Is it time for Christians to become more accepting towards muslims in politics?

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actually in my experience they are separated, but i guess there are exceptions, Saudi Arabia, Iran
and of course the US is the one keeping those versions of Sharia rolling, The Saudis were chosen by US, the Shah was installed by US, and we are responsible for the condition of the mideast today. Took a lot of research to even find Wahhabis, i guess
 
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Not only London the north of England is even worse!!
Not much gets reported , it gets hushed. But, we know that is the name of the game...and stupid people put their head in the sand..they don't want to know..they's rather live happy today and not think about tomorrow.
The governments are selling out our countries, and fast.
how's Anarchy lookin' now :)
 
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how's Anarchy lookin' now :)

George Sorus ?? I don't know. World Banks...who really behind it all?

What we are seeing out front is the decoy, it's what is happening behind closed doors that we have no idea about...whatever happens next, will still be planned.
 
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I agree.
Anarchy is next.
ha, anarchy is, and it is waiting for anyone who seeks it. Thriving communities of anarchists @ Craigslist, farmer's markets, etc imo. Ladies with funny little bonnets, etc. You don't ever have to walk into a grocery store for food if you don't want to.
 

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George Sorus ?? I don't know. World Banks...who really behind it all?

What we are seeing out front is the decoy, it's what is happening behind closed doors that we have no idea about...whatever happens next, will still be planned.
passing away seems to be the plan there i guess. Don't look and you won't have to see! Do we peer in expecting, what, things might improve there, or something?
 

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Just as I thought.
You've got your head n the sand.
Good Curry.
You make fun with a serious situation.
So you're one of the that wants Europe to be ruined.
Goody gum drops.
Anyway, too late. It already is.
Londoners tend to take a good curry rather seriously. So that you think curry is a joke suggests to me that you’ve never been to London (or Sweden, or Germany for that matter). What is kind of funny though is that you are trying to tell me that places I frequently go to are ‘NoGoZones’. So where do you get your ‘intel’ from? Trustworthy guys like this:
?

See, bygrace, you may think I’m putting my head in the sand when I’m not the least bit afraid of my kids Muslim schoolfriends and their parents, my local grocer, corner-shop-owner, barber … . But I’d say I’m just not blinded by hate and prejudice. You may want to overcome these negative feelings by the love that stems from the connection with Jesus Christ and that by its very nature extends past one’s own in-group.
 
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Londoners tend to take a good curry rather seriously. So that you think curry is a joke suggests to me that you’ve never been to London (or Sweden, or Germany for that matter). What is kind of funny though is that you are trying to tell me that places I frequently go to are ‘NoGoZones’. So where do you get your ‘intel’ from? Trustworthy guys like this:
?

See, bygrace, you may think I’m putting my head in the sand when I’m not the least bit afraid of my kids Muslim schoolfriends and their parents, my local grocer, corner-shop-owner, barber … . But I’d say I’m just not blinded by hate and prejudice. You may want to overcome these negative feelings by the love that stems from the connection with Jesus Christ and that by its very nature extends past one’s own in-group.
I really care not where you've been or to tell you where I've been.
I do want to say that you have no clue what a no-go zone is.

It does NOT mean that YOU can't go there.
Read up on it and maybe make another trip to London---
where I've never been.
LOL
 
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Londoners tend to take a good curry rather seriously. So that you think curry is a joke suggests to me that you’ve never been to London (or Sweden, or Germany for that matter). What is kind of funny though is that you are trying to tell me that places I frequently go to are ‘NoGoZones’. So where do you get your ‘intel’ from? Trustworthy guys like this:
?

See, bygrace, you may think I’m putting my head in the sand when I’m not the least bit afraid of my kids Muslim schoolfriends and their parents, my local grocer, corner-shop-owner, barber … . But I’d say I’m just not blinded by hate and prejudice. You may want to overcome these negative feelings by the love that stems from the connection with Jesus Christ and that by its very nature extends past one’s own in-group.
P.S.
Your head is not only in the sand, you're probably Muslim.
That's OK, we Christians won't cut your head off.

Oh. And BTW, My name is NOT ByGrace.
At least get THAT straight.

BTW, Do you suppose Jesus would have approved of HIS people, you know, the cross wearers, getting their heads chopped off by the brothers of Ishmael ??
 
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Londoners tend to take a good curry rather seriously. So that you think curry is a joke suggests to me that you’ve never been to London (or Sweden, or Germany for that matter). What is kind of funny though is that you are trying to tell me that places I frequently go to are ‘NoGoZones’. So where do you get your ‘intel’ from? Trustworthy guys like this:
?

See, bygrace, you may think I’m putting my head in the sand when I’m not the least bit afraid of my kids Muslim schoolfriends and their parents, my local grocer, corner-shop-owner, barber … . But I’d say I’m just not blinded by hate and prejudice. You may want to overcome these negative feelings by the love that stems from the connection with Jesus Christ and that by its very nature extends past one’s own in-group.
Wow. So London IS becoming all muslim!
I'll bet you're happy.
I'll bet REAL Londoners are NOT.
 
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I really care not where you've been or to tell you where I've been.
I do want to say that you have no clue what a no-go zone is.

It does NOT mean that YOU can't go there.
Read up on it and maybe make another trip to London---
where I've never been.
LOL
Care to explain what you mean by a “no-go-zone” then? I’ll be in London in May and would like to check it out.
 
