Christian Nationalism

[amigo de christo]

What a loving reply.

Not.

What would you say if i told you that what we are witnessing
is the shift . phase one was and is the eucmenical phase of inclusive interfaith
wherein they gather the false reli goins and decieved within christendom
to merge as one . And have produced a god that all can beleive is GOD and iS LOVE
and to heed its plan for how to attain world peace and peace in the middle east .
And now phase two was to also prepare their minds and make them ready
for a greatest of all crusades to now come against all who did not and would not conform
to this other god and its inclusive love and its plan of peace for the world .
CAUSE that is what you be witnessing my friend .
Phase one is to infiltrate from within , both christendom and yes the false religoins .
WHICH they did . And break down fundamental core values
And liquify the truth by means of a false love of the world and ideas of what we have in common
and to overlook our differences . Which really meant
GET RID OF ALL DOCTRINE that would contradict any other religoin as well as offend those in sin .
THEY DID THIS . they called it love and claimed it was of GOD .
Now they make ready the minds for a great crusade to come against any and all who did not
JOIN IN . Someone has been lying to this world , and to all .
DO i really need to tell ya who that someone is .
Let us just say a hint is HE was mentioned as being in the garden
and it was he who first said to EVE , HAS GOD REALLY said .

 

[Ziggy]

What a loving reply.

Not.

 

[Wrangler]

We're supposed to be dead to this world

That’s why Jesus came down from heaven to heal the sick and feed the hungry!

 

[Wrangler]

Unless we think killing and maiming are fruits of the Spirit.

Not at all. Not all problems are nails sister. Not all solutions are hammers. It’s like you don’t recognize Jesus being the king of kings is a political leader who will kill upon his return as the first order of business.

 

[Lizbeth]

Today in much of the churches the forecast is lukewarm with the threat of annihilation lest repentance do occur .
Probability one hundred percent that on JESUS day
all who denied him whether in lip and in heart or in heart gonna wail .
But i have real good news . That depends on the whether . as in whether or NOT they repent .
For all who do so , GOD is full of mercy and will forgive but unto all who refuse
Grave danger of the raining down of fire and brimestone . Now on those feet
and let all march onwards in the glorious LORD . For upon all who recieve HIS testimony
of the SON, SHALL GOD rain down mercy and forgiveness
but unto all who recieve NOT the testimony that GOD gave of the SON , well that forecast is
fire and brimestone .

If only the church would wake up to its grave errors and acknowledge its sins, the Lord would send revival and heal our land. That's all He asks, only acknowledge it! And He would do the rest and rain down His Spirit. Instead they dig in and double down on their error. But this was foreseen and foretold to be so in the end of the age. There is a latter rain coming, I believe, but it will only involve a remnant, and the rest will persecute the remnant.

 

[Lizbeth]

That’s why Jesus came down from heaven to heal the sick and feed the hungry!

Yes, there is no law against doing good...........which is not the same thing as being entangled with the affairs and strifes of this world. Jesus told someone to even let the dead bury their own dead, but you come follow me.

Congratulations for being a completely sold out victim of Satan's distraction and derailing campaign. Or perhaps you haven't yet received Christ to start with.

 

[Lizbeth]

Not at all. Not all problems are nails sister. Not all solutions are hammers. It’s like you don’t recognize Jesus being the king of kings is a political leader who will kill upon his return as the first order of business.

Oh I suspect we will see plenty of people killing each other and destroying the earth unfortunately.......iniquity and transgression come to the full.......and the lake of fire is the consuming fire that He IS, when He comes in all His unveiled glory that will burn them up like the hottest sun on the clearest of days with no speck of shade and no cleft of the Rock to be sheltered in because the Master will have arisen and shut to the door.

 

[Lizbeth]

When did this occur in the history of the new testimony
of faith?
How many crusades did the church pursue?

Beating swords into ploughshares occurs in the heart of each believer upon becoming a new creature in Christ......working in the harvest fields instead of waging war.

