Greatest War the World has ever Seen coming very Soon!

[Helen]

Okay, every one listen to me.
I'm the specialist on this subject.

1. The pre-trib rapture is always a week from Tuesday.
In others words, keep dreaming.
2. No one in this world today will see any type of rapture.
We will all die before then.
3. Keep looking up?
Yeah, because you're gonna die, be ready to meet your maker.
4. Interpret Revelation properly?
Take any ten specialists on the subject and you'll get 10 different opinions.
5. Wake up people, live for today, you aren't promised tomorrow.

Very good Ha!
Agree...two thumbs up. :)

 

[aspen]

The Bible says clearly that the Sabbath is Saturday. No, I am not a Seventh Day Adventist, in case someone is going to assume that I am.

But I see what you are saying here, I get it...ok...but why did he change it then?

I came to add to my post: Nero also blamed the great fire of 64 A.D. on the Christians, as he wanted to keep the blame off of himself.

“The position now dominant in Western Christianity is that observance of the Lord's Day, Sunday, supplanted or superseded the Sabbath commandment in that the former "celebrated the Christian community's deliverance from captivity to sin, Satan, and worldly passions, made possible by the resurrection on the first day of the week."[3][4] Early Christians observed the seventh day with prayer and rest, but they also gathered on the first day. By the 4th century, Christians were officially observing the first day, Sunday, as their day of rest, not the seventh.”

Nero did not change the sabbath.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Wrong!

Well, that certainly adds to the conversation.
Thanks.

 

[pompadour]

Wrong!

I said that you are wrong because you said that no one alive today will see the end times.
I will be here to see the end.
I talked about it in this discussion if you want to read about it.
Pomp.

End time predictions
Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by shilohsfoal, Oct 21, 2017.

 

[pompadour]

Click on the Oct 21 date for the Discussion.

 

[TammyinWI]

“The position now dominant in Western Christianity is that observance of the Lord's Day, Sunday, supplanted or superseded the Sabbath commandment in that the former "celebrated the Christian community's deliverance from captivity to sin, Satan, and worldly passions, made possible by the resurrection on the first day of the week."[3][4] Early Christians observed the seventh day with prayer and rest, but they also gathered on the first day. By the 4th century, Christians were officially observing the first day, Sunday, as their day of rest, not the seventh.”

Nero did not change the sabbath.

Scripture plainly says that the day after the day Jesus was Crucified, Friday, was the Sabbath, and on the third day, Sunday, He rose again.

I don't know who wrote the above intellectual rambling, and it doesn't hold any water with me...I will stick with Scripture instead of a man making the decision. Jesus said that if you love Him, you will keep the Commandments. I still am in the camp that thinks it was Nero that decided to switch the day. I could go find a source to quote, but I am not going to bother.

I thought that I would look for this, and so since it works both ways, you decide what you want:

Colossians 2:16 (NRSV)
Therefore do not let anyone condemn you in matters of food and drink or of observing festivals, new moons, or Sabbaths.

 

[TammyinWI]

I said that you are wrong because you said that no one alive today will see the end times.
I will be here to see the end.
I talked about it in this discussion if you want to read about it.
Pomp.

End time predictions
Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by shilohsfoal, Oct 21, 2017.

I missed that part of the conversation, so I am probably missing something important at this point, but I have known since I was little that I would be here to see the end. At this point in my life, I know without a doubt, I am 100% sure, that I will be here, too, for it.

 

[aspen]

Scripture plainly says that the day after the day Jesus was Crucified, Friday, was the Sabbath, and on the third day, Sunday, He rose again.

I don't know who wrote the above intellectual rambling, and it doesn't hold any water with me...I will stick with Scripture instead of a man making the decision. Jesus said that if you love Him, you will keep the Commandments. I still am in the camp that thinks it was Nero that decided to switch the day. I could go find a source to quote, but I am not going to bother.

I thought that I would look for this, and so since it works both ways, you decide what you want:

Colossians 2:16 (NRSV)
Therefore do not let anyone condemn you in matters of food and drink or of observing festivals, new moons, or Sabbaths.

No one switched the day

 

[TammyinWI]

You bet someone changed the day, and I believe that it was Nero.

Sunday is the first day of the week. Look at the calendar, and read your Bible:

Matthew 28 (NRSV)

28 After the sabbath, as the first day of the week was dawning, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the tomb. 2 And suddenly there was a great earthquake; for an angel of the Lord, descending from heaven, came and rolled back the stone and sat on it. 3 His appearance was like lightning, and his clothing white as snow. 4 For fear of him the guards shook and became like dead men. 5 But the angel said to the women, “Do not be afraid; I know that you are looking for Jesus who was crucified. 6 He is not here; for he has been raised, as he said. Come, see the place where hea]'>[a] lay. 7 Then go quickly and tell his disciples, ‘He has been raised from the dead,b]'>[b] and indeed he is going ahead of you to Galilee; there you will see him.’ This is my message for you.” 8 So they left the tomb quickly with fear and great joy, and ran to tell his disciples. 9 Suddenly Jesus met them and said, “Greetings!” And they came to him, took hold of his feet, and worshiped him. 10 Then Jesus said to them, “Do not be afraid; go and tell my brothers to go to Galilee; there they will see me.”

