3 End-times spiritual princes. Will they bring 3 antichrists?

[6 Stories]

Spiritual Prince 1 - The Prince of Rome - Daniel 9:26-27 " Is an antichrist associated with the prince of Rome?
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

Is there an end-times antichrist associated with the prince of Rome?


Spiritual Prince 2 - The Prince of Greece - Daniel 11:38 "38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things."
An antichrist seems to be associated with the prince of Greece. Daniel 8:23 "23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up."
Antiochus IV seems to fit the historical standard for the antichrist.

Will there be another 'little horn' or antichrist empowered by the prince of Greece as was Antiochus IV?


Spiritual Prince 3 - Gog of Magog - Ezekiel 38:2 "2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him"

Will Gog's horde have an earthly king and will he be an antichrist?

Will all 3 of these spiritual princes exercise authority during the end-times?
Will they work through separate human antichrists?

 

[6 Stories]

I believe all 3 spiritual princes or heavenly beings are different, and each will affect the end-times in different ways.

The prince of Rome. In history, this prince stirred up Roman leaders, including Titus who destroyed Jerusalem in the first century.
In the future, I believe the prince of Rome will stir up new leaders led from Rome that will again reign over Jerusalem. This is pictured in the 2 feet with 10 toes (10 human leaders) in Daniel and over the 10 human leaders will be another human. The 7th head/beast/antichrist is the 7th king of Revelation 17:10. "And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space." The short space will be 3.5 years. This will be the time of peace and safety found in 1 Thes. 5:3 "For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."

The sudden destruction or travail will then last for a separate period of 3.5 years, the period of great tribulation. The little horn of Dan. 7:8, the king of the North (Assyria) under control of prince of Greece from Dan 11:40, also known as the 8th king of Rev 17:10-11 will begin his reign over the new Roman Empire by removing the twice daily Jewish animal sacrifice and setting up the abomination of desolation. This second antichrist will be the one most people have in mind when they mention antichrist, although he is usually blended to last 7 years with the first antichrist above.
Dan 7:8 "I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things."
Dan 11:40 "And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over."
Rev 17:10-11 "And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. 11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition."

Gog, the spiritual prince of Magog from Ezekiel 38 will influence a region from Turkey through Iran in the north and east along with some African nations in the south. Originally, he will rise up against the Assyrian, antichrist #2. Dan 11:44-45 "44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many. 45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him."

The final events: The Assyrian, antichrist 2, will take over Israel (the Glorious Land - Dan 11:41) and Egypt (Dan 11:42). He will be on the verge of taking over the Libyans and Ethiopians (Dan 11:43). News from the east (Iran/Persia) and the north (Turkey/Magog) will trouble antichrist #2, so he will turn back from conquering the Libyans and Ethiopians and will come to his end in Israel Dan11:44-45). Compare these countries with those under control of Gog/Rosh in Ezekiel 38. Ez. 38:2 Magog, Rosh, Meshach, Tubal. Ez 38:5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya align with Gog. Ez 38:6 Gomer and Togarmah also align with Gog. The regions from Ezekiel that align with Gog are identical to the regions of Daniel which alarm antichrist 2 and combined with the regions that antichrist 2 was ready to attack. Under Gog, no 3rd antichrist is mentioned. Gog leads the people under his influence to "the mountains of Israel" in Ez 38:8. In the end, the people under the new Roman Empire plus the people of Assyria and Egypt, together with the people under the influence of Gog will all gather together in Armageddon to fight against Jesus upon his return. Rev 16:16 "And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon."

Do you agree that this will be the influence of the 3 end-times spiritual 'princes?'

 

[Douggg]

I believe all 3 spiritual princes or heavenly beings are different, and each will affect the end-times in different ways.

They are not spiritual beings, but men.

The little horn person goes through 5 stages (highlighted on the chart in blue) on his path to his detruction. One of the stages is that of being the Antichrist.

 

[The Light]

Spiritual Prince 1 - The Prince of Rome - Daniel 9:26-27 " Is an antichrist associated with the prince of Rome?
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

Is there an end-times antichrist associated with the prince of Rome?


