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Platonism conflicts with the Gospel. Remember the first Christian heresy in Scripture, that Christ was a Spirit? The Gospel teaches a real man in a regular human body walked on water, died, was raised by God to life in a glorified body and physically ascended into heaven. It teaches a soulful experience - as well as spiritual. It’s not all types and shadows.
I suppose it depends on who holds the pen?

All I know is, if it rhymes with the OT, which we are told to use , and they searched the scriptures daily, and at that time all they had was the Torah? Psalms Prophets I thin half the sect left out, maybe Sadducees, while the Pharisees included them all?

ok time for nap bbl.
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I suppose it depends on who holds the pen?

All I know is, if it rhymes with the OT, which we are told to use , and they searched the scriptures daily, and at that time all they had was the Torah? Psalms Prophets I thin half the sect left out, maybe Sadducees, while the Pharisees included them all?

ok time for nap bbl.
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The Sadducees only regarded the Torah.

That was Jesus' wisdom to answer them from the Torah about the resurrection of the dead, citing "I am the God of your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob", then adding, God is not God of the dead but the living.

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Then you need to push those in Authority to FIGHT so the church is protected like a baby in the womb.
yea rather we need to put all hope and trust in GOD .
GOD is my helper and i shall not fear what man can do to me .
R unning to men and these politicans , this ecumeincal movement for peace n safety
is like running into a building on fire with hoses full of gasoline . IT aint g onna help
ITS ONLY gonna do massive damage .
THEY fight but for an agenda . The spout like a broken cistern whose waters be polluted .
The time is and more so than ever , TO CLING TO and HOPE ONLY IN GOD and thus IN HIS CHRIST .
Now to the trenches one and all .
 

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The Sadducees only regarded the Torah.

That was Jesus' wisdom to answer them from the Torah about the resurrection of the dead, citing "I am the God of your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob", then adding, God is not God of the dead but the living.

Much love!
The sadducees did as many do . THEY TWISTED what doctrine they thought they knew
into a swiss cheeze and pretzle omelet .
Most them leaders know only enough truth to make themselves a danger to themselves and all who
believed them . Sadly much like a lot of chrisetendom today .
AS if the saducees even followed or knew torah . Had they known torah , had they heard torah
Had they believed moses , had they had faith as did abraham , THEY HAD BELEIVED GOD
as did abraham . THEY had beleived moses words for HE SPOKE of JESUS .
when o when is this generation gonna figure out
THEY NO more knew torah than the GOD they claimed to know and to serve . AND JESUS exposed them all
as did their own works and own doctrines which were heavy on the precepts of men.
AGAIN much like most of christendom and its leaders and peoples who sit under such leaders .
OH it is bible time in the house all right .
AS if they ev en knew the very law they tried to teach and expound upon the people .
THEY no more knew the law or heard the voices of the prophets
than most in christendom even know the CHRIST OF GOD OR HIS LOVE or HIS GOSPEL and teachings .
MANY be the problems in the house and houses of many a christain place .
Not only do they not realize what christainity has lost , heck they dont even realize they are lost .
THEY TOO in love with another inclusive god and its version of love and of unity and of its peace plan .
Mark its wake up time in the house and warn i must and warn i shall .
 

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There are 2 kinds of works.
The works you do to earn salvation , which can't be done.
And works you do after you been saved which lean more towards doing things for others than for oneself.
Feed the hungry, pray for each other, these things are good works.
And these good works you do because of the faith that is in you. and not only faith but the love of God is in you.
1Ti 5:10
Well reported of for good works; if she have brought up children, if she have lodged strangers, if she have washed the saints' feet, if she have relieved the afflicted, if she have diligently followed every good work.

