The Coming FALSE MESSIAH

[Earburner]

Daniel 9:27
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst ofthe week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for theoverspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until theconsummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

This passage concerns the time of the end, when events involving Daniel’s people and city—the true house of Israel and Jerusalem—will continue.

Jesus Christ referred to this verse in Daniel 9 when He spoke in Matthew 24 and Mark 13 about “the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet” standing in the holy place. Paul likewise writes in 2 Thessalonians 2 that this figure will present himself to the world as God.

The desolation will continue “even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.” In this interpretation, that means it lasts until the end, when God pours out His wrath and brings the transgression to an end.

So, here’s how it will happen: The little horn, which is Satan, will appear in the last days and “confirm the covenant with many” for the seventieth week. This will bring in the first beast of Revelation 13, which will be worshipped, and will strengthen a coalition of many peoples, nations, and languages. This is the New World Order.

Sorry, you and many Pre-trib/Pre-mil believers have been duped by the wicked teachings of John Darby and Cyrus Scofield.

START reading the KJV Bible only, and listen to the teaching of the Holy Spirit within you (1 Cor. ch. 2).
STOP listening to the Bible College grads., aka Bishops, Reverands, Pastor's, Priests, Evangelists, etc.

 

[Davy]

Correction:
It is true that Satan is not in the bottomless pit, BUT other fallen angels are = Jude 1:5-7 & 2 Peter 2:4-9

Revelation 9:11 shows that Satan is a king and angel of... the bottomless pit:

Rev 9:11
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
KJV

Revelation 11:7 reveals for the 'end' of this world, Satan (as that "beast") will ascend out of the bottomless pit and kill God's "two witnesses" in Jerusalem:

Rev 11:7-8
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
KJV

In Revelation 13:11 forward, we are shown Satan as that "another beast" ASCENDING up out of the EARTH, having two horns LIKE a LAMB, but speaks AS A DRAGON (Greek for "a" can be "the" also. And the title "dragon" is another title for Satan per Revelation 12:9).

Rev 13:11-14
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
KJV

Per Revelation 17:8, that "beast" king is described ascending out of the bottomless pit, and goes into perdition. That's about Satan again.

Rev 17:8
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
KJV

Your understanding is influenced by men's traditions, and not on the above written Bible Scripture evidence.

 

[Davy]

CORRECTION #2 = and this is BIG

SURELY as GOD is TRUTH and cannot lie, GOD will raise the dead corruptible bodies/bones from the graves

Isaiah 26:19
Your dead shall live;
Together with my dead body they shall arise.
Awake and sing, you who dwell in dust;
For your dew is like the dew of herbs,
And the earth shall cast out the dead.

1 Corinthians 15

Now if Christ is preached that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen. 14And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. 15Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ, whom He did not raise up—if in fact the dead do not rise. 16For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen. 17And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins! 18Then also those who have [c]fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable

You are only dwelling on an old Jewish tradition that does not understand our makeup how God made us, nor do they recognize the Ecclesiastes 12:5-7, and 2 Corinthians 5 Scripture that reveals what happens at flesh death. Christ's Salvation is not... about saving our corrupt flesh bodies. Only Lord Jesus' flesh body was transfigured ("quickened" by The Spirit per the KJV) to a Spirit body, by which He went to the "spirits in prison" and preached The Gospel to the dead spirits who had died back to the time of the flood (1 Peter 3).

Because your interpretation bypasses many... Bible Scripture witnesses, you show you are only following a BIG... tradition of men. And the following Scripture by Apostle Paul you should have included in your understanding...

1 Cor 15:48-50
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
KJV

Flesh body = "corruption"
spiritual body = "incorruption"

Got it?

 

[Sel@h]

Sorry, you and many Pre-trib/Pre-mil believers have been duped by the wicked teachings of John Darby and Cyrus Scofield.

START reading the KJV Bible only, and listen to the teaching of the Holy Spirit within you (1 Cor. ch. 2).
STOP listening to the Bible College grads., aka Bishops, Reverands, Pastor's, Priests, Evangelists, etc.

I’m post-trib and I study the KJV.

Are you a Christian?

 

[Earburner]

You cannot just try and base your conclusion on that 1 John 4:3 verse. Apostle John was more specific about the "antichrist" as a certain entity in 1 John 2:18. And the many Bible witnesses where Lord Jesus and Apostle Paul described that coming antichrist as a pseudo-Christ, et al, far outweighs just trying to use that single 1 John 4:3 verse. Your reasoning is thus like in auto mechanics a spark plug is described to you, but then you purposefully omit that its spark plug gap has to be set in order to work properly.

Okay, then let's simply compare 1 John 2:18 with 1 John 4:3

1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that (spirit of) antichrist shall come, even now (because of that spirit) are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

1 John 4:3
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Yes! That SINGULAR spirit of antichrist causes there to be MANY antichrists in the PLURAL. These are the many individuals who do not confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.

 

[Davy]

Here is the BIG #7 = 1 Thess 4:13-18

But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope.
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.

For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.
BIG #7 HERE = For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.

You failed to mention what 'point' the above is trying to make.

I have covered 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 EXACTLY how it is written. And if it is the TIMING issue you have complaints about, I follow what Paul said there also, which he declares the future RESURRECTION with that idea that the dead in Christ must rise first.

