Catholics

[EndTimeWine]

this is tempting to believe but imo popes rep the people just like any leader does. Iow popes do not

Call a head of a church denomination what you want. If he stands firm on the ROCK he will not err and harm those who are in need of guidance in whatever Pastoral FORM. Get over yourself and denominational beliefs! Anyone, with brains understands exactly what I am saying! All PASTORAL HEADS HAVE A NAME, whether or not they lead you to truth is another thing! None can claim the TILE: WORD OF GOD, who is my pastoral head. Not everyone understands the dialogue of Luke2:46-50, After three days they found Him in the TEMPLE sitting AMONG The Teachers, LISTENING to them and asking them questions; AND ALL WHO HEARD HIM WERE ASTONISHED; and HIS MOTHER said to Him, 'Son why have you treated us so? Behold your father and I have been looking for you anxiously." And he said to them, " How is it that you SOUGHT ME? Did you not know that I must be in my Father's house?" And they did not understand the SAYING which He spoke to THEM.

MEANING: We who follow Christ, who are like Mary and are also his mother, sisters, brothers, but she is His mother literally. Search out Christ everywhere, in all denominations and in Pastors whatever title that falls under. But Christ HIMSELF is the ONLY TRUE TEACHER, and He is found for the BELIEVER, KEY WORD( BELIEVER) - in His Fathers temple. This is a dialogue in Wisdom to be understood now at these end of Last days-that are upon us. And is revealed by Mary who pondered His saying in HER HEART, FIRST- before all of us.The understanding was reached by her first then us. But the answer is understood NOW through the HOLY SPIRIT'S gifts. We are the TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD. We no longer need other teachers. All denominations are coming to an end. The Body Of Christ's Head is CHRIST! When you reject the LIES of denominations you STAND ONLY AND COMPLETELY ON THE WORD- ALONE. I hope this is not too advanced for you? This is where I am at in my faith. Mary's experiences will be ours as well.
1Corinthians 3:16 Do you not know that you are GOD'S TEMPLE and that GOD'S SPIRIT dwells in you? This is the Revelation of The WOMAN OF REVELATION12. And is the the mystery of the WEDDING FEAST AT CANAAN. This is the NEW WINE served at the end of the WEDDING FEAST= END OF THE LAST DAYS. For the beginning of the Last days began with Christ, the end is now upon us and will end with CHRIST'S second coming . The end time WINE is served by the servants chosen BY MARY, this is the mystery suggested in WISDOM by MARY MOTHER OF OUR LORD at the WEDDING FEAST. GOD BLESS!

 

[EndTimeWine]

PLEASSSSSSE!! GET OVER YOURSELF! EVERYONE WITH WISDOM , KNOWS ST. PETER'S ROLE FOR THE BODY OF CHRIST=BELIEVERS OBVIOUSLY NOT THE HEAD, for St. Peter can not teach Christ, but you and all others who choose to follow Christ! For you to put THIS ILLUMINATI SELL OUT up as part of your argument, shows how detached you are FROM SPIRITUAL REALITY. WWJD, and His APOSTLES- not use worldly affairs to make point in HEAVENLY ONES! SATAN'S offspring- NOT THE ROCK! OBVIOUSLY! AND OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE RETARDED IN SPIRITUAL GROWTH! Do not know where your Pastor comes from but HE IS NOT CHRIST!

 

[bbyrd009]

the end is now upon us

hmm, could you ID who "us" is there? ty

 

[bbyrd009]

PLEASSSSSSE!! GET OVER YOURSELF! EVERYONE WITH WISDOM , KNOWS ST. PETER'S ROLE FOR THE BODY OF CHRIST=BELIEVERS OBVIOUSLY NOT THE HEAD, for St. Peter can not teach Christ, but you and all others who choose to follow Christ! For you to put THIS ILLUMINATI SELL OUT up as part of your argument, shows how detached you are FROM SPIRITUAL REALITY. WWJD, and His APOSTLES- not use worldly affairs to make point in HEAVENLY ONES! SATAN'S offspring- NOT THE ROCK! OBVIOUSLY! AND OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE RETARDED IN SPIRITUAL GROWTH! Do not know where your Pastor comes from but HE IS NOT CHRIST!

could use more bolding, imo :)

 

[EndTimeWine]

hmm, could you ID who "us" is there? ty

WHAT MAKES ONE CHRISTIAN?

 

[EndTimeWine]

could use more bolding, imo :)

WHAT MAKES ONE CHRISTIAN?

 

[bbyrd009]

WHAT MAKES ONE CHRISTIAN?

i'm just curious what your definition is, there at "us." mine i am already familiar with

 

[bbyrd009]

WHAT MAKES ONE CHRISTIAN?

why are you yelling?

 

[BreadOfLife]

I am.

Actually - you may be related to His Church as part of a splinter group - but you aren't IN it.
Christ's Church is ONE - not tens of thousands of sects all teaching different doctrines.

 

[ScottA]

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What does APOSTLE MEAN? And who are the first, they are the only true teachers appointed by the WORD? Do they speak from the Holy Spirit or something else? Obviously Christ is the VINE, that is not in dispute. However, your disrespect is! It is that which I am pointing out! Do not put on AIRS concerning the Apostles, they who labored tirelessly to bring you EVERYTHING YOU KNOW OF CHRIST! Without them being the first, we would not know our Lord. Curb your tongue, you are but a disciple NOT A TEACHER. They are! And they continue their teachings in the Spirit today! I have not MIXED UP MY ROCKS! What in the WORLD are you talking about!

