Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

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esus coming immediately AFTER the tribulation? Doesn't Jesus have to end the tribulation with the armies of heaven in your view?

Why is Jesus gathering the elect after the tribulation. Shouldn't they be gathered before the tribulation is over.........in your view?
Jesus comes during the tribulation, before the great tribulation begins

There has always been tribulation in the world..
 
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o. Jesus descends to a cloud (Revelation 14:16).
This happens at the 6th seal. These are Jews being raptured.
o. He reaps at the 7th ("last" of seven) trumpet (1Thessalonians 4:15-17).
No trumpets in 1 Thes 4:15-17. That is the trump of God or voice of God. I think you mean 1 Corinthian 15. The last trump is blown on the Feast of Trumpets by a man.
o. He returns with an army to the plain of Megiddo (Revelation 16:16).
The gathering from heaven and earth occurs at the 6th seal. The Church is gathered from heaven, and the 12 tribes are gathered from the earth. All return to heaven for the marriage supper and are the great multitude in Rev 7. The great multitude remains in heaven during the one year wrath of God. At the end of a year the armies of heaven follow Jesus to Armageddon.
 

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Jesus comes during the tribulation, before the great tribulation begins

There has always been tribulation in the world..
Jesus comes before the great tribulation for the Church.
He comes at the 6th seal for the 12 tribes immediately after the great tribulation.
The 7th seal is opened and the one year wrath of God begins.
 

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There are only two witnesses they are the olive trees and the candlesticks there is only one church
"Olive trees, lampstands" compares the two witnesses to Zerubbabel (governor) and Jeshua (high priest), who led rebuilding of the OId Testament temple (Ezra 5:2). It was destroyed by the Romans in 70 A.D., because of Jewish rebellion.

This comparison suggests the two witnesses similarly lead the rebuilding of the Jewish temple.
 
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