notice the works are for others.
actually that is a lovely reminder . SO TOO IS THIS ONE .
What would all those so called good works of doing for others even mean
FOR THE ONE who rejects and believes not THE TESTIMONY that GOD gave of HIS SON ,
THUS CALLING GOD A LIAR .
So all the lovey do and false efforts to love ones neighbor means absolultey DOO tha DOO
if one believes NOT JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD < IS THE CHRIST OF GOD
that HE DID pay the price of our sins , was crucfied and DID rise again the third day .
SO TAKE THAT ANTI CHRIST Ecumeincal interfaith intereligoius dialgoue .
SO easy to expose that dialgoue of anti christ it is for this sheep .
SO what on earth is all that so called lovey do , so called oh we love god we all serve the same god
gonna do for THEM ALL who ACTUALLY CALLED GOD A LIAR by not beleiving the TESTIMONY that HE gave OF THE SON .
AND what a DISHONOR that be to the SON .
MAN , exposing anti christ interrreligious dialgoue is so simple for a true sheep to do . HAVE YASELF A LOVELY night . sleep well .
 

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Unexpected, but not surprising. How you treat others, that's how you will treat me also, and wisdom is justified by her children.

Much love!
we all needs to be asking ourselves another question . This generation is so busy preaching a half truth
IT knows not THE WHOLE TRUTH .
And what be that . What is the number one that we were to have LOVED , TO have honored
to have treated HIS WORDS as the TRUTH they are . OH YEAH GOD , THUS JESUS CHRIST .
this generation is so busy trying to pander to how they ought to be treating one another ,
WHICH had been fine , CEPT they darn sure TREAT GOD like he be a liar , like his words are evil
LIKE his gospel is false . OH BOY mark , I SURE SAY we got many problems in the house .
Have a lovely night my friends . Just remember , I ALWAYS POINTED ONLY TO JESUS
and never gave out false ecumenical anti christ intefaith LIES . we better do us some weeping and wailing
and some heavy repenting . GOD IS MERCIFUL , HE WILL FORGIVE .
BUT unto all who decide to keep on that ecumeincal rail road to peridtion , JUST remember i did warn
and i did so outta love .
 
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Platonism conflicts with the Gospel. Remember the first Christian heresy in Scripture, that Christ was a Spirit? The Gospel teaches a real man in a regular human body walked on water, died, was raised by God to life in a glorified body and physically ascended into heaven. It teaches a soulful experience - as well as spiritual. It’s not all types and shadows.
I bet it aint the only thing that conflicts wtih THE GOSPEL .
YOU KNOW the one true gospel .
WHICH IS
YE MUST CONFESS JESUS IS THE CHRIST and believe FROM the heart GOD rose HIM from the dead .
ANY GUESSES on what contradicts that .
IF YA GUESSED ecumeincal intefaith interreligious dialgoue , YOU SPOT ON RIGHT my friend .
What a whopper of king pen LIE that one sold to the false religoins
as well as to christendom , WHEN IT FLAT OUT LIED to all of them
AND f lat out told them all , HEY we all worship the same GOD . MAKING FAITH , BELIEF IN JESUS
OF NO EFFECT .
SO add that TO THE MAJOR LIST of what contradicts the GOSPEL OF THE ONE AND ONLY JESUS CHRIST .
 

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Correct, I agree. I reject both works-righteousness and performance-based salvation.
someone asked a good question . THEY said what is faith without works . ITS DEAD . lip service dead faith
means nothing to GOD .
Now allow me a reminder as well .
SO too is all this l ovey do ya neighbor as yourself , IF WHEN FAILS TO HAVE FAITH IN JESUS . OH yeah
that be dead too . total proof one calls GOD a liar .
WHO calls GOD a liar . ready ...........................steady , HE WHO DOES NOT BELIEVE the TESTIMONY THAT GOD
gave OF THE SON . well that just seriously kicked interrelgious dialaogue of interfaith right in the teeth .
AS IT LIED TO ALL The false religoins as well as christendom
and say HEY KIDDOS we all serving the same GOD in diverse ways , HEY we all coming to him in different ways .
HEY we all serve the same GOD .
WELL the author of that mess DO serve the same god . ONLY IT AINT THE GOD .
 