The correct word is not "apostle", but as Jesus Himself called them, is: "disciple." Which is one who follows and learns.

The Holy Spirit is promised to all who are born again of the spirit of God...not just the eleven or twelve.

Indeed, I am no respecter of persons...well, sometimes.

What I know of Christ is from God. If it were merely from men, I would not likely have believed it. But I knew the Lord first, not after reading His word.

What is is to you if I am a teacher or a disciple or not - you see to yourself, and follow whom you will follow.

As for mixing your rocks: There is the Rock of ages, and there is Peter the rock - and some have them confused as being one and the same.

 

[EndTimeWine]

The correct word is not "apostle", but as Jesus Himself called them, is: "disciple." Which is one who follows and learns.

The Holy Spirit is promised to all who are born again of the spirit of God...not just the eleven or twelve.

Indeed, I am no respecter of persons...well, sometimes.

What I know of Christ is from God. If it were merely from men, I would not likely have believed it. But I knew the Lord first, not after reading His word.

What is is to you if I am a teacher or a disciple or not - you see to yourself, and follow whom you will follow.

As for mixing your rocks: There is the Rock of ages, and there is Peter the rock - and some have them confused as being one and the same.

Christ calls them disciples as they were learning, they are Called APOSTLES when they began TEACHING the WORLD ABOUT CHRIST after His death, resurrection and ascension into heaven. They are who Christ commissioned to build the Body . THEY ARE TEACHERS= Apostles and is who you or anyone learns about Christ from, somethings are elementary. God Bless!

 

[ScottA]

Actually - you may be related to His Church as part of a splinter group - but you aren't IN it.
Christ's Church is ONE - not tens of thousands of sects all teaching different doctrines.

I did not say "we" as in a group, but rather I said "I" am. But you have a problem with groups and I do not.

Indeed, Christ's church is one [body]. But the man of sin has many wives and many children, and many who think they are to be married have already taken another husband.

 

[ScottA]

Christ calls them disciples as they were learning, they are Called APOSTLES when they began TEACHING the WORLD ABOUT CHRIST after His death, resurrection and ascension into heaven. They are who Christ commissioned to build the Body . THEY ARE TEACHERS= Apostles and is who you or anyone learns about Christ from, somethings are elementary. God Bless!

You misunderstand.

I have nothing but respect for what Christ has done and whom he has chosen to serve in the building of his church. But, it is not men whom build, but rather Him who sent them.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I did not say "we" as in a group, but rather I said "I" am. But you have a problem with groups and I do not.

Indeed, Christ's church is one [body]. But the man of sin has many wives and many children, and many who think they are to be married have already taken another husband.

Indeed, Christ's Body is ONE - not tens of thousand - or even 1+1, as in your case.

 

[EndTimeWine]

You misunderstand.

I have nothing but respect for what Christ has done and whom he has chosen to serve in the building of his church. But, it is not men whom build, but rather Him who sent them.

Obviously Christ is the builder or greater than that, Architect, and the Apostles His foremen you are but a laborer under them. You can not by-pass the Apostles and place your thinking above theirs. You are NOT AN APOSTLE. And you are not the first to know. God Bless!

 

[bbyrd009]

2If I am not an apostle to others, at least I am to you, for you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord.

Strong's Greek: 652. ἀπόστολος (apostolos) -- a messenger, one sent on a mission, an apostle

i could dig up the command Scott is following to go if you like.

also,
"Have I not chosen you Twelve? Yet one of you is a demon!"

 

[EndTimeWine]

2If I am not an apostle to others, at least I am to you, for you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord.

Strong's Greek: 652. ἀπόστολος (apostolos) -- a messenger, one sent on a mission, an apostle

i could dig up the command Scott is following to go if you like.

also,
"Have I not chosen you Twelve? Yet one of you is a demon!"

Don't hurt yourself. He was speaking to Jews in Corinth. They received him while other Jews elsewhere rejected him. Go wait in the truck! Keep digging. The Holy Spirit reveals scriptural meaning. All you will accomplish is digging a hole for yourself, with your disrespect of the Apostles. None of us wants to be a Judas. That will not happen if one does not try to force the hand of God and think his method is better than God's.

 

[ScottA]

Obviously Christ is the builder or greater than that, Architect, and the Apostles His foremen you are but a laborer under them. You can not by-pass the Apostles and place your thinking above theirs. You are NOT AN APOSTLE. And you are not the first to know. God Bless!

Apostle is a title given to men by men, and no man is over another, except Christ, by who I also speak. But you do not know me, why should you run the risk of offending the Holy Spirit?

 

[EndTimeWine]

Apostle is a title given to men by men, and no man is over another, except Christ, by who I also speak. But you do not know me, why should you run the risk of offending the Holy Spirit?

You learned about Christ through whom?

 

[ScottA]

You learned about Christ through whom?

I called out to God before hearing any words from men. He answered, and I was caught up in the spirit and told of myself and of Him. He then lead me to a bible wherein He confirmed every point by the Spirit, the same Spirit whom Christ sent to the apostles, whom He sends to all who are born again of the spirit of God.