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[amigo de christo]

The letters are written to churches on the earth. As I said before, Paul writing to churches knows that both wheat and tares make up the body of Christ as it is on the earth. His letters assume those whom he writes to are believers but cannot know who from among those, who profess to believe in Christ have been born again.

Your close my friend .
But THE CHURCH as in THE CHURCH has no tares .
However many institutions within what calls itself christendom has many tares now .
The tare is not the planting of the LORD but of the devil .
And every plant my FATHER has not planted SHALL be rooted up , said JESUS long ago .
Now as far as someone not knowing Who is who , their fruits will always indentify them .
The letters are our meat . THEY ARE TRUTH , as i am sure you already know that .
I do have a question for you my friend .
What do you notice , IF you behold these ecumeincal inclusive love churches , is missing .
And how do you THINK the leaven we now see in so many churches
that were under the judge not sensual love , was so able to fill them up .
The answer to that question is in the question i asked .
You see when a sensual love claoked as if it be the Love of GOD ,
enters in , DOCTRINE that might offend certain sins , OH IT GETS REMOVED
for sake of said sensual love and for unity .
AND g uess what happens when leaven is not corrected . IT GROWS
and in time to come the sin they no l onger corrected even becomes accepted.
And how they deciev ed these churches into allowing and accepting sins to remain
Phase two has big time entered to bring them as one with ALSO the false religoins . A FALSE GOSPEL
is more and more being accepted by means of sensual love and unto the unequally yoked it will be bought .
WE really should have learned those scriptures and stuck to that pattern my friend .

 

[Marvelloustime]

Your close my friend .
But THE CHURCH as in THE CHURCH has no tares .
However many institutions within what calls itself christendom has many tares now .
The tare is not the planting of the LORD but of the devil .
And every plant my FATHER has not planted SHALL be rooted up , said JESUS long ago .
Now as far as someone not knowing Who is who , their fruits will always indentify them .
The letters are our meat . THEY ARE TRUTH , as i am sure you already know that .
I do have a question for you my friend .
What do you notice , IF you behold these ecumeincal inclusive love churches , is missing .
And how do you THINK the leaven we now see in so many churches
that were under the judge not sensual love , was so able to fill them up .
The answer to that question is in the question i asked .
You see when a sensual love claoked as if it be the Love of GOD ,
enters in , DOCTRINE that might offend certain sins , OH IT GETS REMOVED
for sake of said sensual love and for unity .
AND g uess what happens when leaven is not corrected . IT GROWS
and in time to come the sin they no l onger corrected even becomes accepted.
And how they deciev ed these churches into allowing and accepting sins to remain
Phase two has big time entered to bring them as one with ALSO the false religoins . A FALSE GOSPEL
is more and more being accepted by means of sensual love and unto the unequally yoked it will be bought .
WE really should have learned those scriptures and stuck to that pattern my friend .

@amigo de christo

 

[Jack]

@amigo de christo
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But Satan has so many ministers. Most people go to church and don't have a clue what the Bible teaches. Being too lazy to STUDY the Bible is a road to Hell Fire!

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness,

 

[amigo de christo]

But Satan has so many ministers. Most people go to church and don't have a clue what the Bible teaches. Being too lazy to STUDY the Bible is a road to Hell Fire!

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness,

Yes indeed and many have put their hopes into such leaders of churches and into politics of both sides of the realm .
YES . we really DO NEED to learn our bibles well .

 

[rwb]

But THE CHURCH as in THE CHURCH has no tares .

Paul is not writing to the Church that has no tares. He's writing to the church as it is both wheat and tares in this world. And as someone has already pointed out the wheat, and tares grow together until the harvest at the end of the age. The warnings are given for those who say they believe in Christ and in deeds appear to be wheat. But who in fact have never been born again! The last thing those who believe in Christ want to hear, even after doing many good deeds in His name is, "Depart from Me, I never knew you"! This is why we are called to examine ourselves "examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves." Why? Because faith that leads to eternal life is not merely professing to know Christ as the devils do. No, faith that leads to eternal life in Christ comes when we are born again. Yes, many profess to believe Christ and think they have been born again, but if they had truly believed in Christ through birth from above, Christ would say to them at the GWTJ "welcome" instead of "I never knew you."

2 Corinthians 13:5 (KJV) Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

 

[RandyDawson]

The warnings are given for those who say they believe in Christ and in deeds appear to be wheat. But who in fact have never been born again!

And those warnings are equally as true for those who did get born again and departed from the faith to follow doctrines of demons.

1 Timothy 4:1 says that in the latter times some will “depart from the faith.” This describes them as giving heed to deceiving (seducing) spirits and “doctrines of devils.”

 

[rwb]

And those warnings are equally as true for those who did get born again and departed from the faith to follow doctrines of demons.

1 Timothy 4:1 says that in the latter times some will “depart from the faith.” This describes them as giving heed to deceiving (seducing) spirits and “doctrines of devils.”

