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Matthias

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From my X / Twitter “For you” feed this evening -

“U.S. States Ranked by Number of Mosques & Islamic Centers

California - 313
Texas - 283
New York - 194
Florida - 181
Illinois - 171
Michigan - 157
Pennsylvania - 155
New Jersey - 152
Virginia - 131
Minnesota - 114
Ohio - 107
Georgia - 106
North Carolina - 96
Maryland - 93
Washington - 79
Massachusetts - 76
Missouri - 57
Indiana - 55
Connecticut - 53
Tennessee - 50
Arizona - 47
Kentucky - 42
Louisiana - 42
Wisconsin - 39
Alabama - 32
Colorado - 31
South Carolina - 30
Iowa - 25
Nebraska - 21
Mississippi - 20
Kansas - 20
Delaware - 18
Arkansas - 15
Nevada - 14
Utah - 14
New Mexico - 11
Oklahoma - 10
Idaho - 9
Rhode Island - 7
West Virginia - 7
Maine - 7
New Hampshire - 6
North Dakota - 6
South Dakota - 5
Wyoming - 3
Vermont - 2
Montana - 2

Total: 3,128

Read that number again.

This should terrify every American.”


She’s terrified. If you’re an American, she wants you to be terrified. Should Christians living in America be terrified?
 

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She’s terrified. If you’re an American, she wants you to be terrified. Should Christians living in America be terrified?

No I'm not terrified. But it's good to be aware of what's happening in the country. Right now there is a Muslim running for the Senate in Michigan. Once they have enough numbers, they will support Shari'a courts. And I'm sure the liberals will go along with that, not realizing the danger.

There are many Imans and Muslims that say Islam will takeover the West. So wake up people. Vote accordingly.
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No I'm not terrified. But it's good to be aware of what's happening in the country. Right now there is a Muslim running for the Senate in Michigan. Once they have enough numbers, they will support Shari'a courts. And I'm sure the liberals will go along with that, not realizing the danger.

There are many Imans and Muslims that say Islam will takeover the West. So wake up people. Vote accordingly.
@Ziggy @mailmandan @Scott Downey

Opportunity to evangelize Muslims is happening in the country.
 
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Yes that's true. But still we need to be wise and vote accordingly.

From my X / Twitter “Following” feed two days ago -

“I’ve been blacklisted from churches for sharing how to evangelize Muslims.

That’s how bad Texas is doing right now.

I’m praying people will realize how important a role an educated church will play. …”


Christians are looking for politicians to save them from the rising tide of Islam.
 

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The same terrified woman (post # 121) is promoting another solution:

”Every mosque in America needs to be demolished and turned into a military base.”

 

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Christians are looking for politicians to save them from the rising tide of Islam.
I'm not against churches teaching how to evangelize Muslims. But we must vote too as Muslims are running for office. They will institute Shari'a if they can.
 

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I'm not against churches teaching how to evangelize Muslims.

No Christian should be.

But we must vote too as Muslims are running for office.

Politicians caused the problem. Politicians aren’t the solution to the problem. It’s a spiritual problem, and it requires a spiritual solution.

They will institute Shari'a if they can.

When they do, and you know it’s going to happen more and more frequently, then what?
 

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No I'm not terrified.
These damn pacifists try every trick to seduce one to abandon a prudent, virtuous life. Here, a naked Appeal to Emotion. Only if we admit being "terrified" is our acting prudently in the face of physical danger warranted, only if we confess we have no faith in God, etc. etc. So pathetic!
 

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These damn pacifists try every trick to seduce one to abandon a prudent, virtuous life. Here, a naked Appeal to Emotion.

The appeal in post # 121 is from a Trump supporter; a woman who isn’t a pacifist.

Only if we admit being "terrified" is our acting prudently in the face of physical danger warranted, only if we confess we have no faith in God, etc. etc. So pathetic!

I don’t know if the woman has faith in God or not.

I’m opposed to what she wants. Christians should not be terrified.
 