Spiritual Prince 2 - The Prince of Greece - Daniel 11:38 "38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things."
An antichrist seems to be associated with the prince of Greece. Daniel 8:23 "23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up."
Antiochus IV seems to fit the historical standard for the antichrist.

Will there be another 'little horn' or antichrist empowered by the prince of Greece as was Antiochus IV?


Spiritual Prince 3 - Gog of Magog - Ezekiel 38:2 "2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him"

Will Gog's horde have an earthly king and will he be an antichrist?

Will all 3 of these spiritual princes exercise authority during the end-times?
Will they work through separate human antichrists?

No such thing as the prince of Rome.

The people of the prince that shall come will destroy the 3rd Temple that is yet to be built.

 

[David in NJ]

Spiritual Prince 1 - The Prince of Rome - Daniel 9:26-27 " Is an antichrist associated with the prince of Rome?
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

Is there an end-times antichrist associated with the prince of Rome?


Spiritual Prince 2 - The Prince of Greece - Daniel 11:38 "38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things."
An antichrist seems to be associated with the prince of Greece. Daniel 8:23 "23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up."
Antiochus IV seems to fit the historical standard for the antichrist.

Will there be another 'little horn' or antichrist empowered by the prince of Greece as was Antiochus IV?


Spiritual Prince 3 - Gog of Magog - Ezekiel 38:2 "2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him"

Will Gog's horde have an earthly king and will he be an antichrist?

Will all 3 of these spiritual princes exercise authority during the end-times?
Will they work through separate human antichrists?

The "god of fortresses" is could very well be Islam/Allah/Mohammud

a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up."

When we add "fierce countenance and understanding dark sentences it takes on a deeper meaning that could be Nethalim.

@TLHKAJ - What do you think?

 

[ScottA]

Spiritual Prince 1 - The Prince of Rome - Daniel 9:26-27 " Is an antichrist associated with the prince of Rome?
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

Is there an end-times antichrist associated with the prince of Rome?


Spiritual Prince 2 - The Prince of Greece - Daniel 11:38 "38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things."
An antichrist seems to be associated with the prince of Greece. Daniel 8:23 "23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up."
Antiochus IV seems to fit the historical standard for the antichrist.

Will there be another 'little horn' or antichrist empowered by the prince of Greece as was Antiochus IV?


Spiritual Prince 3 - Gog of Magog - Ezekiel 38:2 "2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him"

Will Gog's horde have an earthly king and will he be an antichrist?

Will all 3 of these spiritual princes exercise authority during the end-times?
Will they work through separate human antichrists?

Hello 6'

Unfortunately you are referring to a popular understanding to the meaning with your first question about a Prince of Rome. You are not alone, that belief is shared by most of Christendom.

However, Daniel himself gives a better understanding before Chapter 9 and also after, which itself is also misunderstood. So, the first thing needed is to understand that many have been wrong about a lot of things regarding what is true. Israel for instance, after centuries of having God's initial word, and much study, were so wrong they crucified Christ. If we--if you--can start there with zero credit given to men and there studies and beliefs, then perhaps we can have a profitable discussion.

Assuming you can, here is what Daniel prefaced and also summarized Chapter 9 and his 70 weeks prophecy with:

Daniel 7:25​

He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand For a time and times and half a time.​

Daniel 12:7​

Then I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand to heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever, that it shall be for a time, times, and half a time; and when the power of the holy people has been completely shattered, all these things shall be finished.​

"A time, times, and half a time" was Daniel's way of telling us what he was going to tell us about, and then also afterward, tell us what he just told us. Which, if you are not familiar, is a public speaking model even to this day.

The point is--Daniel's own summary--is the same as the seven days of creation (as God's own preface) speaking of all the history of the world. Meaning, when Gabriel told Daniel "Seventy weeks are determined for your people..."--he meant since Adam!

The prophecy then goes on foretelling of the Messiah coming and taking away the daily sacrifice in the middle of the seven time, by fulfilling it.

And with that correction, considering the princes, should come out differently.