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Wow. So London IS becoming all muslim!
I'll bet you're happy.
I'll bet REAL Londoners are NOT.
While demographically London has probably the largest percentage of Muslims in all of Britain (Not sure, maybe Birmingham has, can't be asked to look it up), it’s unlikely that it will ever be all Muslim. I happen to be married to a real Londoner: well, there's some Froggies, Scots and Welshmen in the Family tree, but he was born and raised there. And my husband and his Family regard the mostly Muslim British Bengalis who’ve lived in London for generations as real Londoners, too. You’ll probably find it hard to get your head round this, but one of the things we like about London is its vibrant multiculturalism: orthodox Jews, Hindus, Sikh, Muslims, Anglicans and Irish Catholics, Punks and Bankers … all of them real Londoners. Great city! Guess how boring it would be if all it had to offer were pearly kings.
 
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Your head is not only in the sand, you're probably Muslim.
That's OK, we Christians won't cut your head off.

Oh. And BTW, My name is NOT ByGrace.
At least get THAT straight.

BTW, Do you suppose Jesus would have approved of HIS people, you know, the cross wearers, getting their heads chopped off by the brothers of Ishmael ??
First of all: sorry for mixing up your name.

Secondly: sorry for fulfilling a common cliché about Germans, but while I've got a thick skin, I do feel compelled to remind you of the forum rules: “[*]Do not state or imply that another member or group of members who have identified themselves as Christian are not Christians. If there is an issue where a member seems to have circumvented the basic tenants of the faith in order to join the community, please privately contact the Christianity Board Team to voice your concern.” Christianity Board Forum Rules

Thirdly I don’t quite see how your question relates to anything I’ve written, but let me try to answer it: I and most Christians in my part of the world do indeed view Christian martyrs as role models who fulfilled Christ’s will as expressed for instance in Mark 8:34-38, whereas we’d regard a “Christian hate-mongerer” as a contradiction in terms. So - if you want to live up to your forum-name - maybe you should take a leaf out of Stephen’s book, who prayed for those who stoned him (Acts 7:60) just as the Lord prayed for those who crucified Him (Luke 23:34).
 
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Care to explain what you mean by a “no-go-zone” then? I’ll be in London in May and would like to check it out.
I don't think I care to.
You could ask your husband, or his family, or someone in London when you're there next trip.

Oh. You might wan't to ask a policeman what a no-go zone is. He'll know for sure since HE is not allowed there.
 
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While demographically London has probably the largest percentage of Muslims in all of Britain (Not sure, maybe Birmingham has, can't be asked to look it up), it’s unlikely that it will ever be all Muslim. I happen to be married to a real Londoner: well, there's some Froggies, Scots and Welshmen in the Family tree, but he was born and raised there. And my husband and his Family regard the mostly Muslim British Bengalis who’ve lived in London for generations as real Londoners, too. You’ll probably find it hard to get your head round this, but one of the things we like about London is its vibrant multiculturalism: orthodox Jews, Hindus, Sikh, Muslims, Anglicans and Irish Catholics, Punks and Bankers … all of them real Londoners. Great city! Guess how boring it would be if all it had to offer were pearly kings.
If all it had to offer was pearly kings, it would be much more livable.
For instance, persons wouldn't be worried about having a knife stuck somewhere in them as the innocently walk a street, any street.

But what do I know?
YOU are the London expert...
 
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First of all: sorry for mixing up your name.

Secondly: sorry for fulfilling a common cliché about Germans, but while I've got a thick skin, I do feel compelled to remind you of the forum rules: “[*]Do not state or imply that another member or group of members who have identified themselves as Christian are not Christians. If there is an issue where a member seems to have circumvented the basic tenants of the faith in order to join the community, please privately contact the Christianity Board Team to voice your concern.” Christianity Board Forum Rules

Thirdly I don’t quite see how your question relates to anything I’ve written, but let me try to answer it: I and most Christians in my part of the world do indeed view Christian martyrs as role models who fulfilled Christ’s will as expressed for instance in Mark 8:34-38, whereas we’d regard a “Christian hate-mongerer” as a contradiction in terms. So - if you want to live up to your forum-name - maybe you should take a leaf out of Stephen’s book, who prayed for those who stoned him (Acts 7:60) just as the Lord prayed for those who crucified Him (Luke 23:34).
First, I don't really care if you get my name wrong. I have a thick skin too. But there IS another poster here by the name of By Grace, and golly, she's a whole lot nicer than I ever will be.

Second, no problem with the German thing. You know me - haven't been anywhere, don't know anybody there. No problem. I just like to dream things up for arguments sake... Also, you don't need to throw rules at me. We have moderators here that are rather good at doing their job. If you're NOT a muslim, you could just say so. I happen to have a friend that's a muslim. OH NO!!!

Third, THIS Christian will not go quietly to have her head chopped off.
Some kind of fight will happen, either physically or phychologically, or whatever.

You like martyrs ? Nice.
I like ALIVE Christians. Which is how it SHOULD be.

Instead of being for martyrs, why not demand that Christians be allowed to live???
 

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well, where Sharia is voluntary--which is pretty much everywhere, exceptions already noted--no law is imposed; one agrees to abide by the decision beforehand

When any law is inforce, whether a secular or relgious law it is never voluntary.

You may claim to obey 'voluntarily' in reality you either obey or take the consquences.

Where sharia law is enforces everyone is covered by it, muslims, Christians and pagans alike.
 
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