The real church of Jesus Christ has never engaged in crusades of the fleshly kind, only spiritual crusades for the saving of souls, not the killing of any.

Yes,may he open them that turn from the history God established in the beginning.

For,the blind today do not see the rainbow appeared after God drowned all the world for 40 days and nights.

Sorry that you did not understand the point.

 

[Lizbeth]

Why do you single out the American "church" and not others clearly the same?

I do not single out the American church at all......was replying to a post that was referring to the American church in that instance. All of "Christendom" is in the exact same situation as far as I can see.

 

[Lizbeth]

Ridiculous Jewish superstition.

If you fear taking His name in vain, just use the word God in a way that is not in vain.

The name of God is not God, that is His title.

Ever heard a preacher say “G hyphen d” or “G dash d”?

Reminds me of Jesus talking about those who worship God with rules made up by men.....having only an appearance of righteousness.

 

[marks]

I do not single out the American church at all......was replying to a post that was referring to the American church in that instance. All of "Christendom" is in the exact same situation as far as I can see.

Christendom . . . I see that as "social/cultural expression of Christianity" while not being Christian, not the true church. Is that how you use the word?

Much love!

 

[PS95]

Lizbeth, I want to elaborate on that point.

Governments are part of the Powers and Principalities of This Age, which means they technically belong to the Enemy. Governments and the men and women who run them have their own agendas which may or not align with Christ's agenda. We should be VERY careful in making alliances with the Powers That Be, keep our eyes open, and try to limit their power with no illusions about our ability to control them. They know how to use us; we only think we know how to use them.

Lambano,
No no no. This has to be corrected.
The definition of principalities and powers in the scriptures is not man or government but are spiritual forces from the heavenlies. "principalities and powers" is in the NT 6 times and 5 of them are clearly spiritual powers.
Eph 6:12, Col 1:16, Col 2:15, Eph 3:10-11, Ro 8:37-39.
The one time it is used for governments it says this--
Remind them to be subject to rulers, to authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good deed,- Titus 3:1

Obviously, they are not to be confused. I grew up with this nonsense.
Why would we be told to honor, be in subjection to, pay tribute, respect, to satan's forces as we are told in Romans 13:7?

Romans clearly states that government is appointed by God-and we are to obey them as long as they don't make a law against God's will.. then we don't obey that. ( gay marriage, abortion, etc) Too many people like to ignore that.
Romans 13:1-2
while THAT may be hard to believe, God uses people in whatever way He wants towards His purposes. He is sovereign. So- a godless people will root for a godless president- and they cry out when a president with any morals is in power and Visa versa.
Proverbs 29-
2When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice;
But when a wicked man rules, the people groan.

Prov 28:12- When the righteous triumph, there is great glory, But when the wicked rise, men hide themselves

Prov 28:16 A ruler who lacks understanding is a great oppressor, But he who hates covetousness will prolong his days.

Prov 11:10When the righteous thrive, the city rejoices, and when the wicked perish, there are shouts of joy.

We are to pray for our leaders- so that we can live in peace. Instead Christians here just bash them, and hide under a rock never lifting a finger to help the nation thinking they are tooooo holy to vote. Cut me a break..

 

[Lizbeth]

