Dispensationalism versus Hyper-Dispensationalism

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gadar perets

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I reject both since they are merely man made categories that are unscriptural, especially the dispensations of Law and Grace.
 
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I reject both since they are merely man made categories that are unscriptural, especially the dispensations of Law and Grace.
Theological terms give a shorthand to use in the conversations. Same is true for rapture and a lot of other things.

Like it or not, we all use them.
 

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Theological terms give a shorthand to use in the conversations. Same is true for rapture and a lot of other things.

Like it or not, we all use them.
I choose not to like them and I don't use them. People that don't want to obey YHWH's laws use them so they can put those laws in a past dispensation.
 

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I choose not to like them and I don't use them. People that don't want to obey YHWH's laws use them so they can put those laws in a past dispensation.

Too late, you already use them. Law and Grace are theological terms.

Also sounds like you're pushing legalism. Not good.
 

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Too late, you already use them. Law and Grace are theological terms.

Also sounds like you're pushing legalism. Not good.
Law and grace are Biblical terms. Dispensation is not.

I don't push legalism. I push obedience.
 

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Many throw these words around without even knowing what they mean.

Up front, I am a Dispensationalist.

Here's a kickoff to get the discussion started:
What is ultra-dispensationalism?
Whoa! That website description is grueling. Just another 'ism.

I prefer Jesus' definition: "the first and the last." It's that simple.
 

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Many throw these words around without even knowing what they mean.

Up front, I am a Dispensationalist.

Here's a kickoff to get the discussion started:
What is ultra-dispensationalism?

I am dispensationalist also. I agree with Ironside, as shown in the link you gave, that ultra-dispensationalism is no good.

But concerning dispensationalism, I do not think one can ever come to a complete understanding of the Scripture without understanding the dispensations God has given us in the Scripture.

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I am dispensationalist also. I agree with Ironside, as shown in the link you gave, that ultra-dispensationalism is no good.

But concerning dispensationalism, I do not think one can ever come to a complete understanding of the Scripture without understanding the dispensations God has given us in the Scripture.

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That is pretty strange. We can't understand Scripture unless we put it in our man made box of dispensationalism? Why do we need to obey nine of the ten commandments as well as the two greatest commandments, all from the dispenation of Law, while we are living under the dispensation of grace? Why did laws exist prior to the dispensation of Law (for example, murder was a sin and Joseph knew adultery was a sin)?
 
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Theological terms give a shorthand to use in the conversations.

I actually don't think that the case for separate dispensations holds up that well, but often in the context of discussing the millennium I am forced to identify as a "dispensationalist" or "non-dispensationalist." In such cases, I identify as a dispensationalist for a lack of a better way to describe my position on that particular issue.
 

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I am dispensationalist also. I agree with Ironside, as shown in the link you gave, that ultra-dispensationalism is no good.

But concerning dispensationalism, I do not think one can ever come to a complete understanding of the Scripture without understanding the dispensations God has given us in the Scripture.

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Good to distinguish whether a passage is talking about the church or Israel; otherwise all sorts of confusion may arise.
 

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That is pretty strange. We can't understand Scripture unless we put it in our man made box of dispensationalism? Why do we need to obey nine of the ten commandments as well as the two greatest commandments, all from the dispenation of Law, while we are living under the dispensation of grace? Why did laws exist prior to the dispensation of Law (for example, murder was a sin and Joseph knew adultery was a sin)?

Gee, one of another faith explaining how Christians are to understand the Bible. That is pretty strange.

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Ironside wrote some good commentaries

I think a lot were sermons that were subsequently printed.

Seems that today it's fashionable for preachers to de-emphasize the Rapture.

Yes. Dispensationalism and the Rapture are demonized today.

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