September 22nd, 2017 End of the World?

[bbyrd009]

I'd recommend not trolling when scripture is involved. Actually, it's a sin even when it's not.

trolling? I cannot even say you are wrong. But since you brought it up, what is this?

"Everyone just makes up complete nonsense and posts it.
Read something."

etc.

 

[tabletalk]

JAA: Will you stay on these forums until the 21st of September? Others have set the same date (approximately) as you have, but they are no longer posting on this site.

 

[bbyrd009]

I never spoke to a prophet.
Have you?

my opinion is that a prophet must have an open canon to prophesy into, although that belief of mine is pretty old and might need review, dunno. Imo your OP was not attempting to prophesy, although some of your posts since then come close--but then in a forum i guess we should forgive some shorthand sometimes, too.

fwiw you are like at least the third guy i know of to come in here and either suggest or insist that the world is going to end in Sept, see "Heb," and can't think of my other example right now. dunno if they might have seen your vision also, and for all i know you are all correct, ok? Even if the exact dates were slightly different.

But see, here's the thing; ppl have been expecting a physical return of God in some form since forever; it is a big occult thing for one, and we can even read an account in Acts of the new Church doing the same thing--that little (short-lived) communist paradise that is described, where Ananais and Saphira dropped dead, etc? Note Paul was collecting alms for them a few years later. Or maybe that was Peter.

Anyway, my point is that once you have met Him in the air, and you are doing what the dog does, which i can do maybe most of the time now--i can tell because ppl are drawn to it, and it also drives them nuts--"Understand I AM" takes on a different meaning, which i tried to explain but you trolled me for, right? Which i understand, ok.

Also you might examine the pride factor that is inherent in "prophesying," not to mention the worrying about or at least having your head in "tomorrow," that violates other Scripture, etc. Etc because there are other Scriptural violations going on here too

 

[bbyrd009]

I'm not going scrolling.

come again?

If you can find any scholar or church that says that, whatever that is, then I'll look it up.

see that a scholar or "church" has no vested interest in that interpretation, and as sure as tares have become "weeds" now, that interpretation is...well, "hidden," even if it is in plain sight. Here, i will go scrolling, lol, and give you an example. I could do the same for yours, a simple highlight/search:

"a misconception in the Christian life, this idea that everyone is suddenly to become fully like Jesus when we see him as he is. No, no. We are already becoming like him, even when we see him as in a mirror, faintly, darkly, as Paul puts it."

What Shall we Be? | 1 John 3:2-3 | RayStedman.org

and if i searched the wrong phrase, just tell me what is meant by "that" in "If you can find any scholar or church that says that."

 

[bbyrd009]

But whatever it was it was new to me.

the difference seemed to arise in the answer to ByGrace's

"regarding the body in which He now dwells, ...was that changed or transformed in His ascension into heaven?"

Job
1 John 3
2 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.

you
This does not say that by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[bbyrd009]

A you new to internet forums?
Because the 60,000 Christian denominations, according to Wiki, that exist aren't even a drop in the ocean to the beliefs out there.
I can send a swarm of Christs, prophets, seers, Elijahs, end time witnesses, etc, here in a heartbeat and what they believe will make your head spin. Firstly, that would be a grievous sin. And secondly I wouldn't wish them on anybody.
So, yes, there are thousands of standard beliefs either based on something a scholar wrote like the word Jehovah.
This word was created when ignorant English translators added the vowel points for Adonai (Lord) to The Name, the Tetragrammaton, YHWH and created the word Jehovah because, as you all know, no vowels were used in the scriptures. And even though YHWH appears about 6,000 times we don't know how to pronounce it.
And then there are the other beliefs, pyramids built in the Arctic by Nephelim which were recently visited by the Russian leader of the Orthodox church and our Secretary of State.
BTW I`m pounding this out on my tablet because my cell died and my pc is too slow. Ignore spelling, etc.

wow, i am impressed. if i tried that ona tablet it would be completely incomprehensible, and the tablet would be broken now lol

 

[bbyrd009]

Job was saying that I should know everything, and no one can.

well c'mon, not everything, but at least that we do not know what we will be, or that we will be like Him, or whatever your objection was there, which i am not too clear on

 

[bbyrd009]

I'd love anyone to show me that you do know something about prophecy.

pretty sure this is why Paul said "i would rather you speak in tongues than prophesy" lol. Like, TIC (tongue-in-cheek)

