Good point! I could leave the town to evangelize. There is a town that I've heard of that is mostly Christians.Sounds lovely but who would you evangelize?
Should Christians run for public office?
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I looked it up:
Dispensationalism
A theory of Bible interpretation known as Dispensationalism was developed in the 1700s and 1800s, primarily by theologians Pierre Poiret (1646 - 1719), John Edwards (1637 - 1716), Isaac Watts (1674 - 1748) and John Nelson Darby (1800 - 1882). Dispensationalism favors a very literal interpretation of Bible prophecies and gives unique interpretations and special significance to end-times events. These theories were popularized by the Scofield Reference Bible, first published in 1909.1
In Dispensational theology, the Rapture will be the centerpiece of Jesus' second coming - a glorious, dramatic event with Jesus coming to literally take believers up into the sky. There are several theories about the timing of the Rapture:
- Pre-tribulational rapture: When John ascends to heaven (Revelation 4:1-2). In this theory, Christians will be taken up before the Great Tribulation (Daniel 9:24-27, Revelation 7:14) and will be spared its suffering.
- Mid-tribulational rapture: When the two prophets ascend to heaven (Revelation 11:11-12)
- Post-tribulational rapture: At the end of the seven bowls (Revelation 16:17-21)
No. A true disciple of Christ does not entangle himself with the affairs of this world. We have a different citizenship and a different ambassadorship.
One can't get involved in politics without getting involved with the devil.
One can't get involved in politics without getting involved with the devil.
The way our country has been so loose with immigration and importing doctors on H1b visas it wouldn't take much imagination to see a complete takeover from within. I read an article about a Mexican immigrant who got elected to office and then made the town a sanctuary city - endangering all the people who lived in the town, to benefit his race. I see why he did it, and maybe some of us would have done it if the situation was reversed, but it didn't help any of the people who lived in the city when a lot of illegals flocked there.
When I see some of the people who get into office it makes me shake my head; my husband & I always ask why no one of quality seems to run. I can't understand it. Even if someone didn't have knowledge of politics, they'd do a better job than many who are elected. I recall reading about this woman - I think from AZ - she was a doctor who ran. I didn't like her; I sensed she was in it for the adulation and power. She promised the moon and after she was elected did the complete opposite. I think Christians need to exercise discernment before casting a vote. Although - there are doubts that in many places that our vote even counts. I tried reporting voter fraud and not one government official called back. It's like they know it.
You have a point. But if Christians don't assume office then we'll be ruled by evil men. Look at what happened when Hitler assumed office. An evil man then ruled over everyone. I know most of the Jews don't believe in Christ but what about the Christians who had to function under someone so evil? That's what is going to happen in America as more and more godless rulers assume office. Look at how our tax dollars are being used to rape and pillage other countries and promote abortion and other evils. I just can't believe that God wants us to sit back and do nothing.
Don't assume that all non-Christians are evil. Many people who seek office do so with altruistic designs....although they have the mixture of wanting the power that goes with the devil's domain.
A Christian is supposed to be wiser than that. Jesus resisted the temptation to take the short-cut of having all political power....offered by the one who bestows political power...Satan.
This fact is what brings into being the temptation to take matters into our own hands rather than looking to God.
Not do nothing...pray and be a witness to the truth. This world is NOT the kingdom of God. We, as Christians, are to do our part. But that part is not to use evil means to correct an evil. We are to overcome evil a different way....by doing good as GOD sends us.
It is a trap to get involved WITH the world without keeping our prophetic distance from it. We are NOT to be OF this world. Yet we are sent into the world to LOVE. It is just that we can't take the shortcut of letting the situation be defined by those who are blind to the truth. We need to show the world another way. Not the way of power....but the way of love.
I have heard it said...ludicrously...that Trump is a necessary evil, ordained by God. (The God who ordains necessary evils???)
Dispensationalism is not a *theory* as stated in your quotation. It is simply a method for properly understanding the Bible. Not just prophecies, but all Scripture, unless there is good reason to see a metaphor of figure of speech. For example Jesus said "I am the Bread of Life". That must be taken in its spiritual sense.
I don't assume most unbelievers are godless. My husband's friend who ran for mayor isn't a believer and I would have voted for him because he's a good man. In fact, he's better than some Christians I've known. I asked that question once, why some Christians are morally worse than unbelievers. I've been burned a few times - badly - by Christians who I place my trust in. Now I no long trust other believers. You have to have one eye on your back.
