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man, they get a lot of things right imo, but specific to your Q no birthday celebrations, right, no consumer Christmas, etc
Perhaps a definition of "self-denial" is in order. Depending upon how one calls it, the word could indicate either a good thing... or a bad one.
Thanks bbyrd!!
well, i meant a nonJW, who is more likely to have gotten ego-cover from their belief system rather than the ego-stripping JWs practice.
well, not sure how fair the study is, after all we already know that "Pastor" is a job sought by psychopaths, so recruiting ppl who are mentally unstable, this is highly subjective to me anyway. Well, i saw plenty of Dominance/submission going on in the Kingdom Hall, so let's say there are degrees at least. But there are JWs who don't fit the mold at all too i guess? maybe not, can't think of meeting any
nothing at all imo if they are voluntary, but if they are coerced by threatened shunning or anything like that, there will be unintended consequences; you can't legislate morality, basically. If you stomp on someone's ego it will split in two. If you Prohibit someone drinking wine you will just get two people, one who obeys and another who knows the secret knock lol (to the speakeasy). If you shun the wine-drinker--who after all has his favorite vv too right--who has not sinned, the others will just bury it deeper, we could get into the things your family would not appreciate you mentioning down at the Hall, the family secrets etc to illustrate this, or i could even ask google about JWs and family secrets or something along that line, i already know what's in there how bout you lol, the point being that to us your family secrets would be prolly completely unremarkable, but to you them getting out would mean the end of life as you know it right
so no offense here, but i have a 17 year old telling me about one of the biggest joys of life being a chaperoned dinner party ok
i don't know
to them, certainly; to a 7 year old who experiences all their friends getting presents while they are not, prolly not so much, right.
not sure why, but i guess i do that a lot, sorry. i could mention some of your family secrets and you would prolly get really uncomfortable, wonder if i am a witch or something lol, so i don't tell ppl that stuff anymore, that after all is only known bc it always runs in a track, together with the clues you give
ya, "joy" is the first word that comes to mind when i think JW too lol. But since i'm being evil now i'll just say "chaperoned dinner parties for teenagers," and hope i'm still being unfair, for your sake
so we got one of the strictest, most self-denying religious orgs on the planet debating whether or not to ever even fast, period, and this in a sanctioned JW site? Now you're scaring me, see?
i'm saying that sin abounds so that grace can abound the more, and attempting to legislate sin out of existence has failed every single time it has ever been tried. Condemnation is easy, it is forgiveness that is hard, and the only reason it is any harder to forgive a believer is bc they are so unlikely to confess, lest they be seen as less than perfect and shunned. Christians are not universally detested bc they sin, but bc they cannot confess imo. generally speaking that is, tbh i don't recall my JW friend ever getting even a little bit sideways with anyone, ever. sweetest kid you ever met, had no enemies, bullies didn't even mess with him. But he is in an institution now, even though he is saner than the doctors lol. Now he confesses everything, as in TMI everything, like an unintended consequence
