What distinguishes a "Protestant?"

[CoreIssue]

If it weren't for the law reminding people to remember, they would forget. At least those who can actually bother to read the law... It seems you don't and need that reminder...
KJV Exodus 20
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

It has never in part of the Mosaic law and the New Testament says which ever day one chooses as their Sabbath is fine.

Yet again your espousing false SDA doctrine created by your false prophet.

Again you quote the Old Testament and try to enforce it on the church.

 

[brakelite]

It has never in part of the Mosaic law and the New Testament says which ever day one chooses as their Sabbath is fine.

Yet again your espousing false SDA doctrine created by your false prophet.

Again you quote the Old Testament and try to enforce it on the church.

Never part of the law??? I just quoted the ten commandments man. You can't quote and verse saying any day is okay though can you. And SDAs are not the only church that respect Sabbath. And they do so because if God says the day is sacred, that's good enough for us... Unless you can show a "thus sayeth the Lord" that changes that.

 

[CoreIssue]

Never part of the law??? I just quoted the ten commandments man. You can't quote and verse saying any day is okay though can you. And SDAs are not the only church that respect Sabbath. And they do so because if God says the day is sacred, that's good enough for us... Unless you can show a "thus sayeth the Lord" that changes that.

You quoting doesn't make it part of Mosaic law.

So you deny the New Testament says let no one judge you by your Sabbath and water per day Pete to be your Sabbath is fine. Are you denying it says that?

Or are you just desperately trying to defend the SDA?

 

[CoreIssue]

And once again you disappear when there's a post you don't want to answer.

 

[brakelite]

And once again you disappear when there's a post you don't want to answer.

LOL. your ego is getting the better of you. Should I hang on every word you say and respond immediately because somehow you take precedence over anything else I may be doing?
The NT does indeed say don't judge people re the keeping of Sabbath days. So why are you so determined to undermine my personal reasons for keeping it, and inferring that because I do, I am a member of a cult??
All I say in many of my posts is that obeying God is a sign of your love for Him. If I am wrong, then testify to that. What is so evil and cultic about desiring to obey God's commandments? Why is that so offensive? Why do you feel the need so strongly to defend your reasons for not obeying?

 

[CoreIssue]

LOL. your ego is getting the better of you. Should I hang on every word you say and respond immediately because somehow you take precedence over anything else I may be doing?
The NT does indeed say don't judge people re the keeping of Sabbath days. So why are you so determined to undermine my personal reasons for keeping it, and inferring that because I do, I am a member of a cult??
All I say in many of my posts is that obeying God is a sign of your love for Him. If I am wrong, then testify to that. What is so evil and cultic about desiring to obey God's commandments? Why is that so offensive? Why do you feel the need so strongly to defend your reasons for not obeying?

You're trying to change what you said but it does not work.

You said repeatedly seventh day is law which it is not.

Switching to the work commandment changes nothing. God does not command us in the New Testament to observe Saturday as a Sabbath.

 

[Taken]

Ahhhhh, yes - the "denial" game.
Thank GOD for online forums . . .

BOL still denying Scripture that Joseph was good.

 

[Taken]

You're trying to change what you said but it does not work.

You said repeatedly seventh day is law which it is not.

Switching to the work commandment changes nothing. God does not command us in the New Testament to observe Saturday as a Sabbath.

Jesus did not destroy the Law.

OT / NT
Some people follow OT Law;
Some People follow NT Law;
Some people mix and follow PARTS of each.
Some people follow neither.

It is those who follow neither, I think will be those lefts behind during the Great Tribulation.


Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Willie T]

And I think it will be those who simply follow Jesus and His love, who will not hear "I never knew you." After all, doesn't the Bible say all sorts of people will claiming adherence to one form of law or the other.... to no avail? "Didn't we do this, and didn't we do that?" He even told the Pharisees, "You searched the Scriptures (looking desperately for laws to follow) yet you never found me."

 

[Enoch111]

The NT does indeed say don't judge people re the keeping of Sabbath days.

That is correct. Christians have the liberty to observe whichever days they choose.

 

[brakelite]

That is correct. Christians have the liberty to observe whichever days they choose.

Would you be so confident standing before Christ, the Creator of the Sabbath, and repeating that and He asking, "Why".

 

[CoreIssue]

Jesus did not destroy the Law.

OT / NT
Some people follow OT Law;
Some People follow NT Law;
Some people mix and follow PARTS of each.
Some people follow neither.

It is those who follow neither, I think will be those lefts behind during the Great Tribulation.


Glory to God,
Taken

Christ fulfilled Mosaic law.

The apostles condemned those who pushed keeping Mosaic law.

 

[Enoch111]

Would you be so confident standing before Christ, the Creator of the Sabbath, and repeating that and He asking, "Why".

We can only go by the words of Christ and the apostles as recorded in Scripture.

When Jesus said that the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath, when He said that He was Lord of the Sabbath, and when He deliberately healed on Sabbath days, He was teaching the Jews to (1) re-examine their false ideas about the Sabbath and (2) prepare for the fact that the true Sabbath (the eternal rest) of Christians is Christ Himself, therefore the Lord's Day would fulfil the requirements of the Sabbath for (a) worship, (b) rest, and (c) good works. Now the first day of the week takes precedence over the last day of the week, because Christ our firstfruits rose on that day -- Resurrection Day. Only unbelieving Jews continue to observe the 7th day Sabbath.