The only faith it is possible to depart when one has believed but has not been born again, is faith like that of the devils. Why? Because that kind of faith is natural and is not from the fruit of the Spirit in us. Which is why departing from the faith is giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.

James 2:19 (KJV) Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Galatians 5:22 (KJV) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV) But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

1 Corinthians 10:21 (KJV) Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.

 

[RandyDawson]

The only faith it is possible to depart when one has believed but has not been born again

That's not true according to God's Word. Scripture must be ignored and twisted to believe that.

 

[JimKnox]

According to scripture we are not saved until death!

Mk 13:13 mt 10:22 mt 24:13
He who endures to the end shall be saved

Rev 2:10
Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.


We now have the grace of justification, we have union with God thru Christ, in the communion of saints, empowered by grace and life in the spirit to attain to eternal salvation.

Grace not salvation!

Jn 1:16

A state of grace in Christ!

Jn 15:1-6

We can increase grace by good works and we can lose grace by sin.

Thks

Then you believe you can lose Christ, grace, & salvation?

Why would you say that?
Your accusation is not relevant to the post you are quoting.
Looks like you believe it is ok to lie.

 

[rwb]

That's not true according to God's Word. Scripture must be ignored and twisted to believe that.

When a man is born again possessing the Holy Spirit, in order for them to depart from faith that saved them and heed seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils, Satan would have to first drive out the Holy Spirit, making him more powerful than God. That can never be.

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
1Jo 4:5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1Jo 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

 

[Jack]

One OSASer here commented: " If I died when I didn’t believe I would have gone to Heaven because there was One Time That I DID Believe.....that’s all it takes...."

Doctrine of demons!

 

[WHO ME]

The Faith they depart from is the grace thru Faith that a beliver has to go with Gods grace. This is why the Holy Spirit is speaking in this verse, when they depart the faith they also depart the Holy Spirit they recieved with that faith...

 

[WHO ME]

When a man is born again possessing the Holy Spirit, in order for them to depart from faith that saved them and heed seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils, Satan would have to first drive out the Holy Spirit, making him more powerful than God. That can never be.

WHO ME replies: it doesnt say that, it says that SOME (being the person who has Faith) departs the faith....




IF these "SOME" never had grace thru Faith being saved, why do you think the Holy Spirit is speaking here?

 

[JimKnox]

1 John 5:19

 

[mailmandan]

Paul has no way of knowing who and who has not been born again! Only the Lord knows those who are eternally His.

John 10:14 (KJV) I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.

John 10:27-28 (KJV) My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

The knowledge the Lord has of His own is personal, intimate and foundational to His mission. He knows them before they know Him, calls them friends, and shares His Father’s business with them. This mutual knowledge is part of the very definition of eternal life in His relationship with believers. Both Father and Son share complete knowledge of those whom the Father has given to the Son, that is not accessible to anybody else.

Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.

Only the Lord infallibly knows the hearts of mankind. There are genuine Christians and there are "nominal" or pseudo-Christians. There are genuine believers and there are make believers and man is unable to infallibly tell them all apart. John 6:64 - Yet there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus had known from the beginning which of them did not believe and who would betray him. 65 He went on to say, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled them.” 66 From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him. 67 “You do not want to leave too, do you?” Jesus asked the Twelve. 68 Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69 We have come to believe and to know that you are the Holy One of God.” 70 Then Jesus replied, “Have I not chosen you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is a devil!” 71 (He meant Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot, who, though one of the twelve, was later to betray him.)

To the remaining 11 disciples, Judas may have looked like the real deal yet only Jesus infallibly knew his heart and said, "one of you is a devil!"

 

[marks]

Did you forget you didn't know that anything apart from fait is sin?

you shouldn't believe your own press. This is silliness.

Worse than silliness to change the wording of Scripture and then go on to defend your changes.

 

[marks]

How can Paul or any other human being know if those who profess to believe in Christ have been born again?

Exactly! Much of the New Testament is written in such a way as to challenge those who think they are believers to make sure they truly are.

Much love!

 

[marks]

Once I had fallen back to my old life and thought well I cant lose my salvation I just wont have as much blessing or whatever in heaven but Im still good to go.... I believed the osas teachers..... boy was I wrong...


Their gonna be responsible for those false teachings and the people who believed their words also....

Are you saying you are no longer saved?

I don't mean to be snide or anything, only, if you believe you'd returned to your old life, did you in fact stop being reborn?

 

[marks]

We can know them by their fruits cant we

Is that what the Bible says?

Or does it say you will know false teachers by their fruits?

Much love!

 

[marks]

1 Timothy 4:1 says that in the latter times some will “depart from the faith.” This describes them as giving heed to deceiving (seducing) spirits and “doctrines of devils.”

It sounds as though you are reading "depart from the faith" as "depart from their faith".