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Although we like to pretend we know what is being spoken about in the Bible, none of us actually know what the afterlife (either WITH Jesus, or WITHOUT) will be like. It may well be that the loss of the hope of Jesus will be suffering such as we can't even imagine. I know that simply the inevitable death of loved ones has caused me more pain than any physical ache or burn I ever had.Why does hell have to be painful? Is God not satisfied with just separating the wicked, he has to inflict pain on those subjects.
Why I ask.
Truthfully Willie, I suffered worse when I was a believer. So I won't miss him if I don't end up in the Christian paradise.Although we like to pretend we know what is being spoken about in the Bible, none of us actually know what the afterlife (either WITH Jesus, or WITHOUT) will be like. It may well be that the loss of the hope of Jesus will be suffering such as we can't even imagine. I know that simply the inevitable death of loved ones has caused me more pain than any physical ache or burn I ever had.
And now pretending not to believe has stopped all pain? Or, if you had never heard of Jesus, that past pain you refer to would never have happened? I think I must have missed the part of the Bible that tells us bad things won't come into our lives.Truthfully Willie, I suffered worse when I was a believer. So I won't miss him if I don't end up in the Christian paradise.
Why does hell have to be painful? Is God not satisfied with just separating the wicked, he has to inflict pain on those subjects.
Why I ask.
Why does hell have to be painful? Is God not satisfied with just separating the wicked, he has to inflict pain on those subjects.
Why I ask.
Why does hell have to be painful? Is God not satisfied with just separating the wicked, he has to inflict pain on those subjects.
Why I ask.
And possibly even less than that being led by the Holy Ghost!the fires of hell are Norse scribes' figments of the imagination, based upon their mythology, and Christians do not know what they are talking about, and their beliefs cannot even be verified in the original text of the Bible, but only in English, as about 2 minutes with a Lexicon will prove. Souls do not go to Tartarus, and there is no punishment in Hades mythology. Just stop listening to fake Christians and you will be fine imo.
briefly, bc ppl who want to become immortal and go to heaven (Valhalla, really) to party with Jesus forever after they die cannot find any souls--not a single one--going to heaven in the Bible, so they need a hell also so that their concept of "losers" have a place to go to also. No one has ever gone up to heaven except He Who came down from it, the Son of ManWhy does hell have to be painful?
bbyrd009, why don't you stick with Norse mythology, and leave Christians to believe that the Bible reveals? This whole rant is UTTER NONSENSE.the fires of hell are Norse scribes' figments of the imagination, based upon their mythology, and Christians do not know what they are talking about. Their beliefs cannot even be verified in the original text of the Bible, but only in English, as about 2 minutes with a Lexicon will prove. Souls do not go to Tartarus, and there is no punishment in Hades mythology. Just stop listening to fake Christians and you will be fine imo.
bbyrd009, why don't you stick with Norse mythology, and leave Christians to believe that the Bible reveals? This whole rant is UTTER NONSENSE.
BTW do you identify yourself as "Christian" so that yo can play mind games on a Christian forum?
Not straight away, but little by little, day by day I recovered. Boy that was fast, only took 4 year's aftet a life time of indoctrination.And now pretending not to believe has stopped all pain? Or, if you had never heard of Jesus, that past pain you refer to would never have happened? I think I must have missed the part of the Bible that tells us bad things won't come into our lives.
I did, he doesn't talk back.Ask Him, just before that big angel grabs you by the short hairs and gives you a toss.
Stranger
It is "painful" for men ON Earth ...
"political strife, family strife, wars, threats, stabbing, shootings, diseases, pollution, corruption, religious conflicts and on and on."
"ON" Earth an "individual" has the "option" to "Choose" to be Comforted "through" strife, hardships, painful, sorrowful times Via the Holy Spirit of God.....OR not.
Living souls that have departed their dead body's WHO did Not Choose Comfort of the Holy Spirit while ON Earth,...They chose their option To have Not Have Comfort of the Holy Spirit, so be it...
God is Just...All men will receive what they Freely Choose.
God Bless,
Taken
What is so good about this God anyway? Is it that he grants eternal life (Bliss in heaven) Is this not just a punishment/reward scenario.The fires of hell extinguish life. God is not cruel. This is the second DEATH...not second torment. The confusion comes with lumping all the outcomes into one. People can't read the bible without adding in simplistic notions they have previously been taught. Like this idea of heaven and hell. There is an eternal destiny to be cast into outer darkness. Away from His presence. That is something righteous since so many people seem satisfied with a life away from God.
Intriguing.briefly, bc ppl who want to become immortal and go to heaven (Valhalla, really) to party with Jesus forever after they die cannot find any souls--not a single one--going to heaven in the Bible, so they need a hell also so that their concept of "losers" have a place to go to also. No one has ever gone up to heaven except He Who came down from it, the Son of Man
If you just Quote "if you dig a pit for someone else, you end up falling in it yourself" they will suddenly become interested in their navels again and leave you alone, usually.
What is so good about this God anyway? Is it that he grants eternal life (Bliss in heaven) Is this not just a punishment/reward scenario.