Preachers of the Lesser Riddle

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WalterandDebbie

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It is worldly to go on and on about the objects of bread and figs and temples, when the subject is Christ. Object vs. Subject. Simple enough. And you can spot them even here on Christianity Board. Look for them. Understand just where they're coming from--understand that they themselves don't even understand.

Even every prophetic future event. Is God Himself really going on and on about worldly things? No, but heavenly. And yet you see these sort of lessor riddles being preached here too. So worldly. So sad. Such a disservice actually.

Everything written points to God--whatever it seems to be about--but God speaks, and the scriptures are written, in parable fashion, as so many object lessons, mostly not about the object, but having a completely different subject. On earth as it is in heaven--yes, that is a prayer and a promise--but only given here in likeness. It's a form of teaching--teaching children. But the riddles are already given, given that we might learn what God is really getting at--not that we should imagine and elaborate great worldly fulfillment. If that were the case, Jesus would have prayed "On earth as it is on earth."

Meanwhile, such teachers of the lesser riddles should be understood for what they are, and avoided. Seek God--not the object fulfillment of worldly examples.
Good morning, Brother Scott. Great post, pheartprywpryw, Love always, Walter
 

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As I have said already, I quoted you (lying). Your own words are enough. I said that too.
Like I said, you are just making accusations without backing it up. I didn't lie to you. Or about you. That's your defense, but not in truth. You double down on it, but without substance.

This seems to be a virus on this forum, all too many members do this sort of thing.

Scott, it doesn't have to be this way.

Much love!
 

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Like I said, you are just making accusations without backing it up. I didn't lie to you. Or about you. That's your defense, but not in truth. You double down on it, but without substance.

This seems to be a virus on this forum, all too many members do this sort of thing.

Scott, it doesn't have to be this way.

Much love!
By the same measure you use (declaring your own words as quoted to be "without substance") it will be measured back to you.

Did you think such words from God were said in jest? They were not. God and anyone who cares to read of it, knows what you said. The matter is in His hands. It is enough.
 

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By the same measure you use (declaring your own words as quoted to be "without substance") it will be measured back to you.

Did you think such words from God were said in jest? They were not. God and anyone who cares to read of it, knows what you said. The matter is in His hands. It is enough.
This could be a simple thing but you will not allow that to be. That's on you.
 

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You're offended. That too is biblical. But you are defending that which is worldly and those who do the same.

Meanwhile, no, Jesus is not returning physically any more than the temple should be thought of as being built of stone again.
Well as the bible says you are of the antichirst because you deny Jesus will physically return

1 JOhn 4:3

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Because "come" is 2nd perfect, accusative, participle, it is better translated in English as "coming". Jesus promised He would come back and He will.

The garden of Eden and the expulsion,
The flood
 

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Well as the bible says you are of the antichirst because you deny Jesus will physically return
1 JOhn 4:3:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Because the word "come" is 2nd perfect accusative, participle, it is better translated in English as "coming" especially in light of verse two . Because you deny- you have the spirit of antichrist as God openly declares.

The garden of eden and the expulsion
Teh vlood
the tower of babel
the confusing of languages
the breakup of the continents after Babel
David and Goliath
Jonah and the fish
Jesu death and resurrection
Jesus physical ascension in to heaven,
the destruction of the temple in 70AD
the diaspora from 132-135

These are all real and historic events that we can learn personal applications from, but not to the diminishing of the events themselves.

The rapture
the one world government
the ten rulers
the antichrist'
the seals, the trumpets, the bowls
all their judgments.
Teh death and resurrection of the antichrist
the false prophet
the image of the beast
the mark of the beast
the campaign of armeggedon
the physical return of Jesus

These are all real physical future events that will take place, and we can leanr personal lessons from these as well without diminshing their realities.

I urge you to repent of your denial that Jesus is physically returning. God explicitly says the spirit in you is the spirit of antichrist!

Let me ask an earnest question. What do you believe is required to avoid the lake of fire and spend eternity with Jesus in heaven?
 

ScottA

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Well as the bible says you are of the antichirst because you deny Jesus will physically return

1 JOhn 4:3

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Because "come" is 2nd perfect, accusative, participle, it is better translated in English as "coming". Jesus promised He would come back and He will.

The garden of Eden and the expulsion,
The flood
Because you misunderstand you also wrongly accuse me.

On the contrary, I do not at all deny that Jesus "came" in the flesh. You lied--and it is you, not me--who denies that Jesus is "come" in the flesh. On the contrary--I say that He also "is come!" But you obviously do not know the difference--not unlike most of Christendom. And yet, there it was clearly stated all along. :(

What John said of the anti-Christ and Jesus "is come"--was (present tense) after the cross, not before. Not shall come as you believe, but "is come." In other words, Jesus "came" before going to the cross, and it is only after He ascended that He "is come" in the flesh--which by definition, means He returns into the flesh of His body--saying "Take eat this is my body" symbolizing His giving His body to the church; and "Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me."

"Take eat", "dine"--by no coincidence--the words are the same. But you did not hear or see what the Spirit said to the churches.

And therefore, here we are again, not unlike Israel--wrong and accusing. For which I also pray, "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do."
 
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1 JOhn 4:3:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Because the word "come" is 2nd perfect accusative, participle, it is better translated in English as "coming" especially in light of verse two . Because you deny- you have the spirit of antichrist as God openly declares.

The garden of eden and the expulsion
Teh vlood
the tower of babel
the confusing of languages
the breakup of the continents after Babel
David and Goliath
Jonah and the fish
Jesu death and resurrection
Jesus physical ascension in to heaven,
the destruction of the temple in 70AD
the diaspora from 132-135

These are all real and historic events that we can learn personal applications from, but not to the diminishing of the events themselves.

The rapture
the one world government
the ten rulers
the antichrist'
the seals, the trumpets, the bowls
all their judgments.
Teh death and resurrection of the antichrist
the false prophet
the image of the beast
the mark of the beast
the campaign of armeggedon
the physical return of Jesus

These are all real physical future events that will take place, and we can leanr personal lessons from these as well without diminshing their realities.

I urge you to repent of your denial that Jesus is physically returning. God explicitly says the spirit in you is the spirit of antichrist!

Let me ask an earnest question. What do you believe is required to avoid the lake of fire and spend eternity with Jesus in heaven?
Because you repeat-- a double portion then. Amen