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That wasn't directed at you, @amigo de christo
The other you quoted is on my ignore list. He could of asked, but he already knows it all.
My apology to you.
what is faith without works . DEAD .
Did paul agree with that . YOU BET , watch this
HE who provides not for his own , specially those of his own house , has DENIED THE FAITH and is worse than an infidel .
JAMES and Pual were not at odds at all . THEY BOTH KNEW and both served THE SAME JESUS CHRIST .
And i was once king of dead faith and lived in and enjoyed sin , while still cliaming to BELIEVE ON JESUS .
BOY was i lost and in darkness . THANK GOD he pulled me out of that mess
and drew me to the TRUE CHRIST and into the HOLY BIBLE to learn for myself .
 
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There is no peace between the world and the people of God......but that is not talking about war of the earthly kind.

The Israelites under the old covenant waged war against their pagan enemies..........because the gospel had not yet been revealed. Now we have spiritual weapons, which are more perfect weapons, a more perfect and better and more glorious way than the old way. The old way serves as an allegory/types/shadows for the spiritual war we are in.

Paul was very clear that if we are serving as soldiers in the army of God (spiritual) we are not to be entangled with civil affairs of this world if we want to please our commanding officer.

Like to add that in OT times when the Lord was King over Israel (also when David was king) God ordered wars were won and when Israel went to war without God's express permission those wars were lost.

That's not what OT war preachers like to hear.
 
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So,a war God turns passive in his issuance of a new covenant?

You may have noticed the world is more violent and depraved than ever now.

Sealed by the blood he shed on the cross.

And at the end of days,Armageddon,the terrible day of the Lord, all that what is foretold to arrive on Earth in Revelation, is what?
If God is no longer violent.

Because you like the OT so much :

Deut 32:35 Vengeance is mine, and recompense, for the time when their foot shall slip; for the day of their calamity is at hand, and their doom comes swiftly.’

Not ours.
 

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Idiot, fix your own grammatical English issues before trying to edify me by your ignorance. That is, on the scale of idiots, imbeciles, and morons. Join the ignore-way ist-lay.

Matt 5:22 But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.

You like to live dangerous brother ?
 

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The Israelites under the old covenant waged war against their pagan enemies..........because the gospel had not yet been revealed. Now we have spiritual weapons, which are more perfect weapons,
Utter nonsense on many levels. Not every problem is a nail. Not every solution is a hammer. Violence solves problems. Always has. Always will. This is why Jesus flipped over tables and whipped at people, etc.

You got to get in touch with the real world, which always has been and always will be ruled by the effective use of force. This is why violence is the very first thing Christ will do upon his 2nd Coming.
 

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That's not true.


Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.


The Midianites,Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites,among many others,we're not types or shadows when slaughtered by God and his armies.
Exactly
Idiot, fix your own grammatical English issues before trying to edify me by your ignorance. That is, on the scale of idiots, imbeciles, and morons. Join the ignore-way ist-lay.
You learn quickly who the thorns are here.
Seems like someone here has "fallen from grace" as per Galations, sadly.
We don't know too much about this relatively new poster.
 

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The day of judgement?

That occurs when we die. That occurs also in what God prophesied , predestined,as that what is written in Revelation.

We are being judged every single day by God.

Don't be deceived.

We are not living in an age of grace,as if that means God will not,does not,show ,pour out, his wrath today.

Our age of grace is God's calling whom he will into his salvation. Opening their heart and mind to hold faith in him and live righteously.

Opponents of the eternal irrevocable gospel of salvation disparage it by claiming such a covenant is a license to sin.

Proving,they don't read nor respect the Bible.

However,the idea that we are living in an age of grace is tantamount to saying the same thing. That we here today,in this age,are not under God's judgement.

When that is simply not true.