 

[aspen]

You bet someone changed the day, and I believe that it was Nero.

Sunday is the first day of the week. Look at the calendar, and read your Bible:

Matthew 28 (NRSV)

28 After the sabbath, as the first day of the week was dawning, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the tomb. 2 And suddenly there was a great earthquake; for an angel of the Lord, descending from heaven, came and rolled back the stone and sat on it. 3 His appearance was like lightning, and his clothing white as snow. 4 For fear of him the guards shook and became like dead men. 5 But the angel said to the women, “Do not be afraid; I know that you are looking for Jesus who was crucified. 6 He is not here; for he has been raised, as he said. Come, see the place where hea]'>[a] lay. 7 Then go quickly and tell his disciples, ‘He has been raised from the dead,b]'>[b] and indeed he is going ahead of you to Galilee; there you will see him.’ This is my message for you.” 8 So they left the tomb quickly with fear and great joy, and ran to tell his disciples. 9 Suddenly Jesus met them and said, “Greetings!” And they came to him, took hold of his feet, and worshiped him. 10 Then Jesus said to them, “Do not be afraid; go and tell my brothers to go to Galilee; there they will see me.”

Well, don’t let history stop you!

 

[Jay Ross]

I missed that part of the conversation, so I am probably missing something important at this point, but I have known since I was little that I would be here to see the end. At this point in my life, I know without a doubt, I am 100% sure, that I will be here, too, for it.

Really, the end of the age of the ages is still 1,050 years off, give or take a deade either way, into our distant future. Are you hoping for miracle to live that long are you?

 

[TammyinWI]

Really, the end of the age of the ages is still 1,050 years off, give or take a deade either way, into our distant future. Are you hoping for miracle to live that long are you?

I don't think I will. But the Lord gave me a vision of my own death, and I am nobody special, but take heed, please!

 

[TammyinWI]

Well, don’t let history stop you!

The Bible tells me, and everyone, that the Sabbath is Saturday.

 

[Truth]

In your dreams ... I think not...things are moving faster.

I agree with your " I Think Not" I want to give everyone a thought to ponder, OK! God Instituted into reality a Calendar, by which all peoples were aware of in the old Days, And I do mean OLD Day's. God establishes, Day's Month's and Years, according to HIS purpose. Read Leviticus 23, within these there is a time line, which God establishes His Calendar, by which we should fallow! The calendar we have today was established by Pope Gregory, thus the Gregorian Calendar, which uses for every day of the week a name derived from Pagan god's names, and every Month, is named after a deity, and or Emperor, with the exception of Sept, Oct, Nov, and Dec. So If anyone give's you a date, even a date that is not specific according to the Gregorian Calendar then we should not consider it to be Authentic. God will bring about His Will according to His timing, not what we hold to in this world! God run's this world according to His Will not our's, it is as if the hand's are missing from the Clock, and we do not know what time it is!! According to Scripture, Prophetically, the Generation that was at the time of Israel's rebirth, becoming a state or Nation in one Day would see the Coming of Our Lord! this Generation, from 1948 until today still exist's. It won't be here in One thousand year's!

 

[Truth]

The Bible tells me, and everyone, that the Sabbath is Saturday.

So do you except the Sabbath in it's original day, if so Praise God + 1. For you do not bare the Root, But the root bare's Us, to Yahovah be the Glory, AMN

 

[OzSpen]

Greatest War the World has ever Seen coming very Soon!
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Greatest War the World has ever Seen coming very Soon! Revelation 9:13-16 Then the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,...

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GIS,

From where did you get such interpretations?

Please put a date on when this Great War will begin.

Oz

 

[aspen]

The Bible tells me, and everyone, that the Sabbath is Saturday.

Who claims it is Sunday?

 

[Josho]

In your dreams ... I think not...things are moving faster.

Yes they are, you only gotta look how rapidly the number of non-Christians are growing whether they be backsliders or kids growing up in non-Christian families, when Jesus says he will come back in the hour least expected, a lot of people are forgetting about that hour, and are out there drinking getting drunk, out their smoking their hookah, out their getting up to every kinda thing that is displeasing to God, the time is coming soon, because a growing number of people aren't expecting Jesus to come anytime soon.