And that's the rationalism developed by secularism. Everybody is mentally ill; face it. Priests and pastors are replaced in society with health care workers specializing in the area of false science, psychology. The healthcare system has been weaponized by whatever authority that is paid by whatever elected or appointed official. Those institutions make billions from labeling people mentally ill rather than criminal. Mention G-d, for example, and a person can quickly find themselves in a mental institution for evaluation; "detained" is the word of the day. No criminal filings, just civil, and everybody, to their financial benefit, joins the bandwagon motto, "Well, the authorities must have had a good reason," which benefits them to the tune of billions of dollars; meanwhile, insurances are billed to the benefit of these institutions, and because no criminal charges are pressed, the crime rate appears to be lower. Secular priests or shrinks are not only "essential" but nothing more than witches and sorcerers making excuses to preserve and celebrate the lives of the wicked or "those lost souls" or simply depraved rather than separating those souls from the body and leaving that for the mercy of G-d.
And why would you insinuate persecution of the victim? To prove that victimization is the cause of all those lost souls? And to suggest that Sporous could have hypothetically grown up and, because of his abuses and ongoing behavior if freed from sex slavery, been justified? It is obvious why, to me, the pericope adulterae (Johannine) is missing from older manuscripts.
I am not pretending to know best; that's what people do today. Everybody believes man knows best and offers humanistic solutions, and that entails that man knows best. G-d commanded, and people are disobedient and know best. The same causes always have the solution. I have no doubt you are nobody's judge. Let others discern and do what is righteous. Believe it or not, righteous actions do exist. Last question, how are you going to cast out demons when not even the Apostles could at the closing of the revelatory process? How about attacking the gates of hades rather than promoting universalism?
While I believe rationalism is a major issue today, there's obviously no edification that comes about against the emotional, feely types.
Everybody has a good reason. Your charge is no different than the spies that returned and spread a bad report. It caused rebellion and disobedience to what G-d commanded. And they were dealt with by ordinary means.

What I was talking about doesn't justify anyone, but they are mitigating factors that I believe a righteous judge (or onlooker) would take into consideration. In any case it is not for us to judge/condemn, lest we ourselves be judged. Jesus does have compassion for man's "helpless estate" in a sin-sick world. Nobody gets saved because they deserve to be. Jesus said He came not to condemn but to save......shouldn't we be of the same mind? And who is without sin cast the first stone.

Heb 4:15
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

 

[Lizbeth]

Christendom . . . I see that as "social/cultural expression of Christianity" while not being Christian, not the true church. Is that how you use the word?

Much love!

yes, I'm extending the term to the nations that once considered themselves to be "Christian" and who followed Christian principles, at least in the main......having been strongly leavened/influenced by the gospel and bible.

 

[Lizbeth]

Last question, how are you going to cast out demons when not even the Apostles could at the closing of the revelatory process?

Strange how signs still follow the preaching of the gospel then. I assume you've never seen any.

How about attacking the gates of hades rather than promoting universalism?

No idea what you mean by this........I'm not a universalist.

 

[Gray_Joy]

Beating swords into ploughshares occurs in the heart of each believer upon becoming a new creature in Christ......working in the harvest fields instead of waging war.

The real church of Jesus Christ has never engaged in crusades of the fleshly kind, only spiritual crusades for the saving of souls, not the killing of any.

You don't know what you're talking about.

Sorry that you did not understand the point.

No need to apologize.
I'm thankful I don't rewrite the Bible as some choose to because they prefer to create God in an image they prefer.

 

[Gray_Joy]

Hope you aren't equating taking up swords and killing people with works of faith/spirit?? That is a work of the flesh.

I don't believe any reasonable person could arrive at your supposition when reading my post.

We're supposed to be dead to this world and its strifes.

But,you're not.

God is longsuffering the world's evil in this age before the final judgment. Though He is still involved in the world's affairs, watching over and ruling. Judgment begins with His house, in the chastisements/discipline we suffer being loved as sons.

His adversary remains ,by his will,lord of this world.
A lord who is only capable of being and exercising his power if God allows.

You might consider that.
Satan is lord by God's permission here.

 

[Ziggy]

 

[Anchorite]

Satan is lord by God's permission here.

Wrong. Only Jesus is Lord, no one else.



For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” (Romans 10:12–13)


For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living. (Romans 14:9)


Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist. (1 Corinthians 8:6)

 

[Gray_Joy]

Great video.

Unfortunately, it,like the Old Testament itself,will be irrelevant to New Testament faithful.