Be Careful of the wolves in sheeps clothing

[Ronald Nolette]

So, you think you being half-right, that "flesh and bone" can inherit the kingdom?

Wrong. Half-wrong is wrong.

"Flesh and bone" are the dust elements of this earth of which it is written "the dust will return to the earth as it was" (which I said before), and "the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat." Go figure--"by the mouth of two or three witnesses the matter shall be established!"

It is established.

And those dust elements were physically resurrected in Jesus and ascended. You have no biblical warrant to believe otherwise.
Even at the end of time all souls will be reunited with their bodies. At the rapture the dead saints will be reunited with their glorified bodies. That is Scripture. To believe otherwise denies Jesus is the God/man and first fruits of the resurrection.

You hold to a variant of the JW belief that Jesus did not physically ascend in to heaven and that His body somehow just magically disappeared.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Wow! Again, you even quote the passages, then deny them again returning to the ways of mere men.

As for Paul, he submitted himself to the church, but also called Peter out on his church error, not unlike the error that Jesus had called out Peter out on before as well, for thinking as a man. But even Peter knew that “We ought to obey God rather than men."

But apparently, you do not.

Thus, knowing no better, you turn again to be the accuser after the pattern of Satan.

And you0 once again open you rmouth and intentionally lie about my beliefs.

Paul did submit ot the leadership of the early church. But you probably reinterpreted theWord of God on this to make it the word of god according to Scott A.

Paul went to the council of jerusalem
He also went to Peter
He also submitted to the leadership in antioch when God told the leaders to seperate Paul and Barnabbas.

And yes we must obey god rather than men, when men alter the Word of God or twist it to their own destruction, or reinterpret it to place themselves above the Word

 

[ScottA]

And those dust elements were physically resurrected in Jesus and ascended.

Oh...how wrong...and you don't even see it. That is not biblical!

 

[ScottA]

Paul went to the council of jerusalem
He also went to Peter

I went to God in the third heaven.
I also went to the church--including you.

But the church is corrupt, the result of false teachers, as was Israel with false Priests--both of whom have done horrible things against God and were in need of correction, which God has provided.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Oh...how wrong...and you don't even see it. That is not biblical!

So you do not believe Jesus was physically resurrected from the dead in the body that went to the cross?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I went to God in the third heaven.
I also went to the church--including you.

But the church is corrupt, the result of false teachers, as was Israel with false Priests--both of whom have done horrible things against God and were in need of correction, which God has provided.

Sorry but tthe gates of hell will not prevail against the church. If yuo0 are outside of fellowship- you are not being blessed by God.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Oh...how wrong...and you don't even see it. That is not biblical!

Well let me quote Paul. If you do nto believe that jesus rose again from the dead in teh same body He died in,as Paul said:
1 Corinthians 15:14-17

King James Version

14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

as for His ascending in His resurrected glorified body:

Acts 1
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3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:
4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I went to God in the third heaven.
I also went to the church--including you.

But the church is corrupt, the result of false teachers, as was Israel with false Priests--both of whom have done horrible things against God and were in need of correction, which God has provided.

If you had goen to teh third heaven like PAul, you would not be such a heretic.

You would believe in teh bodily resurrection and ascencion.
You would believe the church is still faithful (not Christendom but Christianity) There always has been a faithful remnant.
YOu would believe in the supremacy of the Word of God and not create new doctrine as you do.
Paul was commissioned to be an apostle to the Gentiles, you are not.
After Paul;s experience, He went on missionary journeys to spread the gospel. what are you doing?

Why should we believe you over the many others who claim many of the same things you do and are false teachers.

You have yet to list any of the false doctrines you claim the church has had over the centuries. So far that is just a vapid claim.

YOu deny the physical ascencion.
You seem to deny the physical resurrection in the same body Jesus died in.
You claim teh bible is not the final and sole authority for believers on earth. To quote you " it only goes so far."
You do not believe God said exactly what He meant, but men need to go to you to find the real truth, or as you call it, the "higher spiritual meaning".

There are many personal applications we can learn from teh OT, gospels and acts, but that does not negate the literal truths.

It is more important to know God destroyed the world with a real flood than any personal applications we can draw from it . These are personal applications for an individual and not some secret meaning.

If you wish to be even taken quasi seriously- list the false doctrines you say the church has adopted., other you are just blowing hot air.