What does an enemy of the state look like?

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aspen

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Manafort comes to mind.....so does Trump

But what about his diehard followers who seem to delight in his reckless disregard for laws and cultural norms?

An enemy of the state is a person who desires the end of the state - even those who have an ‘ends justify the mean’ moral code - wanting the end of America to bring about the return of Christ and the end of the world. Christian Zionism is attempting to do God’s work for him - bringing about prophecy, destroying the environment, electing a despot who crashes through all checks and balances and colludes with our enemies, and fear mongering - creating enemies and scapegoating.

Ismael would agree.

I am not a conspiracy theorist - this is happening before our eyes! I am also not a Nationalist - but I am patriotic. We are placing our country in danger and our environment in danger because we think we can control God’s timing.

This is frightening because we are going to destroy western culture and still be waiting for Christ’s return.
 

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I don't think so. Not when you are apologizing for other people. I don't think we have ever had (nor will ever have) a President who apologizes for what he, himself, does.

I do not agree with everything Obama did. He certainly had a long learning curve, but I am not complaining about George W. Bush either
 

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I am not an expert on American politics or policies, and I certainly don't love Trump (personality wise). But I have to say that the man has been a decent President. He has delivered on more campaign promises than any other President/politican than I can put a finger on. He's done wonders for you economy, he's pro-life and pro-Christian...two things the Demoncrat candidates are NOT.
Putting aside the nationalist/globalist agenda for one moment, I think as Chistians we need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. Regardless of whether we like Donald Trump as a person or not, what do we think of his policies and the people he is putting in power, as opposed to the 'other side'? Because from where I sit, it seems quite clear. The Democrats have been showig their true colours clearly. The depths they went to trying to halt Brett Cavanaugh's approval was the tip of the iceberg...one that we got to see more of when the began passing the abortion laws. As a general rule, these people don't care about life or liberty, only their agenda, and they don't seem to care what lines they must cross to get it.
 

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I do have to agree that as a man, I rate Trump pretty low (but I feel that way about most NY and NJ people). He is a person I would not associate with.

But I didn't vote for him to be a buddy. I voted for him for just what he is delivering. We are becoming great again.... something we haven't been in many a decade.
 

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What does an enemy of the state look like?

Like this:
enemyofthestate.jpg


Seriously though
What does an enemy of the state look like?
like this:


evil.jpg


This is the face of extreme evil
 

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I do have to agree that as a man, I rate Trump pretty low (but I feel that way about most NY and NJ people). He is a person I would not associate with.

But I didn't vote for him to be a buddy. I voted for him for just what he is delivering. We are becoming great again.... something we haven't been in many a decade.
How so?
 
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So anything goes with you guys as long as conservative judges are put in place....that is insane.

And claiming that Obama is pure evil.....wow
 
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No, Dems are no good. It was the Dems who put u in a position of the country going down, President Trump is trying to undo the Dems damage.
 
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What I have noticed is that conservatives demand pure character from liberal candidates, but they are quick to defend their own by using the tired, ‘I didn’t vote for him to be my buddy’ excuse
 
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No, Dems are no good. It was the Dems who put u in a position of the country going down, President Trump is trying to undo the Dems damage.

By doing what?
 

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What I have noticed is that conservatives demand pure character from liberal candidates, but they are quick to defend their own by using the tired, ‘I didn’t vote for him to be my buddy’ excuse

Wrong I can't stand liberal candidates
 

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Well, let's start with the greatest thing he has done.

I don't think anyone doubts that we would have been in a serious nuclear war with North Korea long ago if Trump were not the kind of honest, in-your-face negotiator he is. Within a few more weeks one of those missiles they were constantly launching on a regular basis would have fallen on one of our assets, or a friend of ours.... even if it was only accidentally.

Sure we all know Kim is still building his arsenal. Trump knows it, full well, too. But, how many months has it been since there was even one single launch? That was all Trump's doing, no one else. And probably no mealy-mouthed politician could have managed it.

The hostages returned (without paying for it, or swapping killers for them) is something no other president ever accomplished.

You know I could go on all night, but I will end with the neatest thing. When Obama was useless in keeping companies here in America, that incompetent yo-yo actually asked the question, "What is Trump going to do, just pick up the phone and ask them to stay?" That is exactly what CANDIDATE Trump did before he was even elected. Obama was impotent and useless... and dared to mock Trump ..... who stood up and delivered.... because he didn't have the slightest inkling of how to accomplish what Trump was comfortable negotiating on a daily basis.
 

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Well, let's start with the greatest thing he has done.

I don't think anyone doubts that we would have been in a serious nuclear war with North Korea long ago if Trump were not the kind of honest, in-your-face negotiator he is. Within a few more weeks one of those missiles they were constantly launching on a regular basis would have fallen on one of our assets, or a friend of ours.... even if it was only accidentally.

Sure we all know Kim is still building his arsenal. Trump knows it, full well, too. But, how many months has it been since there was even one single launch? That was all Trump's doing, no one else. And probably no mealy-mouthed politician could have managed it.

The hostages returned (without paying for it, or swapping killers for them) is something no other president ever accomplished.

You know I could go on all night, but I will end with the neatest thing. When Obama was useless in keeping companies here in America, that incompetent yo-yo actually asked the question, "What is Trump going to do, just pick up the phone and ask them to stay?" That is exactly what CANDIDATE Trump did before he was even elected. Obama was impotent and useless... and dared to mock Trump ..... who stood up and delivered.... because he didn't have the slightest inkling of how to accomplish what Trump was comfortable negotiating on a daily basis.

The best thing is President Trump is a business man not a politician and he can get things done