September 22nd, 2017 End of the World?

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bbyrd009

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You don't know prophecy, the Kings of the East fight for the Beast and they fight against Jesus Christ.
i don't really get that, because that area was known as "Mideast" even then, and "East" is generally acknowledged to be Oriental i think
 

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i beg your pardon? I don't think every single thing you are posting is complete nonsense, ok, you've posted some good stuff too


yes, i'm fam with it. unfortunately that is a contested verse, and i haven't spent any time digging into the original to discover whether "I AM," "I Am" and "I am" would even be written the same way. I notice in this example all three are used by diff translations
The verse was never the point.

The point was the one Jesus Christ made.

You can find supporting scriptures in the beginning of the 1st chapter of John.
 

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I should not even care how people respond.
I thought I would get preteris. historist, post trib, mid trib, pretty trib, futurist, etc, arguments against.
But it's been nonsense.
I just don't want to get into trouble if it does happen and I didn't say anything.
well, i see you're in the right section--one i try really hard to stay out of--so i gotta say i am surprised, i would think the guys in here would love to have a mass debate with you :)
 

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in the contested verse? Do you think that is the only way to "understand I AM?"
assuming it is even valid; strikes me as some Trinitarian scribitude personally, but i don't know.
What was Jesus Christ saying to them?

You're not even 50 and you knew our Father Abraham?
Truly I say to you, even before Abraham was I Am.

The word was God, all things were made by him.

Now Father glorify me with the glory that I had with you before the world was made.

That's the point.
 

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then they are doomed, and i have nothing to worry about, right?
Then we are all saved.

By TYPING out the verses of Revelation I saw that the plagues from God fall on THOSE THAT BLASPHEME THE GOD OF HEAVEN, and those that WORSHIP THE BEAST and ON THE BEASTS KINGDOM.

Read it.
 

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i don't really get that, because that area was known as "Mideast" even then, and "East" is generally acknowledged to be Oriental i think
I always just took it to mean they lowered the Euphrates River and crossed from east to west.
 

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What was Jesus Christ saying to them?

You're not even 50 and you knew our Father Abraham?
Truly I say to you, even before Abraham was I Am.

The word was God, all things were made by him.

Now Father glorify me with the glory that I had with you before the world was made.

That's the point.
a diff "I am," as i said, assuming the verse is even valid
 

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no--if you click just to the right of the name at the top of a quote, it will take you back to it, and so on
Thank you 'bbyrd' that is super useful. Had tried to find beginnings of threads and had a hard time doing so.
 
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I find this interesting.
what does that have to do with them being Oriental and not IS?
I don't understand.
Oriental refers to objects, like rugs.
If you mean Asian that word is not in Revelation.