If you look up some of the articles on why psychopaths seek positions of power it will alarm you. They are the last people who should hold office. My neighbor's unarmed grandson was shot to death by state police; police is one of the jobs that psychopaths seek (that is not to imply that all are; I've known some good police, and my brother-in-law was one. I've also encountered psychopathic police however.) The entire system is psychopathic. My neighbor's family was left destitute - the man slain by police left a wife and two little girls. My neighbor passed away but by now I'm sure the slain man's wife went on welfare. It's a sick system because if an officer is shot and killed then his family gets taken care of - which is right; they should be. But if someone is shot and killed by police, when it's unwarranted, his family gets nothing. That's not right. The system is psychopathic. Most people don't realize it unless they've seen it. But it will become more and more evident as more people are shot and killed in the current police state. And none are usually held accountable. Judges usually always say the shooting was justified.
I'm just afraid that too many believers take that stance of long-suffering and they never try to work to improve things. I can't believe that's what God wants us to do. There is a married official in our city who tried to get a female family member to get together with him. My husband flew to his office and blew up. He left the female family member alone after that. I don't think God expected my husband to sit back quietly and do nothing; fold his hands in prayer and say "God will take care of it." That's what scares me about Christians. Of course we didn't push to have him fired so we didn't take all action that was open to us. But I'm afraid that too many Christians are passive.
That's just one small illustration but I think God wants us to be proactive. I'm afraid of Christians who won't take action. A friend is like that. I've sent her things by email to contact legislators about and she just dismisses it. She won't email legislators, just goes about her business, goes to church, goes on vacations. I don't think that's what God wants. I also don't know of any Scripture that encourages passivity.
This is not true. It did not originate in scripture. It is a theory based on "what if" we place a gap between Daniel's 69th and 70th weeks? And then speculation on how the passage might read. It is false prophecy from start to finish with not a single scripture to support any of its claims.
I didn't write that quote, I took it from a Christian site: https://www.christianbiblereference.org/faq_rapture.htm
I still don't fully grasp it. I've heard the word "Dispensationalism" tossed around but I never studied it.
"Don't feed starving people and protect abused children... just pray for them." Hope utterly stupid.
Exactly; that's a good analogy. I recall watching a western about a Christian sect that interpreted the bible that Christians are never to show any aggression. They stood back while terrible things were done to their families. It was fiction, and I don't know if any religious sects really interpret the bible to mean never defending yourself and your loved ones, but the show was an illustration of how dangerous that type of thinking is.
Christians never used violence to defend themselves in the NT. Jesus rebuked Peter for cutting off Malchus' ear with his sword.
And that's your theory, since Amillennialism and Preterism are false. There is no "what if" since Christ Himself placed a gap between the time of His ascension and the restoration of the kingdom of Israel (which you don't even believe), and this ties in with Daniel's prophecy of 70 weeks.
Now notice carefully what is recorded in Acts 1:
6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
The apostles who were totally familiar with all the OT prophecies regarding the restoration of Israel asked Christ a legitimate question. They were not aware of the Church Age. And had Christ immediately restored the kingdom to Israel, Daniel's prophecy would have been fulfilled at that time. But Jesus indirectly introduced a gap but giving them the Great Commission, and avoiding the issue of when Israel would be redeemed and restored.
It's the HOW we do things that counts. God resists our certainties. The problems in the world are caused by the spiritual failures of the church. Believers want to be certain about everything. So does the world.
Our religious certainties go hand in hand with the technological certainties that are killing our world. If instead we operated by faith then the world would slow down and people would be more careful.
But we are being spiritually careless...so the world follows our spiritual example and throws caution to the wind....just as we do.
We are to work out our own salvation with FEAR AND TREMBLING. We are NOT doing that. And God is not mocked. We are simply reaping what we are sowing. But who is responsible? Why not blame others.
The most utterly stupid idea is to think you need to have power over someone in order to help them. Nonsense. Jesus taught HIS followers to be SERVANTS under others....not masters OVER others. So much for the idiocy of Christian politics. It's of the devil.
People want to be seen as great...not obscure people who work behind the scenes by the grace of God. Hypocrites want to be SEEN to be doing good....otherwise they will do nothing. So much for the self-sacrificial following of Jesus.
This is propaganda of course. It's funny how Christians are just as gullible to propaganda as the world is. We are not to do NOTHING. We are to ACT as Jesus acted. We are HIS body after all. Jesus did NOT return evil for evil. He did good to overcome evil. ACTIVELY.
How do you overcome evil people? Heal their sick...for starters.
You cannot provide one scripture directly supporting any of your Dispensationalist claims. Not one. This makes you a false prophet along with them.
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Nancy
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Oh wow-do you what town/state that is in? How awesome! And, yes...good answer, of course you would just leave the town, lol.
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