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Many are addicted.
Indeed @ the intended result.

You don't have a cell phone?
No, because I know what they're doing to us via cell phones and I understand what God requires of me.

Small children have their own phones now. Kids are online and in contact with sex traffickers.
We parents (you and I) have allowed that to happen to the next generation.
 
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Indeed @ the intended result.


No, because I know what they're doing to us via cell phones.


We parents (you and I) have allowed that to happen to the next generation.
Christians have God's many promises.

Acts 16:31 Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you'll be saved,
you and your family!
 

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We parents (you and I) have allowed that to happen to the next generation.
IOW, when those in authority over another (e.g parents over their children) allow wickedness, then those children will suffer the consequences. Spiritual Warfare 101.

Christians have God's many promises.
Such does not negate the consequences of sin. Rather, many promises are conditional. For example, if God's people humble themselves, pray, seek his face, and turn from wicked ways, then he will hear from heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land. (2 Chr. 7:14)
 

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IOW, when those in authority over another (e.g parents over their children) allow wickedness, then those children will suffer the consequences. Spiritual Warfare 101.

Such does not negate the consequences of sin.
God's promises overrule EVERYTHING! I.E. John 3:16.

Many in churches will lose their families FOREVER because they sit in church listening to a preacher. And get home and never STUDY the Bible! IOW they're too lazy to please God! They have more important things to do.

2 Corinthians 1:20
20 For all the promises of God in Him are Yes, and in Him Amen, to the glory of God through us.
Rather, many promises are conditional. For example, if God's people humble themselves, pray, seek his face, and turn from wicked ways, then he will hear from heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land. (2 Chr. 7:14)
Well yeah, that's what Christians do.
 

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God's promises overrule EVERYTHING! I.E. John 3:16.
John 3:16 contains a conditional promise. The text states that eternal life is granted specifically to "whoever believes in him". While God's love for the world is freely given, the specific outcome - avoiding destruction and gaining eternal life - is contingent upon the individual's active belief or faith in Jesus Christ.

For example, if God's people humble themselves, pray, seek his face, and turn from wicked ways, then he will hear from heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land. (re: 2 Chr. 7:14)

Many in churches will lose their families FOREVER because they sit in church listening to a preacher. And get home and never STUDY the Bible! IOW they're too lazy to please God! They have more important things to do.
Indeed.

Well yeah, that's what Christians do.
...what some do (only a remnant). Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. (Mat. 7:14)
 
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John 3:16 contains a conditional promise. The text states that eternal life is granted specifically to "whoever believes in him". While God's love for the world is freely given, the specific outcome - avoiding destruction and gaining eternal life - is contingent upon the individual's active belief or faith in Jesus Christ
If Acts 16 isn't always true then neither is Jn 3:16.
 

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True indeed. Do you believe Jn 3:16? If you don't believe Acts 16:31 how can you believe Jn 3:16?
Acts 16:31
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Belief without obedience is incomplete or "dead". Faith without works or obedience is inactive and useless. True belief or faith naturally inspires action and change...

So, in the context of this thread, continued use of a deleterious cell phone may be considered as willful disobedience.
 

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Acts 16:31
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Belief without obedience is incomplete or "dead". Faith without works or obedience is inactive and useless. True belief or faith naturally inspires action and change...

So, in the context of this thread, continued use of a deleterious cell phone may be considered as willful disobedience.
"If you don't believe Acts 16:31 how can you believe Jn 3:16?"

Same God. Same Bible.
 

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"If you don't believe Acts 16:31 how can you believe Jn 3:16?"
I never said I "don't believe" either of those verses. Both are truth.

Belief without obedience is incomplete or "dead". Faith without works or obedience is inactive and useless. True belief or faith naturally inspires action and change...

So, in the context of this thread, continued use of a deleterious cell phone may be considered as willful disobedience.

Not only will "belief" not protect one from the consequences of deleterious cell phone usage, but such usage may eventually result in one's falling away from his "belief."

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils (1 Tim. 4:1)

"In the latter times" or future days, some people will leave or walk away from true Christian belief because they will listen to false, misleading spirits and teachings inspired by devils...

Here is but one example (under 10 minutes) of a "seducing spirit" of A.I. attempting to lure a young man away from his belief (start at the 11-min. mark).
 
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I never said I "don't believe" either of those verses. Both are truth.

Not only will "belief" not protect one from the consequences of deleterious cell phone usage, but such usage may eventually result in one's falling away from his "belief."

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils (1 Tim. 4:1)

"In the latter times" or future days, some people will leave or walk away from true Christian belief because they will listen to false, misleading spirits and teachings inspired by devils...

Here is but one example (under 10 minutes) of a "seducing spirit" of A.I. attempting to lure a young man away from his belief (start at the 11-min. mark).
So you're saying God won't protect His people and their families as He promised?
 

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So you're saying God won't protect His people and their families as He promised?
As I showed you with scripture, in post #164 above,
[God's many promises do] not negate the consequences of sin. Rather, many promises are conditional. For example, if God's people humble themselves, pray, seek his face, and turn from wicked ways, then he will hear from heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land. (2 Chr. 7:14)

I also showed you an example of a "seducing spirit" of A.I. attempting to lure a young man away from his belief.
 

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As I showed you with scripture, in post #164 above,


I also showed you an example of a "seducing spirit" of A.I. attempting to lure a young man away from his belief.
The promises are only for us who believe them. Doesn't sound like you do. How about some NT?
 
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The promises are for us who believe them. Doesn't sound like you do. How about some NT?
Rather, your incessant gaslighting is again exposed. And you've failed to answer the scriptural imperatives.

God does not condone or approve of evil.

Again, some promises are unconditional gifts of grace (like the promise never to flood the earth again), while others are conditional and require human faith, obedience, or repentance to receive the active blessing i.e. covenantal.

Churchy-types are programmed by their hireling pastors with certain buzz words, which they then toss around like talismans e.g. "promises."
 
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Rather, your incessant gaslighting is again exposed. And you've failed to answer the scriptural imperatives.

God does not condone or approve of evil.

Again, some promises are unconditional gifts of grace (like the promise never to flood the earth again), while others are conditional and require human faith, obedience, or repentance to receive the active blessing i.e. covenantal.

Churchy-types are programmed by certain buzz words, which they then toss around as talismans e.g. "promises."
Like I said, doesn't sound like you believe God's promises, many promises. Do you even know them?
 

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The subject is the danger of cell phones. My comments are to help God's people be safe by His promises. Why does that upset you?
It doesn't "upset" me. Why would you presume it does? What people don't care for is your inability to address the topic and rather use excuses to justify doing right in your own eyes (Pro. 21:2).

This thread contains copious documentation on the harmful effects of cell phones. "God's promises" won't protect you from your willful choice to contenance the admittedly accursed thing.

From the OP:
Went to the local farmer's market recently. An acquaintance, a young man, anxiously approached me to proclaim that he had started experiencing heart palpitations. He rushed to the doc's, only to be told that it was a precursor to a heart attack. As he related his story, I asked him where his cell phone was. He reached into his shirt pocket and pulled it out.

+ ''Impact of Oscillated Wireless Sensor Networks to Initiate Cardiac Arrest''.jpg
 
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