Who are the Saved?
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For someone who doesn't like being harassed you sure like to harass.
In other words you would rather not say........for some reason. Got it.
......and I wonder what else you believe that you would rather not say.For someone who doesn't like being harassed you sure like to harass.
Why should you care? Anything I would have to say would not be supportive of your new age tendencies.
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You keep warning me about judgment, but I think you are the one who needs to worry.
I have repeatedly shown you what the Bible actually says, and instead of dealing with those Scriptures, you dismiss them, insult me, and now accuse me of serving Satan. That does not answer the Word of God.
Jesus said, “He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day” (John 12:48).
That is the issue here. You are not rejecting me. You keep rejecting Scripture whenever it contradicts what you want to teach.
So before you keep warning everyone else about judgment, you might want to consider your own position. God’s Word will be the standard, not your private interpretations, your experiences, or your accusations against anyone who challenges you.
It's very simple: the saved are those who believe in (trust in, cling to and rely upon) the Lord Jesus Christ, by the grace of God.
Eph. 2:8-10 (Webster)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not by works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Good works are evidence that we have been saved.
All this is true....and can be easily faked. The "good" works can be something we do from ourselves that seem good...in our estimation. However, the good works that are by grace are such in God's estimation, not ours. Holy works. Works prepared in advance from heaven.
The same goes for believing. What level of believing? Believing a set of religious propositions as in any human religion? Or the kind of faith that gets us translated into the kingdom realm to walk without sin? To walk in resurrection life and power.
So the gospel is not in word but in power. The decoy gospel SOUNDS like the real thing...but then a decoy would not be such unless it looked exactly like the real thing. If you want to fool people make it sound as authentic as possible.
So then, having taken that into account, what do you want to say about the good works that are done under grace? IS it just our own works of appreciation? Or are the works the same kind as Jesus does?
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Episkopos,
Are women included in the salvation?
In Revelation 14:1-5, it's only men who are with the Lamb - specifically, those who have kept themselves pure and haven't been with women.
I believe so. The idea of virgins here is not a physical description but a spiritual one. The bible is about spiritual history, not physical history.
Amen.
Genuine faith (i.e. believing) is trusting in, clinging to and relying upon the Lord Jesus Christ. It is a living relationship that works by love.
Yes, that's true.
As Jesus said, the works that he does we will do also, and greater works than these, because he has gone to the Father and given us (born again Christians) the Holy Spirit.
AH. Here is a believer in whom there is no guile, VERY rare these days. Pretenders take note.
Thank you, Episkopos! I pray that, by the grace of God, I will live up to that.
I believe you will do exploits for the Lord. <><
MostlyConfused
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I have thought this too. It’s along the lines of Paul saying, you don’t think God was just talking about physical oxen there, do you? Paul does this in other places too, like when he tries to convey that he is speaking of Christ and the church rather than a temporal husband and wife.
Taken
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Who are the Saved?
1 Cor 15:
[18] For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
What is the Power of God?
1 Cor 1:
[24] But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
Where is THAT Power of God?
[15] For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish:
Glory To God,
Taken
mailmandan
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Romans 1:16 - For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God unto salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.
1 Corinthians 1:21 - For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
The power of God that empowers humans to walk as Jesus walked...not the religious philosophy based on a misreading of the bible that condones sinful human religious naming and claiming.
That's how the message of the gospel is promulgated. By hearing with faith in God. The acceptance is not the believer doing the accepting....it is God who accepts certain people into the Beloved.
mailmandan
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The gospel is the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16) This is not about misreading the bible that condones sinful human religious naming and claiming. This is about trusting in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation.
Aa children of God, believers ought to walk as Jesus walked (1 John 2:6) which means shaping our actions, choices, love, and obedience to mirror the character and behavior of Christ. 1 John 2:1 - My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous;
The gospel is a message of grace that is to be received through faith. The gospel is not a set of rituals to perform, a code of laws to be obeyed or a check list of good works to accomplish as a prerequisite for salvation. Choosing to believe the gospel is inseparable from the believer's personal acceptance of it. Scripture presents faith in Christ as both hearing the message and receiving.
Romans 10:13 - So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
John 1:12 - But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name.
Acts 15:7 - And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: “Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. 8 So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, 9 and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
I need to redirect you to a more suitable thread that fits your belief system....entitled mentally populating heaven.The gospel is the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16) This is not about misreading the bible that condones sinful human religious naming and claiming. This is about trusting in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation.
Aa children of God, believers ought to walk as Jesus walked (1 John 2:6) which means shaping our actions, choices, love, and obedience to mirror the character and behavior of Christ. 1 John 2:1 - My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous;
The gospel is a message of grace that is to be received through faith. The gospel is not a set of rituals to perform, a code of laws to be obeyed or a check list of good works to accomplish as a prerequisite for salvation. Choosing to believe the gospel is inseparable from the believer's personal acceptance of it. Scripture presents faith in Christ as both hearing the message and receiving.
Romans 10:13 - So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
John 1:12 - But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name.
Acts 15:7 - And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: “Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. 8 So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, 9 and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
Mentally Populating Heaven
Have you ever imaginatively pictured arriving in heaven, and seeing people you have prayed for, those for which you prayed that they would be saved? I find this exercise to be edifying and uplifting. I often pray in pictures to help me focus. When I pray for a person to be saved, I might...
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soberxp
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Who are the saved?
Jesus Christ, the only one that can obey every word of God.
From the beginning, anyone disobey the word of God that means die.
Jesus Christ, the only one that can obey every word of God.
From the beginning, anyone disobey the word of God that means die.
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