Deborah_ said:
Paul is saying it, not me. Are you accusing Paul of "holding people back"?
The gifts (as a whole) are for all - and I have never said otherwise.
No, it doesn't. We have to ask in Christ's name - in other words, with His authorisation. And He has not promised to give us absolutely anything we want. As James says, "When you ask, you do not receive" - not because you 'lack faith' but "because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures." (James 4:3)
As you yourself admit, you do not have all the gifts. Neither do I. But you have some - and so do I. That is normal. Even in the New Testament, Paul and the other apostles seem to have had more gifts than the 'average' believer. We are encouraged to ask for more gifts (I Corinthians 14:1). Some of us are given more gifts than others - but nobody has every single one. What is so terrible about having "only" one or two gifts, if God is clearly using them for His glory and to build up the Church?
God said it through Paul I am niether accusing God or Paul. I am saying you are misteaching it the way you are putting it. It does not say the gifts are NOT for all like you say. Paul is asking do all , The answer is clearly no. Paul is no saying what your implying that the gifts are not for everyone. And no one will ever have all gifts. You are adding that. Anyone CAN have all the gifts We dont have them because we never asked . We dont have them because we wont step out in faith with the gifts.
You said
"Clearly
none of the gifts is for every Christian."
So you did say other wise.
Then I quoted scripture and you quote the same scripture back at me.
Any thing you ask in MY NAME i said. Then you tell me I must ask in Jesus name??? I quoted it. I never said he will give anything we ask, you did. Please dont misqoute me. Please dont read into what I never said.
I am reffering to the gifts only not "Anything you ask"
Is it in the Fathers will to give us whats good and right for us yes it is. Clearly you can not Fully represent Christ unless you have all the gifts.
And clearly I dont have all the gifts because I never asked yet.
Did you ask for all the gifts. You cant say yes if you are believeing we cant have them in the first place.
What is so terrible if God made the gifts available to all and we dont expect to get them because people are teaching we cant. That is terrible.
The answer is not clearly no as you claim.
We are encourgad to chase after the gits cleary as you quoted. But thats not what you been claiming from the start. Why because we can have them all.
"Some of us are given more gifts than others" It does not say that you said that.
"- but
nobody has every single one." Says you??? I know there are not many with all the gifts as we dont see that every day. But you are wrong to assume there is no one in the whole world with all the gifts just because you never seen it. That is just wrong. You can not make that claim. The gifts are for all if you ernestly seek them and step out in faith with them.