Rollo Tamasi
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But who's been blotted out?
You can't say a Christian has been blotted out.
We are not to judge another person's servant.
Blotted out of The Book Of Life?
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You can't say a Christian has been blotted out.
We are not to judge another person's servant.
Learning to Love Him reminds me of these lyrics from the song going to Narnia by The 2nd Chapter Of Acts 60's-70's Jesus music, as they called it then:Great post. It gave me pause to reconsider. I reluctantly have to agree
...We do learn to slowly love God more and more as we walk with Him in deeper union.
Love is not instant or fully mature at the beginning.
But whatever ...I do know that the threat of hell did not draw me to God in some kind of escape...it was a longing for the peace of knowing that I would be with Him. I couldn't stand the thought of no-God at the end of life.
I asked Him to show me how I could have that assurance...I was 22 and had my life ahead of me.
Thanks....H
Are you going to Narnia?
Take me along with you
To meet the Lamb who is a Lion
I want to learn to love Him too
Full Song Lyrics: http://www.lyrster.com/lyrics/are-you-goin-to-narnia-lyrics-2nd-chapter-of-acts.html#ixzz5MGXbkoHN
Read more at http://www.lyrster.com/lyrics/are-y...-2nd-chapter-of-acts.html#4yb5C51RJLGmTJtk.99
Their awesomely beautiful voices never get old ♥
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New to me...I never ever heard that. Never so much even knew that there was a song.
I love the Narnia Chronicles....and have 'been there' more than once in dreams. Still have all the books.
Grew up as a child "loving Aslan. "
Do you know I have never read itNew to me...I never ever heard that. Never so much even knew that there was a song.
I love the Narnia Chronicles....and have 'been there' more than once in dreams. Still have all the books.
Grew up as a child "loving Aslan. "
Always meaning to but-I have so very many books because my friend/sister sends me boxes from Tennessee! I do know her, she is not an online friend/sister....she is 79...Loves the lord and we speak on the phone a several x a month. ♥I am going to order the books...gonna find them on Amazon!! That's it! lol
Rollo Tamasi
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I'm happy that we agree on this P.
It's important.
It's possible to fall away, but it's not probable.
Some points...
1. I loved God right away (when becoming born again).
2. A wife IS required to love her husband. Am I required to hate him?
3. We may throw the word "love" around, but I'll bet most of us knows what it means to love.
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The scriptures speaks of submission:
"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord." Eph 5:22
But then what is included in the two greatest commandments?
"Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment.
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." Matt 22:37-39
Is not our spouse first our neighbor before becoming a spouse?
Very good thought.
Also, in the same book of Ephesians Paul said that the husband is to love the wife as he loves his own body. As Jesus loves the Body, the church.
Ephesians 5:25, 28
Without this balance the wife would end up being a servant only, and not a helper as was intended in Genesis.
Genesis 2:18
Rollo Tamasi
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So you say to God, "I love you, but I don't love you that much".
He understands, all the way to the bottom of the bottomless pit.....
I don't understand what you mean.
Please explain.
I don't know where it says for the wife to love her husband. It does say for the husband to love the wife and for the wife to submit to the husband in (Eph.) as you pointed out in another post. I don't see how that is a 'balance' as you say. The husband is required to love and the wife is required to submit.
Of course you are not required to hate your husband. And it certainly doesn't mean you won't love your husband. But because God has set it up like He has I think it all depends on the man. If the man loves his wife, as he is required, then the wife will respond and love him also. If the man does not love his wife the woman will not love the husband.
You have this pictured very well in the Gospel of John. John was known as the 'disciple whom Jesus loved'. In his Gospel John alludes to this 5 times. (John, 13:23, 19:26, 20:2, 21:7, 21:20)
You remember Peter made a great boast of never being offended in Christ. (Matt. 26:33) But once the arrest and trial and crucifixion began, where was Peter. With worldlings denying the Lord. But, John was known as the disciple whom Jesus loved. And where was he at the crucifixion? At the foot of the cross. John knew the love of Christ and so responded with a deep love for Christ. As John would later write in (1 John 4:10)
And notice what Jesus said to Peter after the resurrection. (John 21:15-17) "Lovest thou me?"
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It's insanity, really, all that " un-sureness". And...how can you have the peace and hope we are supposed to have?
