Biblical Support For Soliciting Prostitutes

[marks]

Doesn’t say anything about prostitution, only the conditions to leave parents. I hope you‘re not equating a wife to a prostitute?

Leaving AND cleaving, not just leaving. The "cleaving" is to "his wife" singular. And you are told to not join yourself to another, and in particular, a prostitute.

1 Corinthians 6:15-16 KJV
15) Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
16) What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

How much more clear does this need to be?

 

[Wrangler]

How much more clear does this need to be?

How much clearer does Paul have to make it that this is his opinion AND not a command from God?

 

[marks]

How much clearer does Paul have to make it that this is his opinion AND not a command from God?

It's difficult for me to imagine why you are so dedictated to justify prostitution, and having sex with people other than your wife.

Jesus - not Paul - Jesus taught that God, from the beginning, intended a man to be joined to his wife, and that's it:

Matthew 19:4-6 KJV
4) And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5) And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6) Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Perfectly clear . . . 2 become 1, not, 3 become 1, or 8 become 1.

Paul taught to not be joined to an harlot, no "this is just my opinion".

1 Corinthians 6:15-20 KJV
15) Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
16) What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
17) But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
18) Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
19) What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20) For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

So you either obey this or you do not. And that's on you.

 

[Titus]

How much clearer does Paul have to make it that this is his opinion AND not a command from God?

Can Paul have an opinion on morals that oppose God?
Paul's "opinions" are never human speculation.

1Corinthians 7:25,
- now concerning the question of virgins I have no command from the Lord, but I give my opinion as one who has experienced the Lords mercy to be trustworthy NET bible

KJV uses judgment.

Paul is giving his apostolic judgment not human speculation.
All of Paul's writings are recognized as Scripture.
2Peter 3:15-16,
- even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you
as in all his epistles...which they that are unlearned wrest as they do also the rest of the scriptures unto their own destruction

Paul's judgment was from the Holy Spirit. Everything he taught was scripture.

 

[JimKnox]

How much clearer does Paul have to make it that this is his opinion AND not a command from God?

Why must you kick against the pricks?
ALL Scripture us given by INSPIRATION OF GOD and is profitable for DOCTRINE, for reproof, for correction, FOR INSTRUCTION IN RIGHTEOUSNESS:

I don't know how you can find any wiggle room here.

"Yea hath God said???

 

[Wrangler]

Can Paul have an opinion on morals that oppose God?

<sigh> Moving the goal posts. If God does not prohibit something then it is allowed. It being allowed doesn't mean it is ideal or optimum. Take Jesus talking about cannibalism is John 6, that led to even his disciples leaving him in v 66. Saying something that causes even disciples to leave is not ideal but doesn't mean it is a sin to say, right?

 

[Titus]

Moving the goal posts. If God does not prohibit something then it is allowed.

Yes, but God also teaches when He is silent. So if you understand how God authorizes what is permitted and what is not then you will understand how to rightly divide the Scriptures.
I dont believe you do know how to rightly divide. You can know.

 

[Lambano]

That’s what I thought it meant

A "whoremonger" is the pimp, not the John.

 

[Lambano]

 

[Lambano]

@Wrangler What is the purpose of this thread? I certainly hope you aren't planning on using a prostitute! And therefore trying to justify it.

 

[Lambano]

 

[RLT63]

This is like using Numbers 5 to justify abortion

 

[RLT63]

A "whoremonger" is the pimp, not the John.

In the Bible it can refer to either
AI Overview







whoremonger
/ˈhôrˌmäNGɡər/
A whoremonger is an archaic and vulgar term for a client of a sex worker, a lecher, or a pimp. [1, 2]

Definition and Meaning

• • Literal meaning: A person who consorts with whores or deals in prostitution. The suffix -monger comes from an old word for a trader or dealer. [1, 2, 3]
  • Current status: The word is rarely used today. When it does appear, it is usually meant to criticize someone for sexual immorality or to reference older texts. [1]
  • Synonyms: Whoremaster, lecher, womanizer, pimp, or fornicator. [1, 2, 3]

Biblical Context

• • King James Bible: Older translations like the King James Bible use the word "whoremonger" to translate the Greek word pornos. [1, 2]
  • Meaning in Scripture: In the New Testament (such as in Ephesians 5:5), pornos broadly refers to a person who engages in sexual immorality or has sex outside of marriage, rather than strictly denoting a prostitute's client. [1, 2]
  • Modern translations: Most modern Bibles replace the word with clearer phrases like "sexually immoral person" or "fornicator". [1, 2]

 

[Lambano]

King James Bible: Older translations like the King James Bible use the word "whoremonger" to translate the Greek word pornos.

