The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

[rebuilder 454]

THREE? And you say post trib is a strange belief. smh

A few years ago, I started a thread titled "the postrib rapture doctrine", where I invited postribbrrs to convince me, with no sideshow, mocking, or pretrib rapture supposed error, of their doctrine.
IOW, teach me how you came up with some biblical ppstrib rapture doctrine.
NOBODY COULD DO IT.
So you remind me of that same postribber quagmire.

Tons and tons of, "you are incorrect", "but I have no idea why scripturally"

You just despise the pretrib rapture doctrine and anyone with that view.
Look at your total failure to post one verse supporting your teacher's tired theory.
Nada...zip....zero.

 

[rebuilder 454]

THREE? And you say post trib is a strange belief. smh

Bible knowledge.
1 the church
2 the jewish gathering of rev 14
3 the secong coming on millions of horses blackening the sky.

It seems impossible to look at all three and dishonestly blend them together.

I am not in any NEED to change the word of God.
You guys recklessly do it with great joy and "authority"

Just dump your bible and keep your erroneous teachers.

It is a travesty.

 

[rebuilder 454]

IMO:
The first future coming of Jesus is to a cloud to catch up believers, putting them out of harm's way of the coming scroll and bowl judgments. This is depicted in Revelation 14:14-16.

The second future coming of Jesus is to the plain of Megiddo in Israel, been there, seen it. Satan and his angels will be assembled there waiting to engage Jesus and his angels.

The New Testament specifies this place, and Satan can read the new Testament as well as I can:

"...gathered the kings to the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon (Revelation 16:16).

"Armageddon" is a Greek/English rendering of Hebrew:

הר (har) = "mountain, hill"
(rendered in Greek as ar, not har, since Greek has no h)

מגדו (Megiddo) = "prominent ancient city in the Jezreel Valley, long gone."

Rev 14:14,15 is during the trib.
It is a Jewish gathering.
That gathering has 144,000 JEWISH FIRSTFRUITS.
The pretrib rapture is the gathering of the bride.
That gathering has a DIFFERENT FIRSTFRUITS.... (JESUS).
The third is the second coming of rev 19.

 

[rebuilder 454]

THREE? And you say post trib is a strange belief. smh

BTW ask yourself why the Gathering by Jesus sitting on a cloud, has a FIRSTFRUITS OF 144,000 JEWS.

Then ask yourself who is the firstfruits of the church.

What gathering are you in?
Which one?
Who is the firstfruits of the rapture?
144,000 Jews?????
Are 144,000 jews your firstfruits??????

 

[rebuilder 454]

Can any postribber list the 3 comings, and tell me how those 3 magically got blended into one, inspite of the written Word of God?

You can not list them or tell me honestly why your doctrine casts the Bible down.

 

[Sel@h]

Can any postribber list the 3 comings, and tell me how those 3 magically got blended into one, inspite of the written Word of God?

You can not list them or tell me honestly why your doctrine casts the Bible down.

Little brother dear,
Would you please tell me again what the 3 comings are? I’m sure you’ve mentioned it before but I can’t remember.

 

[rebuilder 454]

It’s getting close; the latter days are already here. Let’s not be deceived.

The gathering of believers to Christ will only occur after the Antichrist has reigned.

The popular "Rapture" theory, specifically the Pre-tribulation view, suggests that Christ will remove the church before the tribulation begins. This view claims believers will be whisked away to safety, avoiding all the fear and chaos of the Antichrist. However, this idea lacks biblical support and suggests a cowardice inconsistent with the faith of those who have died defending the truth. Our protection comes from God, our Rock, not from physical hiding places like caves in Petra.

Scripture is clear that the return of Christ happens at the last trump, after the "man of sin" is revealed. In 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8, Paul explicitly warns believers not to be deceived: the Day of Christ cannot come until there is a great falling away and the son of perdition is revealed. This false messiah will exalt himself and sit in the temple of God, claiming to be God.

While some theorists claim that the "restrainer" mentioned in 2 Thessalonians 2:7 is the Holy Spirit being removed during a Rapture, this is very poor scholarship. The context makes it clear that the restrainer is holding back Satan, not the church. In reality, the Archangel Michael is the one restraining Satan in heaven.

Satan’s spirit is active on earth, but he himself is not yet here in person. He will be cast out by Michael and his angels, arriving on earth first to reign as the false christ. Only after this event will the gathering to Christ occur. Do not be deceived by theories; rely solely on the Word of God.

Remember, Jesus Christ IS NOT returning until the great apostasy (falling away) occurs AFTER Satan, the son of perdition (meaning the son who will perish), is revealed.

You left oit rev 13, where power is given the ac to kill all believers.
You also left out Jesus teaching on the pretrib rapture.

So no , you did not make a case for your theory.
You only are trying to cover up truth presented in Gods word.

Little brother dear, View attachment 92226
Would you please tell me again what the 3 comings are? I’m sure you’ve mentioned it before but I can’t remember.

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[Sel@h]

You left oit rev 13, where power is given the ac to kill all believers.
You also left out Jesus teaching on the pretrib rapture.

Would you die for Jesus if it came down to it?

There is no pretrib rapture.