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bbyrd009

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Heb is a good heart imo. There is no judgement for beliefs, after all

As long as an heir is a child, he is no better off than a slave, even though he etcetc
 

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People go to these church rah rah rallies and the preacher says...tell your neighbour you have the life of Christ. So the compliant follower of men does as he is told. Then when you ask him...do you have life in Christ? He says...YES...just like the preacher said!
 

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The truth turns our ideas inside out. People who think they are ok....aren't and some who think they are not ok...are. Look at who God justified between the religious Pharisee and the publican sinner. Those who have walked with Christ in Zion know this too well.

The truth is that Jesus Christ died for past, present and future sins, and to think that we must do something more to add to that is false.

2 Jhn 1:2 because of the truth, which lives in us and will be with us forever:

The Pharisee was the one who depended on his works to enter the kingdom, and what did Jesus say to them?

Matt 7:22-23 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 

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nice, now you ready to discuss the half of Scripture you currently cannot face, or what
....is a man-made slogan...possibly made up by a converted used car salesman. It is from a very human perspective as it seeks guarantees.
word, i can sell Eternal Security for profit all day long; picking up your cross, not so much lol
 

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People go to these church rah rah rallies and the preacher says...tell your neighbour you have the life of Christ. So the compliant follower of men does as he is told. Then when you ask him...do you have life in Christ? He says...YES...just like the preacher said!

Well, thankfully my testimony isn't based on whether you believe me or not. God knows who truly believes and who are acting, Rom 10:9.
 
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The truth is that Jesus Christ died for past, present and future sins, and to think that we must do something more to add to that is false.

You have it backwards. Where is what you say in the bible? The bible testifies to sins THAT ARE PAST. You have just ADDED your own religious dogmatic idea to the word.
 

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People go to these church rah rah rallies and the preacher says...tell your neighbour you have the life of Christ. So the compliant follower of men does as he is told. Then when you ask him...do you have life in Christ? He says...YES...just like the preacher said!
ah, the honeymoon lol, 'member them days?
"Jesus is returning any second y'all, to come get us all"
lol, would you have listened to you either?
 
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When we are indoctrinated the bible is like a candy store of irrevocable niceties...with no strings attached. All you got to do is....act naturally!

What is totally lacking...the fear of the Lord. ..and wisdom....and the cross...and...LIFE.
 

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The Pharisee was the one who depended on his works to enter the kingdom, and what did Jesus say to them?
Christ is Who you will appear before to have your works judged,
all must appear before the judgement seat
may as well haul out your refute of this one and dust it off too i guess
little children, do not be deceived
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You have it backwards. Where is what you say in the bible? The bible testifies to sins THAT ARE PAST. You have just ADDED your own religious dogmatic idea to the word.

Neither present nor future can separate the elect in Christ, Rom 8:38-39.
 

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I came to faith in Jesus Christ in 2005, so I've been walking with Him for 13 years.

That's not what walking with Him means...I came to faith in 1980. But I have not always walked with Christ. I have walked for long periods by my own power even though I was still a Christian. i have been in and out of the Spirit. That's for real.

The problem is where people don't know the difference between grace and their own power. That's because they haven't walked any different...always in their own power.
 
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