Hmm.

πόρνος STRONGS G4205:
πόρνος, πορνου, ὁ (for the etym. see πόρνη), a man who prostitutes his body to another's lust for hire, a male prostitute, ((Aristophanes), Xenophon, Demosthenes, Aeschines, Lucian); universally, a man who indulges in unlawful sexual intercourse, a fornicator.

Monger:

A monger is a dealer, trader, or promoter, often used in combination with another word to specify what is being sold or spread. ​

Fishmonger – a person who sells fish, a neutral or respectable usage​

One of the local seafood places here is named "Fishmongers". Good to get in a plug for one of the better ones here in an area not known for its seafood.

 

[Lambano]

πόρνος STRONGS G4205:
πόρνος, πορνου, ὁ (for the etym. see πόρνη), a man who prostitutes his body to another's lust for hire, a male prostitute, ((Aristophanes), Xenophon, Demosthenes, Aeschines, Lucian).

I hope the OP isn't planning on becoming one of those. Sheesh, I know inflation's pretty high these days, and sometimes you need a side hustle to bring in a little extra cash, but c'mon, there's better ways to do it.

Little Joe never once gave it away
Everybody had to pay and pay
A hustle here and a hustle there
New York City is the place where they said

[Chorus]
"Hey babe, take a walk on the wild side"
I said, "Hey Joe, take a walk on the wild side"
- Lou Reed

 

[RLT63]

Hmm.

πόρνος STRONGS G4205:
πόρνος, πορνου, ὁ (for the etym. see πόρνη), a man who prostitutes his body to another's lust for hire, a male prostitute, ((Aristophanes), Xenophon, Demosthenes, Aeschines, Lucian); universally, a man who indulges in unlawful sexual intercourse, a fornicator.

Monger:

A monger is a dealer, trader, or promoter, often used in combination with another word to specify what is being sold or spread. ​

Fishmonger – a person who sells fish, a neutral or respectable usage​

One of the local seafood places here is named "Fishmongers". Good to get in a plug for one of the better ones here in an area not known for its seafood.

I think we agree that God doesn't condone having sex with prostitutes

 

[RLT63]

The OP sounds like an attempt to justify what they have already done.
JMHO

He's started some weird threads lately. I don't understand the thinking behind this one

 

[JustMe]

<sigh> Moving the goal posts. If God does not prohibit something then it is allowed. It being allowed doesn't mean it is ideal or optimum. Take Jesus talking about cannibalism is John 6, that led to even his disciples leaving him in v 66. Saying something that causes even disciples to leave is not ideal but doesn't mean it is a sin to say, right?

Is your spirit unsettled or restless? Are you experiencing a crisis? If so, allow someone to pray with you for healing. Everyone sometimes needs a spiritual healing remedy.

Bluntly...For God's sake, if you are especially a true believer with the gift of the Spirit of Christ within you, your spirit is most certainly telling you that being involved in sinful acts, such as having relations with a prostitute is wrong. If you ignore this warning, as many have done and will do, please repent of it in your heart, even if it has already gone further. been committed in the body.

Struggling and attempting to find a "legal" or so-called logic argument and loophole in matters of clear sin is a fool's errand. I would recommend that you abandon this lost cause and seriously pray about it.

 

[Wrangler]

I think we agree that God doesn't condone having sex with prostitutes

We can agree that the Bible does condone having sex with prostitutes as the OP identified. And we can also agree that Paul wrote about an ideal while admitting his preferred ideal is NOT the command of God. See the difference?

He's started some weird threads lately. I don't understand the thinking behind this one

See post #31

Struggling and attempting to find a "legal" or so-called logic argument and loophole in matters of clear sin

Obviously not a matter of "clear sin" in the citations of the OP, where having sex with a prostitute is the morally superior option. Better to do X than Y is not calling X a "clear sin." Can you admit this, at least?

 

[Wrangler]

Is your spirit unsettled or restless? Are you experiencing a crisis?

It amazes me how quickly so many people in this thread turn to Ad Homenim rather than address the uncomfortable ambiguity of Scripture.

The pressure to state the obvious is palpable.

War is bad.​

Sex in marriage is the ideal.​

Equal protection under the law is the ideal.​

Slavery is bad.​

Freedom is good.​

We live in a fallen world where Jesus is our Lord and Savior.​

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A prostitute’s price is only a loaf of bread, but a married woman hunts for your life itself ... The cost of a loaf of bread is a small liability. I saw a vid a couple of weeks ago where there's a bill in UK to threaten a man's financial security if he has a relationship with a woman he is not even married to. Have you seen this? Or do you prefer to continue to make this thread about me personally?