How do we become saved?
A better question is...how do we get onto the path of life? Saved is for the end...no one wins a race until the race is finished. We are redeemed to run a race...until the day of Redemption.
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How do we become saved?
I agree. Paul said this.A better question is...how do we get onto the path of life? Saved is for the end...no one wins a race until the race is finished. We are redeemed to run a race...until the day of Redemption.
Pardon my bluntness, if the theology you profess is correct, every person who is doomed to Hell has zero choice in the matter, and every person sentenced to Heaven has zero choice in the matter. Under such a Calvinistic regime, it doesn't remotely matter what any of us believe, say, or think, so there's no point to you trying to explain your view.Joshua 24:15 sounds so pleasing to the ears of those who believe man has a free choice to choose for God.
However, this must be read in light of Romans 3 where God’s assessment of the human race is: “There is NONE righteous NO NOT ONE, there is NONE that seeks after God!!!
Look at the example of the publican of Luke 18 when seeing Jesus from afar smote his breast and cried out loud, “have mercy on me a sinner.” This is the ONLY WAY anyone can seek after God IF the Father is drawing him (John 6:44).
We’ve gone round and round with this issue, why not just accept what God has declared???
Scripture cannot refute Scripture!!!
To God Be The Glory
Interesting concept!Pardon my bluntness, if the theology you profess is correct, every person who is doomed to Hell has zero choice in the matter, and every person sentenced to Heaven has zero choice in the matter. Under such a Calvinistic regime, it doesn't remotely matter what any of us believe, say, or think, so there's no point to you trying to explain your view.
Pardon my bluntness, if the theology you profess is correct, every person who is doomed to Hell has zero choice in the matter, and every person sentenced to Heaven has zero choice in the matter. Under such a Calvinistic regime, it doesn't remotely matter what any of us believe, say, or think, so there's no point to you trying to explain your view.
The invisible Kingdom of God is within believers, and is not seen with observation as Jesus said. But that is not the limit of the Kingdom. After the second coming Christ will literally establish His Kingdom on earth, which will include universal peace and righteousness. Beyond that the universe will also become the Kingdom of God.The Kingdom of God starts right here.
Abraham was saved by grace through faith, thus his salvation was eternally secure. He was also told that he would be a stranger and a pilgrim on earth, and would dwell in Canaan (the Land of Promise). He was also given a vision of the New Jerusalem, so that he would know where his eternal home was. See Hebrews 11. So he allowed Lot to choose where Lot would settle, and as we know, Lot made a very poor choice.
As to "the Kingdom" that is yet future (after the second coming of Christ). We are in the Church Age right now, and the Great Commission is the top priority of every Christian.
Yes, we are eternally secure as long as we are filled with the Holy Spirit. The problem is, some people do not remain filled, but grieve the Holy Spirit away.Eternal security is real.
It's what makes Christianity alive!
When we are filled with the Holy Spirit, we know we are with God and all his promises are ours.
It is YHWH's desire that all receive mercy, but that is not the reality. Many have already died without mercy and more will in the future (Hebrews 10:28-29).Romans 11:29-32;
29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.
30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience,
31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you.
32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
Yes, "if we believe". If we "don't believe", we will not be there. Any believer can choose to no longer believe. Destroying belief in Yeshua is the primary goal of Jewish anti-missionaries. They have successfully destroyed the faith of many, even those who were strong in the faith.We receive this eternal security because of God's mercy on us.
Ever hear of the Mercy Seat of Christ?
If we believe, we will be there.
Hi GP,Yes, we are eternally secure as long as we are filled with the Holy Spirit. The problem is, some people do not remain filled, but grieve the Holy Spirit away.
It is YHWH's desire that all receive mercy, but that is not the reality. Many have already died without mercy and more will in the future (Hebrews 10:28-29).
Yes, "if we believe". If we "don't believe", we will not be there. Any believer can choose to no longer believe. Destroying belief in Yeshua is the primary goal of Jewish anti-missionaries. They have successfully destroyed the faith of many, even those who were strong in the faith.
Enoch,The invisible Kingdom of God is within believers, and is not seen with observation as Jesus said. But that is not the limit of the Kingdom. After the second coming Christ will literally establish His Kingdom on earth, which will include universal peace and righteousness. Beyond that the universe will also become the Kingdom of God.
i'd guess more like maybe overstatements or dramatizations to like reveal or characterize a certain perspective prolly?Seems like a contradiction in terms, right?
hmm, don't recall God declaring that anywhere, but it does make a point about a certain time in a cycle i guess. But it is not meant to be taken literally anyway, the Psalm, it is painting a portrayal of a fool? Obviously whoever wrote it excluded himself immediately, etc right. Not that God is above making statements that He knows will be misconstrued anyway lol. "Hide wisdom from the wise" and "lying" are just two perspectives of the same act i guess.It is true no one seeks after God for God has declared it. Are you calling God a liar???
ha more like one cannot state a single absolute truth from Scripture, as we are seeing. Now i'm pretty sure that this pov is closer to truth, but a point here is that you don't have to get married to either pov, every now and then a kid who waits for a present actually does get a present, etc.Scripture cannot refute Scripture!!!
Yes. They primarily try to persuade people that Yeshua is not the Messiah based on how they understand Messianic prophecies.Hi GP,
You mean there are Jewish missionaries that go around the globe to actually teach against Jesus?
there are none righteous; no, not one
Noah was a righteous man
Job was a righteous man
there, the Bible just refuted Itself
Yes, God manifests His glory in various ways. And we are the benefactors of that. I guess my point is that we have not added to His glory. We have not made God more glorious than He already is. We simply become a point where His glory is displayed.
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No the Bible did not refute itself. It is you who failed to understand what was being said.there are none righteous; no, not one
Noah was a righteous man
Job was a righteous man
there, the Bible just refuted Itself
I've always found this interesting.Yes. They primarily try to persuade people that Yeshua is not the Messiah based on how they understand Messianic prophecies.
And yet such anti-missionaries are successful in leading people to renounce Yeshua. It has been my experience that those who know the Scriptures well are the most vulnerable.How anyone could doubt Jesus is the Messiah is a mystery to me.