 

[bbyrd009]

Even the loonies give their takes

this is one of those Scripture violations i was talking about

 

[bbyrd009]

I must have mentioned several hundred lines of prophecy already and no one seems to have any knowledge of them.

picture if you will a superpower, without an enemy, and understand that nation-states become irrelevant in the absence of an enemy, which can be searched if it is a new concept. Now imagine that nation state creating an enemy, IS, and using prophecy to hit all your buttons. Pretty sure something like that is going on. The wonder of why IS is hurting Muslims and not attacking NATO targets has been rife on the net for years now. Fake IS "Muslim" operatives have been pointed out in their propaganda videos with SEAL tattoos, praying to Mecca in the wrong direction, etc.

 

[bbyrd009]

I must have mentioned several hundred lines of prophecy already and no one seems to have any knowledge of them.

what would you have us do?

Tbh you strike me as disappointed that we are not thanking you--to put it mildly--for pointing out how the world is about to end. Tomorrow.

 

[bbyrd009]

Well, the New Heavens and the new Earth won't happen until after Jesus Christ has ruled for longer than a thousand years from Jerusalem. Because he must reign until death is no more and this happens after the Millennium.
Here's something I never heard anyone say, when he rules the world will benefit from a new language, universal peace, healing the sick, animals living in peace with us, healing the planet, etc. But they will not be IN the Kingdom of God. Only the changed saints, all of the living and resurrected dead will be in the Kingdom.

you are sounding very assured again, here; hopefully Sept 23rd, if you come back, we might review this also

 

[bbyrd009]

And yet there is not even a single person to even look at the scriptures because sight unseen they already know what the Bible truly says. Even though none of them agree with each other.

as i said, you are agreeing with at least a couple other posters, no longer too active i guess. You say we aren't looking because we already know, and i can tell you that for my part at least i do not.

 

[bbyrd009]

And yet there is not even a single person to even look at the scriptures because sight unseen they already know what the Bible truly says.

plus you are dramatizing, "not even a single person," etc. c'mon

fwiw i did not examine your Scriptures because "THE WORLD WILL END TOMORROW" told me all i needed to know

 

[JAA]

You make absolutely no sense.

Not a single person has even look at the scriptures mentioned in this thread because they have different beliefs, and they think that what they believe is right.
But no one here agrees with anyone else.
So each of you thinks that you are right and everyone else is wrong.
But I say that you love your personal doctrines above all else.
And you don't want to consider anything that might prove you wrong.

 

[JAA]

JAA

Dont know if you missed this post or dont want to reply for the obvious reason?

I answered the first part in this thread.

And I never claimed to be a prophet.

I'm just saying look at this.

But no one will.

Perhaps none of you knows anything about prophecy or you are protecting your personal beliefs.

 

[JAA]

plus you are dramatizing, "not even a single person," etc. c'mon

fwiw i did not examine your Scriptures because "THE WORLD WILL END TOMORROW" told me all i needed to know

It's a scripture and your using it as an excuse.

 

[JAA]

plus you are dramatizing, "not even a single person," etc. c'mon

fwiw i did not examine your Scriptures because "THE WORLD WILL END TOMORROW" told me all i needed to know

I missed it, who was it that discussed the prophetic verses?
I don't see anyone.

 

[JAA]

Daniel 7 King James Version (KJV)
7 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters.

2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.

3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.

6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.

7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.

11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

15 I Daniel was grieved in my spirit in the midst of my body, and the visions of my head troubled me.

16 I came near unto one of them that stood by, and asked him the truth of all this. So he told me, and made me know the interpretation of the things.

17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.

18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.

19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;

20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

28 Hitherto is the end of the matter. As for me Daniel, my cogitations much troubled me, and my countenance changed in me: but I kept the matter in my heart.

 

[Job]

Daniel 7 King James Version (KJV)
7 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters.

2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.

3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.

6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.

7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.

11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

15 I Daniel was grieved in my spirit in the midst of my body, and the visions of my head troubled me.

16 I came near unto one of them that stood by, and asked him the truth of all this. So he told me, and made me know the interpretation of the things.

17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.

18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.

19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;

20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

28 Hitherto is the end of the matter. As for me Daniel, my cogitations much troubled me, and my countenance changed in me: but I kept the matter in my heart.

Your point?