she has poured her inclusive cup of fornication upon the world .
 

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Prophecy from Daniel pinpointed 4 major literal local empires that would dominate and at times rule over God's people. Babylon, Medo- Persia, Greece, and Rome. A fifth power, growing from the head of Rome as a little horn, revealed as transition from literal local empires to global spiritual powers. This is detailed in Revelation where we see a beast rising up out of the sea having the spiritual characteristics of those former pagan powers. In the final days in which we now live there are but two powers. Both global. Both spiritual. Both claiming truth. One is called Jerusalem, the other Babylon. One is depicted in Revelation 12 as the chaste pure woman who have birth to the Messiah but was chased into the wilderness where she was persecuted. The second is depicted in Revelation 17. This woman, a harlot, who is fornicating with the kings of the earth and in union with them persecute the true woman of Revelation 12. Both women are spiritual religious entities. Churches. One true, one fallen. One faithful, one in apostasy. Neither of them are literal local Israel. But all of us must make personal individual choices as to which one we choose to give our loyalty. And the gospel shall be preached to all nations kindreds tongues and people, then shall the end come. And people shall be drawn out of all those nations, kindreds and tongues, including from literal local Israel, and they shall, after the second coming, become a part of the innumerable number of saints standing on the sea of glass in glory worshiping and celebrating before the throne of God.
Later, in 1000 years, they shall return to an earth made new, and this spiritual Israel them occupying the New Jerusalem coming out of heaven to the new Earth will be the fulfillment of all the prophecies regarding the return of Israel to the land. And thus also shall be fulfilled the promise of Jesus in Matthew, the meek shall inherit the earth.
You skipped the Seleucid Empire
 

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It was described numerous times in the scripture as a land “flowing with milk and honey” and “the beauty of all lands”.

Yes and before 1948 it was a desert wasteland - but that all changed when the Lord re-established Israel as the land itself was blessed by the Lord and it once again became a land “flowing with milk and honey” and “the beauty of all lands”


the second most fertile farmland in the world is Lancaster county, Pennsylvania. God gave this to the Amish!

Chapter and verse please from God's Word that says He gave Lancaster county, Pennsylvania to the Amish!


The restoration of modern Israel is a miracle that many deny because Israelis are not Christians.

Yeah, most Christians don't know that salvation thru Jesus Christ is to the Jew first and then to the gentile.

And that the Lord stands in desire for the Jews to come back to Him just like the Father in the account of the Prodigal Son. It angers the Christians, well the ones who don't know the heart of the Father not understanding God's promises concerning the descendants of Abraham are still honored by the Father.

It rankles Christians that Jesus is going to return to Israel when He returns to earth. Most of them seem to be racists towards the Jews. But then again the teaching from most churches / preachers is false doctrine these days so go figure.


Guess where Jesus will return.

That rankles all the tares ya know.
 
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Then why will Jesus FIGHT for Israel and DESTROY the Israel wannabees?

Jesus is going to fight those coming against Israel who are mostly moslems

Jesus won't be fighting what you falsely claim are fake Jews.


You need to look at yourself if you think those FALSE JEWS of the "synagogue of Satan" that Jesus identified are true Israel.

No need to fret, most claiming to be Christians today are actually tares from the same "synagogue of satan"
 

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Zechariah 14:2
2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;

Yes and when Jesus returns He will be uncorking some destruction on these people and the war against Israel will be over very quickly which is when they finally accept Him as their Messiah and they all get born again.


You mean the TOOTERS (Look at me) I'm Israel?

Oh, Jesus is going to whack all the racists so you might want to repent of the hate you have for the Jews (and any other groups you hate too) sooner rather than later. You on thin ice
 

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Yes and when Jesus returns He will be uncorking some destruction on these people and the war against Israel will be over very quickly which is when they finally accept Him as their Messiah and they all get born again.
And many will die attacking Israel, in the Land of the Bible.
Oh, Jesus is going to whack all the racists so you might want to repent of the hate you have for the Jews (and any other groups you hate too) sooner rather than later. You on thin ice
I love Jews and Jesus the King of the Jews! Maybe YOU should repent of that WHOPPER you just told about me.