Absolutely, all true! Lot's of peaks and valleys since 1992. I have learned much but...that will never stop. As long as we are teachable and continually seek His face.
"... continue to sin" <--- = an UN-saved person, will continue to live in sin...a saved one will not as it does not fit a true child of God.
Keep your weapons close at hand!
Peace to you,
-nancy
"Psalm 69:28 Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous."
“He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels” (Rev. 3:5).
“And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book” (Rev. 22:19).
Again I find myself questioning my view. Yes Rollo, wishy washy nancy just cannot make up her mind! Thought I'd save you that barb...lol
How does one reconcile the above verses to OSAS? I DO believe that if one has true saving grace, they will NOT walk away, or falter. So, if we are saved, how can one be blotted out of this magnificent book of Life? Can we become unsaved...I hate this stupid fence I find myself on allot lately
There are Book(S).
Rev 20:12
Rev 20:12 identifies a Book of Life.
All who are bodily formed by God, AND receive His Living soul, via his Breath, have their Body quickened to Life. They are naturally Living, and Identified IN the Book of Life.
That is the book from which all accounts of that mans earthly life and works shall be judged.
That is also the book from which a mans name can be blotted out.
There is also the Lamb's Book of Life, to which no man's name can be blotted out.
Rev. 21:27
Rev 13: 8
Reconcilation to OSAS...? A mans name can never be blotted out of the Lambs Book of Life.
We are also told God keeps an accounting of Works a man Does do that glorifies His great name. It does not speak directly of a specific Book, but does notify us He stores up blessings and rewards for men who have Glorified His name, and knows what each has or has not done.
Any works, done by a man in Christ, not Glorifying to God, are works that shall be burned.
God Bless,
Taken
There are Book(S).
Rev 20:12
Rev 20:12 identifies a Book of Life.
All who are bodily formed by God, AND receive His Living soul, via his Breath, have their Body quickened to Life. They are naturally Living, and Identified IN the Book of Life.
That is the book from which all accounts of that mans earthly life and works shall be judged.
That is also the book from which a mans name can be blotted out.
There is also the Lamb's Book of Life, to which no man's name can be blotted out.
Rev. 21:27
Rev 13: 8
Reconcilation to OSAS...? A mans name can never be blotted out of the Lambs Book of Life.
We are also told God keeps an accounting of Works a man Does do that glorifies His great name. It does not speak directly of a specific Book, but does notify us He stores up blessings and rewards for men who have Glorified His name, and knows what each has or has not done.
Any works, done by a man in Christ, not Glorifying to God, are works that shall be burned.
God Bless,
Taken
Yes Taken, that makes sense to me, ty! Yes-He opened the BOOKS, not just one!
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Since the lost are already spiritually dead, the only death left for them to suffer is physical death...in the Lake of Fire...where they pass out of existence.
Yes, "Gehenna" is the Lake of Fire, where the lost will eventually be cast to be "burned up" and pass out of existence.
Yes, that separation occurs when the flames consume them and they pass out of existence.
Can you blame them? Imagine a young college student approaches a pretty girl and says, "Hi, I like and would really love to get to know you and maybe we could fall in love and get married someday...and if you refuse, I will cause you to suffer the most unspeakably horrific, perpetual, inescapable pain that you can't even imagine. Whadya say?" Atheists are 100% correct to reject that kind of God, which no Scripture in Scripture depicts.
Though human reason is enough to reject the idea of "Eternal Torment", I assure you that not one shred of human reason is necessary to disprove the idea - God's Word is all that is required.
What do you base this belief that the spiritually dead when cast into the Lake of Fire, pass out of existence.
Yes, I have no problem blaming the atheist in their attempt to posture themselves as holier than God. Just as you do when you say the spiritually dead pass out of existence after being thrown into the Lake of Fire. You posture yourself as holier than God, as though you know the correct punishment of sin against God.
Your scenario of approaching a girl and asking for a date is stupid. The Gospel message is believe on Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins. Not, can I have a date with you. Infantile.
You do not interpret Scripture on the basis of human reasoning. Of course that is the way atheists interpret it. Why do you? That should be your concern.
Then give God's word that disproves the reality of eternal torment in the Lake of Fire.
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