Failed execution of female murderer

[Wrangler]

The responsibility is upon civil authority which was ordained by the Lord.

He's not telling Christians to act on their own

No one said said vigilante. In America, ”we” are the church AND the government.

 

[Wrangler]

I was speaking in general terms and not about any particular criminal cases.

Appeal to Diversion. This entire thread is about a particular case.

You aren't looking to kill someone are you? Is that something that seems exciting to you or something?

Sad that you resort to Appeal to Emotion and now Ad Hominem. As an adult, it is exciting to live up to responsibilities.

Many of your posts invoke one fallacy or another. Do you find emotional manipulation and distraction to be effective tools of persuasion? How old are you?

 

[Wrangler]

Excerpts from Great vid

https://rumble.com/v7gsrka-christianity-isnt-failing.-christians-are.-bob-socos-urgent-warning-to-the-.html?mref=4o9c18&mrefc=2

For more than 200 years, Soco argues, Christianity has surrendered its authority over culture, politics and society, retreating into a timid, compromised faith that no longer knows how to defend itself.

“It's not that our Lord's teachings are failing. It's that Christians have been failing to apply our Lord's teachings.”

In a powerful conversation with Elizabeth Farah, Soco calls for nothing less than the restoration of muscular Christianity: a faith that refuses to apologize for its convictions, a church that raises courageous men instead of silencing them, and a Christian civilization willing to defend its identity.

His answer begins with something the modern church has nearly forgotten: the Christian warrior and the ancient code of chivalry. Courage without cruelty. Strength without arrogance. Mercy without weakness. And the willingness to stand against evil, defend the persecuted and put the Kingdom of God above personal comfort.

But Soco also warns that Christianity cannot prevail while Protestants, Catholics and Orthodox Christians remain consumed by their own divisions.

“In the past, it was to turn brutish warriors into gentlemen. Now we must turn gentlemen more into warriors.”

 

[RandyDawson]

No one said said vigilante. In America, ”we” are the church AND the government.

Jesus said His kingdom is not of this world.
This world and all governments of the world are in the process of being turned over to satan who is about to rule this planet for a time.

If you are going to stop this from happening, you better hurry up! And let us know the specifics on how you are going to stop the take over. I can tell you straight up is will not be through political means especially in the US since both parties here are morally bankrupt and completely inept.

 

[Wrangler]

If you are going to stop this from happening

Your posts are very arrogant and wildly illogical. I didn’t say anything about stopping anything.

I only pointed out the Venn diagram that “we” in America make up the church and the government, which means Romans 13 and the burden of justice rest with us for both religious and government responsibilities to be fulfilled. While I do Justice directly justice done in our society is mostly done by our agents. This is Biblical for God told Moses to have the community stone the guy for breaking the sabbath.

 

[Jack]

Give it up! This false claim was made and refuted MANY times.

EVASIVE! You insist on killing people for government! Would YOU kill someone for government? Would you kill for baby murdering Dems? You might as well answer now. You'll answer on Judgment Day.

 

[Wrangler]

EVASIVE! You insist on killing people for government! Would YOU kill someone for government? Would you kill for baby murdering Dems? You might as well answer now. You'll answer on Judgment Day.

The government doesn’t hold the sword in vain.

 

[Jack]

The government doesn’t hold the sword in vain.

You're promoting killing people! We deserve some honest answers from you! Would YOU kill for government?

 

[Wrangler]

You're promoting killing people!

God promoted killing people Jack. In fact, it’s the default status for people. Only the saving Grace through Jesus averts that end. Does the government hold the sword in vain?

Jesus promoted killing people Jack. Why else do you suppose he told us to buy a sword, he wanted us to have dust collectors?

 

[Jack]

God promoted killing people Jack. In fact, it’s the default status for people. Only the saving Grace through Jesus averts that end. Does the government hold the sword in vain?

Jesus promoted killing people Jack. Why else do you suppose he told us to buy a sword, he wanted us to have dust collectors?

NO HE DID NOT! And you're still evading my simple question! Very unChristian!

 

[Wrangler]

And you're still evading my simple question!

What was that you were saying?

Does the government hold the sword in vain?

