are you claiming faith AND works are required to be & or remain saved ?
In that case has Paul got it wrong in :-
Titus 3:5-7, Eph 2:8-9, Gal 2:16, Rom 3:28, Rom 4:5, Rom 5:1
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In that case has Paul got it wrong in :-
Titus 3:5-7, Eph 2:8-9, Gal 2:16, Rom 3:28, Rom 4:5, Rom 5:1
2 peter 2:20
Theres only one way for someone to escape the pollutions of the world amd thats Through a Lord AND Savior Jesus Christ..
But like the servant in luke 12:45 he falls back to his old life being Overcome he is Now Worst off than at the begining when he was an unbeliever.....
21) its better to not have known the way of RIGHTEOUSNESS than to have KNOWN IT and turn from it.... why? Because the fallen believer gets beatin with MANY BEATINGS where the unbeliever get FEW BEATINGS
Theres only one way for someone to escape the pollutions of the world amd thats Through a Lord AND Savior Jesus Christ..
But like the servant in luke 12:45 he falls back to his old life being Overcome he is Now Worst off than at the begining when he was an unbeliever.....
21) its better to not have known the way of RIGHTEOUSNESS than to have KNOWN IT and turn from it.... why? Because the fallen believer gets beatin with MANY BEATINGS where the unbeliever get FEW BEATINGS
Geeez what does it say? Eph 2:8 is one thing for the servant who stays the course and another for the servant who does not... cant you understand the servant in 43-44 is the same one in 45? With 2 different outcomes?
I didnt say to be and to stay were the same thing
""You have a brain yes?""
Then start using yours
are you claiming faith AND works are required to be & or remain saved ?
In that case has Paul got it wrong in :-
Titus 3:5-7, Eph 2:8-9, Gal 2:16, Rom 3:28, Rom 4:5, Rom 5:1
whome, YES or NO ?
Do you claim faith AND works are required to be & or remain saved ?
Yes or no.... is the servant in v43-44 the same servant in v45?
Yes or no is one word peter
As per my first post I state that eph2:8 is one thing and remained (servant phase) is another
So your answer is YES
whome has to have works otherwise whome is not saved.
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Whome rejects Titus 3:5-7, Eph 2:8-9, Gal 2:16, Rom 3:28, Rom 4:5, Rom 5:1
Whome rejects the Apostle that Christ selected Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13. Rom 15:16
Whome rejects that ALL the Apostles agreed that Paul is Apostle to whome Gal 2:7-9
Peter again I didnt say that so lets get one thing clear first
YES OR NO is the servant in v43-44 that gets reward and the servant in v45 the same servant? With a chance for 2 different outcomes?
Yes or no is ONE WORD
Are you a Paul denier ?
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ETERNAL rewards for believers eternally saved 'today' is covered by Paul :-
Rom 14:10, 1 Cor 10:15, 2 Cor 5:6-10
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Luke does NOT teach how you & I are ETERNALLY saved/rewarded
Christ UNIQUELY gave that role to Paul - Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16
ALL the Apostles agreed Gal 2:7-9
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First you need to accept that Paul is your ONLY Christ chosen Apostle
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Peter.... YES OR NO...
when v45 says
BUT if THAT SERVANT.... is THAT SERVANT the same servant as v 43-44?
Until you answer this why muddy the waters with other questions or people for that matter... so Im only talking to peter for now
YES OR NO
when v45 says
BUT if THAT SERVANT.... is THAT SERVANT the same servant as v 43-44?
Until you answer this why muddy the waters with other questions or people for that matter... so Im only talking to peter for now
YES OR NO
So you don't know who your Christ appointed Apostle is to teach you Salvation
Acts 9:15 Paul is
Rom 11:13 as above
Rom 15:16 as above
Gal 2:7-9 as above
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Crystal clear water, no mud
Peter YES OR NO..
Why is it you wont answer this?
Again why muddy the waters with new questions without first solving this question?
Thats the exact reason no one solves anything on here is because they go with many questions or verses and never solve just one... so is BUT AND IF THAT SERVANT in v45 refering to the servant in v43-44?
I think by not answering you really have... because it clearly shows a servant who is serving the master (doing works of a servant vs one who does not has 2 different endings meaning osas is false.... let it be noted this servant has gone completely back to his old life that he had Before he was saved....
Maybe it was wrong of me.to ask if you had a brain..... but since Ive asked about 5 or 6 times YES OR NO and you havent been able too comply with such a simple question....
YES OR NO?
Why is it you wont answer this?
Again why muddy the waters with new questions without first solving this question?
Thats the exact reason no one solves anything on here is because they go with many questions or verses and never solve just one... so is BUT AND IF THAT SERVANT in v45 refering to the servant in v43-44?
I think by not answering you really have... because it clearly shows a servant who is serving the master (doing works of a servant vs one who does not has 2 different endings meaning osas is false.... let it be noted this servant has gone completely back to his old life that he had Before he was saved....
Maybe it was wrong of me.to ask if you had a brain..... but since Ive asked about 5 or 6 times YES OR NO and you havent been able too comply with such a simple question....
YES OR NO?
Taken
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Everyone has FREEWILL to proclaim their standing, without your permission, consideration or liking.
The Scripture is clear…
You adding to Scripture and not noticing the difference between Lord AND lord is noted…
The teaching is about “DOING your JOB, whether or not your master’s Eyes are watching you, regardless of WHO is your master.
( nothing to do with being SAVED )
Luke 12:
[42] And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?
[43] Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
[44] Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.
[45] But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken;
[46] The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.
[47] And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
[48] But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.
Taken
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Luke 12:42-48
43-44) the servant is saved (eph 2:8) and when the Master comes (rapture) and finds that servant (doing works of a servant) he is blessed
45-46) BUT IF THAT SERVATE instead falls back to his old life (before he was saved) the master comes (rapture) he will be cut asunder (left not taken) and NOW he is apointed with the unbelievers.
Is the servant in v45 the same servant being mentioned in v 43-44
YES OR NO?
yes or no is 1 word btw..........
Taken says: nothing to do with being SAVED
WHO ME replys... who else can it be other than Jesus who appoints this person with the unbelievers?
Still waiting on peter and taken to answer a plain and simple YES OR NO - just 1 word period....
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Taken
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So you wont answer it the same as peter?
V45 and v43-44 are the same servant YES OR NO?
I know if you say NO your know thats not true but if you say YES it shows osas isnt true.... so be careful and a simple YES or NO and nothing else..... then we can move on to another question....
V45 and v43-44 are the same servant YES OR NO?
I know if you say NO your know thats not true but if you say YES it shows osas isnt true.... so be careful and a simple YES or NO and nothing else..... then we can move on to another question....
We know in v42 thru 46 is Jesus cause in v40 Jesus gives a warning to be ready for his coming..
And if your doing the work of a servant your rewarded but if not your apointed with the unbelievers
So it does have everything to do with being saved
And if your doing the work of a servant your rewarded but if not your apointed with the unbelievers
So it does have everything to do with being saved
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