You know Mary, the Word of God is above all. There is nothing in this world that trumps His infallible Word. No religion, no philosophy, no tradition can be held higher than the Word itself. Because the written Word of God is the actual revelation of the true Word who is the second person of the Trinity, Jesus Christ Himself. When you add your traditions and try to add things to the Word through your religion and personal understanding you are attempting to change Christ Himself. Christ and His Word DO NOT change.I am in good company perrero!!
I used scripture AND 2,000 years of Christian History to support infant baptism. So did the FIRST CENTURY CHRISTIANS who walked and talked with the Apostles so it was more than likely a COMMON PRACTICE when the Apostles were alive. The CHURCH FATHERS used scripture to support infant baptism. I am truly in good company.
You perrero, by your own admittance, are unable to produce NOTHING from scripture that says DO NOT BAPTIZE INFANTS. Your tradition of not baptizing infants is only 500 years old.
I will respond to your other false accusations later.
Love...Mary
James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
When you use such words as "common practice" without biblical truth or "church fathers" without biblical truth", you end up doing just what I said and that is to lay more weight to that than the Word itself. Did you know, that for 2000 yrs now, the Doctrine of the Nicolaitans (Rev. 2:6, 2:15, the only two times Jesus uses the word hate) has been in effect. And, according to your logic, because it has been in effect for 2000 yrs we should be embracing that doctrine even though Jesus clearly states He hates it. Do you not see that 2000 yrs of false doctrine still remains false doctrine?
I am letting you of the hook. You do not have to answer what you call, my "false accusations". First of all, I never accused you of anything. I simply put forward a list of false doctrines that are espoused by the C church. I did, however, ask you a simple question about what was the 2nd commandment given to Moses. I even made it easy for you by giving you the Bible references. I suspect that anyone on this board can answer that question in a second. Here let me spell it out for you:
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me" (Exodus 20:3-5)
Now I also suspect that the reason you did not answer such an easy question, even with me giving you the references, is because you knew that the 2nd commandment is non existent in the C bible. The C Church replaced the 2nd with the 3rd, the 3rd with the 4th, and so on and divided the last commandment in two in order to make the 9th and 10th. And if you agree with that kind of scheming and removal of scripture, ignoring those 3 verses above, then why not remove every other verse that doesn't suit you, or remove a chapter, a book or the whole Old Testament if it's not convenient. For that matter who needs the Bible, we can go on living as we see fit.
Yet according to your great logic, the original 10 commandments have been around for over 4000 yrs which is much longer than the C church who changed the 10 Commandments the their doctored version (1800 yrs) and therefore you should be using the older version. But you are NOT.
I guess it is all a matter of convenience.
So as I said, you're of the hook.
I don't think I want to continue a discussion on these topics with someone who doesn't hold The Word of God in highest authority. It's like talking with an atheist who doesn't believe in the authority of scripture and uses whatever reasoning, logic, persuasion, tradition and more to prove a BIBLICAL point.
1 Peter 1:8 kinda wraps it up "Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
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