 

[Jack]

What was that you were saying?

Would you KILL people for government?

No clear answer expected! You're filled with comments about the Bible with ZERO proof!

 

[Wrangler]

Would you KILL people for government?

No clear answer expected!

Does the government hold the sword in vain?

Simple question but you keep avoiding it. And here is where I've already answered the question you keep badgering me about since October 11.

Killing ≠ Murder

I am willing to kill criminals, either directly or through my agents, because sometimes that is what justice demands.

And here is another simple question you forgot to answer.

In case you don't know it, I recently retired and moved in with my daughter to take care of my granddaughter. When someone unexpectedly pulls into the driveway and one time when my daughter came into the house earlier than expected, she saw my granddaughter run to me. When she runs to me and I'm sitting at the kitchen table, she lies by my feet in the fetal position, making herself as small as possible. What is her instinct in coming to me?
A. I'll sing kum-by-ya, pray & read Bible verses?
B. Use whatever force is necessary, including lethal force, to keep her safe?

A or B? My granddaughter's instinct in coming to me lying in the fetal position is A or B?

 

[Jack]

Does the government hold the sword in vain?

You ain't the government!

Killing ≠ Murder

I am willing to kill criminals, either directly or through my agents, because sometimes that is what justice demands.

You're not qualified to kill anyone!

John 8:7
7 So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first."

And here is another simple question you forgot to answer.

A or B? My granddaughter's instinct in coming to me lying in the fetal position is A or B?

Why do you keep trying to change the subject! You've already admitted that you would MURDER innocents for Uncle Scam!

 

[RandyDawson]

Your posts are very arrogant and wildly illogical. I didn’t say anything about stopping anything.

I only pointed out the Venn diagram that “we” in America make up the church and the government, which means Romans 13 and the burden of justice rest with us for both religious and government responsibilities to be fulfilled. While I do Justice directly justice done in our society is mostly done by our agents. This is Biblical for God told Moses to have the community stone the guy for breaking the sabbath.

What kind of justice are you doing directly? Are you out there shooting bad guys like a sniper or something?

Did God instruct you to off some people for not obeying the Saturday sabbath that was something observed under the old covenant? Do you off them with rocks like in the old covenant are have you moved to more modern weapons such as guns and bombs and stuff?

Do you think Christians are called to take over the world before Jesus returns to earth?
Is that believing Jesus is unable to return because He is waiting for His Body to raise up it's own military and defeats all nations of the world and force them to submit to the Lord or they will be killed?

This is what the moslems are wanting to so so Christians should do this as well?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

If you're right God is a LIAR!

No He is not! You either misunderstood the Bible or someone has fed you a load of manure.


Even Jesus told us we would suffer tribulation and be put to death and Paul said all who live godly will suffer persecution. You need to read your Bible

 

[RandyDawson]

EVASIVE! You insist on killing people for government! Would YOU kill someone for government? Would you kill for baby murdering Dems? You might as well answer now. You'll answer on Judgment Day.

I'm wandering the same thing about @Wrangler.

Does the government hold the sword in vain?

Depends on whether they are being led by the Spirit of the Lord or by devils.

The Lord never said to start an army and go subdue the world through military conquest.
(self defense is different - we all have the right to defend ourselves if the need arises)

In John 18:36, Jesus said: "My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight"

Has Jesus changed His position on this and now His servants are called to take up arms and subdue the world through military conquest? Asking for a friend.

 

[Jack]

No He is not! You either misunderstood the Bible or someone has fed you a load of manure.

I think you're trying.

Even Jesus told us we would suffer tribulation and be put to death and Paul said all who live godly will suffer persecution. You need to read your Bible

I'm amazed that you don't have a clue of God's promises to protect His people!

 

[RandyDawson]

Even Jesus told us we would suffer tribulation and be put to death and Paul said all who live godly will suffer persecution. You need to read your Bible

To counter this should Christians raise up it's own military and take over the world for Jesus to put a stop to this?

Some seem to have the idea this is what Christians should be doing.

 

[Jack]

To counter this should Christians raise up it's own military and take over the world for Jesus to put a stop to this?

Some seem to have the idea this is what Christians should be doing.

Well said!