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From my X / Twitter “For you” feed this evening -

“U.S. States Ranked by Number of Mosques & Islamic Centers

California - 313
Texas - 283
New York - 194
Florida - 181
Illinois - 171
Michigan - 157
Pennsylvania - 155
New Jersey - 152
Virginia - 131
Minnesota - 114
Ohio - 107
Georgia - 106
North Carolina - 96
Maryland - 93
Washington - 79
Massachusetts - 76
Missouri - 57
Indiana - 55
Connecticut - 53
Tennessee - 50
Arizona - 47
Kentucky - 42
Louisiana - 42
Wisconsin - 39
Alabama - 32
Colorado - 31
South Carolina - 30
Iowa - 25
Nebraska - 21
Mississippi - 20
Kansas - 20
Delaware - 18
Arkansas - 15
Nevada - 14
Utah - 14
New Mexico - 11
Oklahoma - 10
Idaho - 9
Rhode Island - 7
West Virginia - 7
Maine - 7
New Hampshire - 6
North Dakota - 6
South Dakota - 5
Wyoming - 3
Vermont - 2
Montana - 2

Total: 3,128

Read that number again.

That’s (part of) the mission field for American Christians.


The clip is less than three minutes in length. The message is spot on.

Should Christians living in America be terrified?

No. Christians living in America should be excited, should be energized, to carry out the Great Commission.
 

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The appeal in post # 121 is from a Trump supporter; a woman who isn’t a pacifist.



I don’t know if the woman has faith in God or not.

I’m opposed to what she wants. Christians should not be terrified.

I’ve learned since writing this that Gina Milan is a Catholic. It doesn’t in any way alter my repudiation of her “naked Appeal to Emotion”.

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An unidentified author, presumably a Catholic, rebuked her.
 

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That’s (part of) the mission field for American Christians.


The clip is less than three minutes in length. The message is spot on.



No. Christians living in America should be excited, should be energized, to carry out the Great Commission.
You want to bring your Bible into this crowd?
You think they will listen?

 

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You want to bring your Bible into this crowd?

I don’t go anywhere without it.

You think they will listen?


Violent mobs - Muslim or non-Muslim - don’t listen for long.

The adventures of Paul come to mind as an example of that.

Muslims are still part of the Christian’s mission field. Do you disagree with that?
 

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Who among them does God not want to be saved? Who among them doesn’t need to hear the gospel, believe, and repent?

Whether they accept or reject the heralding of the gospel isn’t the responsibility of the Christian.

The responsibility of the Christian is to herald the message. That’s how disciples of Jesus are made. That’s how enemies of the Messiah are made his friends.
 

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These damn pacifists try every trick to seduce one to abandon a prudent, virtuous life.

You’ve said publicly on this platform that one of your favorite Christian authors is the well-known pacifist, C.H. Spurgeon; known as - which you yourself have confirmed - ”The Prince of Preachers”. (In my opinion, the best preacher which Protestantism has ever produced. He is a major figure in my own spiritual formation, and I still read him regularly to this day.)

If you succeed in persuading anyone that Spurgeon tried “every trick to seduce one to abandon a prudent, virtuous life” then you will have done so without them ever knowing what Spurgeon himself actually preached.
 

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Who among them does God not want to be saved? Who among them doesn’t need to hear the gospel, believe, and repent?

Whether they accept or reject the heralding of the gospel isn’t the responsibility of the Christian.

The responsibility of the Christian is to herald the message. That’s how disciples of Jesus are made. That’s how enemies of the Messiah are made his friends.
They outright reject Jesus as Messiah. They outright claim he is only a prophet and Muhamad is the last prophet and Allah is their god.

It's not like they haven't heard.

Are there muslims that come to Christ? Yes there is.
Should we share the gospel with them? Yes we should.
Now Islamists have already chosen whom they serve.
I wouldn't have a problem one on one with a muslim, but definately not a crowd of Islamists.
 

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They outright reject Jesus as Messiah.

The Quran unequivocally states that Jesus is the Messiah. If a Muslim challenges you on it, be prepared to show it to them in their book.

They outright claim he is only a prophet and Muhamad is the last prophet and Allah is their god.

Yes.

It's not like they haven't heard.

They haven’t all heard. And even those who have heard don’t fully understand without receiving further instruction. That’s the normal and routine part of the discipling process for everyone.

Are there muslims that come to Christ? Yes there is.
Should we share the gospel with them? Yes we should.
Now Islamists have already chosen whom they serve.

All Muslims are Islamists until they convert.

I wouldn't have a problem one on one with a muslim, but definately not a crowd of Islamists.

Then that’s what you should do. (I pray for your success.) Leave it to others to speak with them in a crowd situation.