 

[rwb]

The Book of Revelation was written about 2100 years ago and was written to the 7 churches of Asia. Most of these churches had a lot of Jews that had been scattered from Jerusalem.

If you notice when John starts the vision, in verse 1 and also at the end of the book in chapter 22 verse 6 that he basically says the same thing again. In verse 1 John tells his audience, the 7 churches, “… THESE THINGS MUST SHORTLY TAKE PLACE.” The Koine Greek here for “shortly take place” means “at your elbow, speedly, shortly, etc.”
Then in verse 3 of the first chapter and at the end of the book, 22:10 John again repeats himself and says “FOR THE TIME IS NEAR.”

John starts the vision of Revelation, tells them this must shortly take place, gives the vision, then finishes and looks back at his audience and tells them (my words), remember, “…this must soon take place.”

Now, anyone with common sense would know John didn’t mean 2100 years later.

I agree, as we read the passages that speak of things that must shortly take place, it is foolish to think John meant two thousand plus years into the future. But OTOH, why do you believe this phrase makes sense if John means the things that must shorty take place will not come until about thirty years into the future, or 70 AD?

Here is a vision fulfilled in less than 400 years after it was received and God says “seal it up for its fulfillment is a long way away.” Why was John told the very opposite of Daniel? Well, come on, say it to yourself!

Daniel's vision was sealed up until the time of the end. The vision of John introduces us to the time of the end that Daniel foresaw but did not understand. Daniel's vision would be the time when "many shall be purified, and made white, and tried"...."that only the wise shall understand." That vision of Daniel is the timing for the vision John received that he was instructed to give to the churches "of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ". It is through the witness of John giving the churches the testimony of Jesus Christ that "many shall be purified, and made white, and tried"..."that only the wise shall understand."

Daniel 12:4 (KJV) But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Daniel 12:9 (KJV) And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

Daniel 12:10 (KJV) Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

Revelation 1:2 (KJV) Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

The visions of both Daniel and John are visions pertaining to the church age when the gospel of the Kingdom of God is to be preached to all nations that the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven shall be complete. This is why John's vision speaks of "things which must shortly come to pass", and Daniel's vision speaking of the same period of time speaks of things that would not come to pass till the time of the end. Which is the time we entered when Christ came to earth a man. The New Testament writes of this time as "these last days" which began with the coming of Christ and was made manifest at Pentecost when the Spirit was poured out.

Acts 2:17 (KJV) And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Neither Daniel nor John were writing of Christ coming again in the flesh, but both were writing of the time when the gospel of the Kingdom of God was to be proclaimed through the power of Christ in us through His Spirit, that the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven would be built. That is the time for which all that John writes must shortly (without any more delay, but speedily/quickly) come to pass as the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven is built as whosoever hears and believes the gospel through the power of the Spirit is eternally saved.

It does not point to two thousand plus years into the future, nor does it point to 70 AD that was about thirty years away! When John writes "shortly", he is speaking of the timing of the gospel of the Kingdom of God that shall be proclaimed unto all the nations of the world will quickly, suddenly, shortly, without any longer a delay that began to fill the Kingdom of God in heaven as people are being born again. This time period that was ushered in with the first advent of Christ shall not end until the last/seventh trumpet sounds.

 

[Earburner]

Greatest War the World has ever Seen coming very Soon!
03-26-18, 09:44 PM
Greatest War the World has ever Seen coming very Soon! Revelation 9:13-16 Then the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,

14 one saying to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, “Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.”

15 And the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released so that they would kill a third of mankind.

16 The number of the armies of the horsemen was two hundred million; I heard the number of them.

I agree 100%

Just after the rapture Iran, Syria, Turkey backed by Russia will attack tiny Israel and God will defend Israel and defeat their enemies but 1/3 of all mankind= 2 1/2 billion will die in that war.

I disagree 100%.
In my opinion, there will be no conjured up rapture, that has been fabricated by church-ianity.

However, that "planned" WW3 will bring on a global, economic collapse, causing a "social cataclysm", whereby countries worldwide will have to ration fuel, medicines, foodstuffs, etc.
At that point, that is when the [economic] mark of the beast will be manifested and instituted on a Global scale, all of which will be monitored and controlled by the "image of the beast", which is the United Nations.

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As for the video of Irvin Baxter, I do agree to a good amount of it. However as an Amillennial believer, I see the Euphrates War (WW3) as only a very severe war caused by Satan.
It is NOT Armageddon.

"WHEN" [written twice in the KJV] the Lord returns in flaming fire, in all his VISIBLE Immortal Glory, as described in KJV 2 Thes. 1:7-10. It will be a simultaneous event of the redemption of God's Saints and the fiery destruction of all the living wicked unsaved, where also all of 2 Peter ch. 3 will be fulfilled.
THAT will be Armageddon.