After your born again do you think you will never sin again?

[Jack]

plus @Jack

Basically, here are two "works" from scripture that all can do even if disabled.

1 John 5:18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.

You sin. Everybody sins. Some confess and are forgiven!

1 John 3:3 And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.

 

[CrowCross]

plus @Jack

Basically, here are two "works" from scripture that all can do even if disabled.

1 John 5:18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.

I think continue to sin is a better translation. You can see that here. I would think it refers to a continued lifestyle of sin.
Then again maybe it means what Paul was saying....17 In that case, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

1 John 3:3 And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.

From what I understand hope in Christ produces an on going pursuit of holiness. Do you agree?
Believers do not cleanse themselves to earn salvation or keep salvation. Are you saying the blood of Christ doesn't cleanse us from sin?

 

[CrowCross]

You sin. Everybody sins. Some confess and are forgiven!

Are you saying if you sin from day to day and don't confess your new sins then you're not forgiven of that sin or sins?

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Paul was saying....17 In that case, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

Hi CC,

I'll repeat myself that reading Romans 7 in CONTEXT (not yelling, just emphasizing LOL) starting at verse one shows it was to those who "know the Law" of Moses (Jews). You have posted this verse out of context again. Again, verses 14-25 are not about Christians because Christians are not in the flesh and are free from sin. CC, read the previous chapter 6 and the one following: 8. The Old Covenant is over as shown in verses 5-6. Removing the desire to commit lawless sin is taken out of our nature when we are born again of the powerful Spirit of God. And Jesus said, "you must be born again.

From what I understand hope in Christ produces an on going pursuit of holiness. Do you agree?

Of course. But it is Jesus that does that work in us and the Author and Finisher of our faith, not we on our own. All we have to do once we've repented and been born again where Jesus has taken away the desire to commit the worst of 2 types of sin that makes us the lower level of purity called righteousness (that which type the previous Catholics knew about before the Reformation, and all Protestants do not), is to keep abiding in Him. Walk in the Spirit consistently and next, during a long process (not called sanctification, but glorification, that again Protestants believe is after we die. Oy veh! But you are in luck if you are open to the scriptures that tell the truth.) And in answer to your question, Jesus doesn't stop at making us righteous with the righteousness of Christ, not our own. His righteousness in us is not a "cover up of our sin" it is the power to not sin. CC, that is what no Protestant nor Catholic teaches. Holiness is what Jesus' goal is for all of us. "Be perfect as my Father in heaven is perfect. That is the higher level of purity, and takes the longest time by Jesus as the Finisher of our faith, but it is just maturing in all the fruit of the Spirit. They are important because those who do not bear fruit are taken away and burned.

Believers do not cleanse themselves to earn salvation or keep salvation. Are you saying the blood of Christ doesn't cleanse us from sin?

I believe what you do too. But seeing as Protestants published the first Bibles I think there has to be some error in translation. I just looked up the Greek and it is comparable to "once pure keep yourself pure." I'd say that's a big boo boo in the way they published it, don't you? At least that is how I interpreted the literal "on him purifies himself as that one pure is."

 

[CrowCross]

Hi CC,

I'll repeat myself that reading Romans 7 in CONTEXT (not yelling, just emphasizing LOL) starting at verse one shows it was to those who "know the Law" of Moses (Jews). You have posted this verse out of context again. Again, verses 14-25 are not about Christians because Christians are not in the flesh and are free from sin. CC, read the previous chapter 6 and the one following: 8. The Old Covenant is over as shown in verses 5-6. Removing the desire to commit lawless sin is taken out of our nature when we are born again of the powerful Spirit of God. And Jesus said, "you must be born again.


Of course. But it is Jesus that does that work in us and the Author and Finisher of our faith, not we on our own. All we have to do once we've repented and been born again where Jesus has taken away the desire to commit the worst of 2 types of sin that makes us the lower level of purity called righteousness (that which type the previous Catholics knew about before the Reformation, and all Protestants do not), is to keep abiding in Him. Walk in the Spirit consistently and next, during a long process (not called sanctification, but glorification, that again Protestants believe is after we die. Oy veh! But you are in luck if you are open to the scriptures that tell the truth.) And in answer to your question, Jesus doesn't stop at making us righteous with the righteousness of Christ, not our own. His righteousness in us is not a "cover up of our sin" it is the power to not sin. CC, that is what no Protestant nor Catholic teaches. Holiness is what Jesus' goal is for all of us. "Be perfect as my Father in heaven is perfect. That is the higher level of purity, and takes the longest time by Jesus as the Finisher of our faith, but it is just maturing in all the fruit of the Spirit. They are important because those who do not bear fruit are taken away and burned.

I believe what you do too. But seeing as Protestants published the first Bibles I think there has to be some error in translation. I just looked up the Greek and it is comparable to "once pure keep yourself pure." I'd say that's a big boo boo in the way they published it, don't you? At least that is how I interpreted the literal "on him purifies himself as that one pure is."

I'll stick with the protestants. Catholics get a lot wrong. They get a lot right....but as I said they get a lot incorrect.
The reformation fixed a lot of their problems.

You are right, Jesus doesn't cover our sins but REMOVES our sins. All of them, past, present as well as future.