1 Thess 4:16
16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
KJV

Is the raising of the dead not about the future RESURRECTION?

WHEN did Lord Jesus show the future resurrection will occur? He told us right here...

John 6:39
39 And this is the Father's will Which hath sent Me, that of all which He hath given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
KJV

John 6:40
40 And this is the will of Him That sent Me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
KJV

Thus Apostle Paul revealed in that 1 Thessalonians 4:16 verse that the day of Christ's future coming to gather His faithful Church will be on the LAST DAY of this present world. That means a POST-TRIBULATIONAL COMING.

So why are you not wanting to follow the above Bible Scripture as written?

 

[Sel@h]

Okay, then let's simply compare 1 John 2:18 with 1 John 4:3

1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that (spirit of) antichrist shall come, even now (because of that spirit) are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

1 John 4:3
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Yes! That SINGULAR spirit of antichrist causes there to be MANY antichrists in the PLURAL. These are the many individuals who do not confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.

There is only one Antichrist (Satan) but many antichrists (his followers).

 

[Earburner]

I’m post-trib and I study the KJV.

Are you a Christian?

Thank you for your reply. I did not know your particular view point on "these last days", ever since Jesus first appeared in the likeness of our flesh.
Yes. I am a Born again Christian, having the Amillennial viewpoint. I also study the KJV only.
Now that we both know where we stand, we will not be in a "fog" of how we relate to the scriptures, as well as with each other.

 

[Davy]

Okay, then let's simply compare 1 John 2:18 with 1 John 4:3

1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that (spirit of) antichrist shall come, even now (because of that spirit) are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

So per the above, you are willing... to ADD your own idea INTO that verse where it does not exist? It does not say the "spirit of" in that verse!

1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
KJV

Furthermore, you apparently do not understand basic grammar either, because the phrase "many antichrists" is plural, whereas the phrase "spirit of antichrist" is singular. Thus per YOUR view, there are 'many spirits of antichrists' already at work!?%*&?! But that's NOT what the Scripture says as written.

 

[Sel@h]

Thank you for your reply. I did not know your particular view point on "these last days", ever since Jesus first appeared in the likeness of our flesh.
Yes. I am a Born again Christian, having the Amillennial viewpoint. I also study the KJV only.
Now that we both know where we stand, we will not be in a "fog" of how we relate to the scriptures, as well as with each other.

If you didn’t know my “particular view point on "these last days,” why did you accuse me falsely?

 

[Davy]

Thank you for your reply. I did not know your particular view point on "these last days", ever since Jesus first appeared in the likeness of our flesh.
Yes. I am a Born again Christian, having the Amillennial viewpoint. I also study the KJV only.
Now that we both know where we stand, we will not be in a "fog" of how we relate to the scriptures, as well as with each other.

Well then, I am a "born again" Christian also, and Post-trib also, and the KJV Bible is my main study Bible.

But I in no way... believe in man's false 2nd century A.D. Amillennialist theory, which was obviously a 2nd century Gnostic teaching of the Christian Gnostics who crept into the Church.

 

[Sel@h]

And, @Earburner … I believe in a literal 1,000-year Millennium.

 

[Earburner]

There is only one Antichrist (Satan) but many antichrists (his followers).

Yes, I agree! Satan, a fallen angel, is an evil spirit being. He knows that Jesus has come in the flesh, but towards the human race as a deceiver, he denies that truth about Jesus.

Q. So then, what is the characteristic that proves that many are of that spirit of antichrist?
A. 1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not [aka denies] that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God:

 

[Earburner]

Well then, I am a "born again" Christian also, and Post-trib also, and the KJV Bible is my main study Bible.

But I in no way... believe in man's false 2nd century A.D. Amillennialist theory, which was obviously a 2nd century Gnostic teaching of the Christian Gnostics who crept into the Church.

Okay. I didn't know that about you. I thought that you were Premil., which in some ways is like Postmil, but without the "Pre or Mid Trib. rapture theory".
However, you still believe in a literal 1000 year reign of Christ on earth, after His Glorious return from heaven to Jerusalem, as do the Premils.

Did you know that Amilennials believe in a 1000 year reign of Christ on earth also, but figuratively? Ever since His Ascension into Heaven, He "reigns" through each of us, His church, which is for the purpose of preaching the gospel of Christ towards repentance, that many may believe in Jesus for their personal salvation, and to receive the Gift of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Earburner]

And, @Earburner … I believe in a literal 1,000-year Millennium.

Okay! So in kind like that of @Davy you also see a 1000 year reign on earth by Jesus, after His Glorious return.

 

[Earburner]

So per the above, you are willing... to ADD your own idea INTO that verse where it does not exist? It does not say the "spirit of" in that verse!

1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
KJV

Furthermore, you apparently do not understand basic grammar either, because the phrase "many antichrists" is plural, whereas the phrase "spirit of antichrist" is singular. Thus per YOUR view, there are 'many spirits of antichrists' already at work!?%*&?! But that's NOT what the Scripture says as written.

I am not bound by the basics of "the wisdom of men" through "grammar". But I am bound by "what the Holy Spirit teaches", "comparing spiritual things with spiritual". 1 Cor. 2
Are not the 1/3 of the fallen angels now demonic spirits called legion, for they are many?