In view of this, when Paul was addressing the Church (consisting of Jews and Gentiles) he said: Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. (Col 2:16,17)

Thus all Jewish holy days and festivals were in reality shadows of Christ and His finished work of redemption. And Paul could say this confidently because the Holy Spirit Himself had said to the Gentiles, that only these four laws of Moses would be applicable to them: For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well. (Acts 15:28,29)

 

[brakelite]

We can only go by the words of Christ and the apostles as recorded in Scripture.

When Jesus said that the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath, when He said that He was Lord of the Sabbath, and when He deliberately healed on Sabbath days, He was teaching the Jews to (1) re-examine their false ideas about the Sabbath and (2) prepare for the fact that the true Sabbath (the eternal rest) of Christians is Christ Himself, therefore the Lord's Day would fulfil the requirements of the Sabbath for (a) worship, (b) rest, and (c) good works. Now the first day of the week takes precedence over the last day of the week, because Christ our firstfruits rose on that day -- Resurrection Day. Only unbelieving Jews continue to observe the 7th day Sabbath.

In view of this, when Paul was addressing the Church (consisting of Jews and Gentiles) he said: Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. (Col 2:16,17)

Thus all Jewish holy days and festivals were in reality shadows of Christ and His finished work of redemption. And Paul could say this confidently because the Holy Spirit Himself had said to the Gentiles, that only these four laws of Moses would be applicable to them: For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well. (Acts 15:28,29)

I agree that the feast days were types or prophetic pictures if you will, of redemption in Christ. They were 'shadows', as Paul qualified them. But the 7th day Sabbath was not inaugurated as a solution or type or prophetic picture or shadow of redemption. The Sabbath, the Sabbath that celebrated creation, and instituted as a memorial of that event, was given to man before sin entered the picture. Those feast day Sabbaths were introduced specifically as an antidote and shadow of the cure for sin. Two entirely different concepts, and written in two entirely different laws, though combined in the whole of Torah, the Ten Commandments in which the creation Sabbath was written, on stone suggesting permanency was contained within the ark....the feast days were written on parchment and contained outside the ark...suggesting change.

As to your initial references, that the Sabbath was made for man etc...none of anything you said there contains any concrete evidence that Sunday replaces the Sabbath. It is all conjecture and assumption.

 

[Taken]

Christ fulfilled Mosaic law.

Sure, I believe that.

However NOT all people believe that.

Particularly, MOST Jews do not believe that.

AND WHY, MOST Jews will not participate in Christ's Rapture of His Church....and shall be subject to the Wrath of the Lamb....(when the Lamb is Opening the SEALS during the Tribulation)....and such Jews ministered to by the 2 Witnesses and the 144,000....and come into belief in Christ Jesus and Saved, then resurrected and redeemed....they being Gods ISRAEL.

[QUOTE[The apostles condemned those who pushed keeping Mosaic law.[/QUOTE]

Don't know what Context you reference.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[CoreIssue]

Sure, I believe that.

However NOT all people believe that.

Particularly, MOST Jews do not believe that.

AND WHY, MOST Jews will not participate in Christ's Rapture of His Church....and shall be subject to the Wrath of the Lamb....(when the Lamb is Opening the SEALS during the Tribulation)....and such Jews ministered to by the 2 Witnesses and the 144,000....and come into belief in Christ Jesus and Saved, then resurrected and redeemed....they being Gods ISRAEL.

[QUOTE[The apostles condemned those who pushed keeping Mosaic law.

Don't know what Context you reference.

Glory to God,
Taken[/QUOTE]

Those practicing Judaism are practicing a different religion with a different God. They reject the Trinity and Christ as Messiah.

 

[BreadOfLife]

BOL still denying Scripture that Joseph was good.

Nope - just teaching YOU how to properly divide Scripture.

 

[Taken]

[QUOTE="CoreIssue, post: 500298, member: 7990]

Those practicing Judaism are practicing a different religion [/QUOTE]

Yes, for the most part.

Jews primarily practice Judasim.
A few Jews are Messaniac Jews and practice Christianity and Keep also their Jewish Holy Days.
And Christians practice Christianity.

with a different God.

No. Same Heavenly God.

They reject the Trinity and Christ as Messiah.

Correct.

Taken

 

[Taken]

Nope - just teaching YOU how to properly divide Scripture.

LOL... Deny Scripture...Accuse...
Then divert, divert, divert..from your own accountability....Nothing new with you.

 

[CoreIssue]

[QUOTE="CoreIssue, post: 500298, member: 7990]

Those practicing Judaism are practicing a different religion

Yes, for the most part.

Jews primarily practice Judasim.
A few Jews are Messaniac Jews and practice Christianity and Keep also their Jewish Holy Days.
And Christians practice Christianity.



No. Same Heavenly God.





Correct.

Taken[/QUOTE]

There is a very big spectrum of messianic Jews. One label does not fit all. Some just call themselves Jewish Christians. But none practice Judaism.

But all of them look forward to the restoration of Israel as covenant nation.