This is an age of Grace because it is the age when,after the cross,because of its power,God is calling sinners to his faith and eternal irrevocable salvation.

Age of grace does not mean we all are not accountable for our behaviors. Be we the
redeemed
or sinner.

This is proven when saints and sinners alike are judged after this life.

Sinners judgement is a given.They lived and died in their sins because God made them for to be vessels of wrath. Their names were not in His Book. As he says.

Ours are. And we will be judged as we exemplify the effects his Salvific grace and what it instilled in us in this life.

So,we aren't living outside of
God's notice. Nor his judgement today.

You might consider, what happens to us in life is both God's judgement so to set us aright. And God's rewards when we are doing things right.

And it is all an opportunity to put the teachings from his indwelling spirit into action. To show we are paying,praying,attention.
Not just walking through life assured of our eternal destiny.

That is the meaning of our works are synonymous with our salvation. They don't secure it. Jesus did that irrevocably on the cross.

Rather,work shows we are saved because we now know the things of God. And serve his kingdom in his name as one with him.

“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.” 2 Corinthians 5:10
Hope you aren't equating taking up swords and killing people with works of faith/spirit?? That is a work of the flesh. We're supposed to be dead to this world and its strifes.

God is longsuffering the world's evil in this age before the final judgment. Though He is still involved in the world's affairs, watching over and ruling. Judgment begins with His house, in the chastisements/discipline we suffer being loved as sons.
 

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Utter nonsense on many levels. Not every problem is a nail. Not every solution is a hammer. Violence solves problems. Always has. Always will. This is why Jesus flipped over tables and whipped at people, etc.

You got to get in touch with the real world, which always has been and always will be ruled by the effective use of force. This is why violence is the very first thing Christ will do upon his 2nd Coming.
The Lord is very capable of allowing or sending any "wounding" through various means, according to His wisdom and will, but the church is the binding up crew. Unless we think killing and maiming are fruits of the Spirit.
 
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The Lord is very capable of allowing or sending any "wounding" through various means, according to His wisdom and will, but the church is the binding up crew. Unless we think killing and maiming are fruits of the Spirit.
Today in much of the churches the forecast is lukewarm with the threat of annihilation lest repentance do occur .
Probability one hundred percent that on JESUS day
all who denied him whether in lip and in heart or in heart gonna wail .
But i have real good news . That depends on the whether . as in whether or NOT they repent .
For all who do so , GOD is full of mercy and will forgive but unto all who refuse
Grave danger of the raining down of fire and brimestone . Now on those feet
and let all march onwards in the glorious LORD . For upon all who recieve HIS testimony
of the SON, SHALL GOD rain down mercy and forgiveness
but unto all who recieve NOT the testimony that GOD gave of the SON , well that forecast is
fire and brimestone .
 
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Hope you aren't equating taking up swords and killing people with works of faith/spirit?? That is a work of the flesh. We're supposed to be dead to this world and its strifes.

God is longsuffering the world's evil in this age before the final judgment. Though He is still involved in the world's affairs, watching over and ruling. Judgment begins with His house, in the chastisements/discipline we suffer being loved as sons.
We are entering into the phase of the ecumenical realm
wherein it is and has been now preparing minds for a crusade .
This crusade they will beleive is of GOD
and is necessary for to attain world peace n safety .
But what they do not know and what they cannot discern is
THIS coming crusade will be the great crusade of the inclusive god
who lied to them all by means of a false love , false unity , false finding common ground
and will come against all that simply did not and would not conform to the image
of this so called god and its peace plan .
Now if in any way that sounds like that which is of anti christ and that the religoins and deceieved within
christnedom are being prepared for the great hour of the beast and to come full force against the true saints ,
IF it in any way seems like this , WELL GOOD , cause this is exactly why this isbeing done and prepared .
And the sheep aint gonna buy it . For the sheep have bought the TRUTH and shall sell her not .
 
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