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Colossians 3:4 "When Christ, Who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with Him in glory."
Christ is our eternal live, the life of our very soul. You don't have eternal life without Christ.When Christ shall appear at His second advent during the final day of this earth age
OSAS is like saying you can do whatever you want without repenting
The "IF'S" in scripture are very very important,Christ says throughout scripture that He would do this,IF you did that.One of the if's was to repent.That doesn't mean being saved again it means when you do sin,which the flesh will do,you must repent,so my question to those who believe in the osas,what happens when you don't?
So you can't turn away from Christ?
Notice the verse,one cannot cast out demons unless in Christ
You gave all the scriptures that no one can turn us away from Christ,however we can turn ourselves away.
Did you read the verse I quoted?
I think the OSAS issue comes up as a matter of logic. That is, those who think their obedience initially saved them know it is illogical to remain saved apart from obedience. Those who experienced salvation before doing anything know it is illogical to make works necessary to keep salvation. But at the same time they know faith and good works are the evidence of their salvation.
The problem is, you condition salvation on human faith. This turns the gospel into law and makes human faith a condition (work).There you go back to law keeping.
We are saved by faith and repentance in the grace of Jesus.
That is not law. There is some knowledge involved, knowledge is not law. It is understanding and acceptance by freewill, not your Calvinism.
The problem is, you condition salvation on human faith. This turns the gospel into law and makes human faith a condition (work).
Any condition to be met is a work. And human faith is not Holy Spirit faith through which we are saved.Faith is not a work.
You condition salvation on a divine lottery.
Any condition to be met is a work. And human faith is not Holy Spirit faith through which we are saved.
Salvation doesn't work that way. People cannot grasp spiritual truth in their natural state. So they always hear a false gospel and ponder a false Christ. Even when the true gospel is preached. So the Christ they accept is in reality an idol based on their limited ability to perceive truth. The flesh will accept this Jesus and believe in it. But only after God produces new life in a person, will they discern and accept the true Christ.And yet Calvinists try to persuade people to their beliefs.
Just a minute doesn't matter.
Salvation doesn't work that way. People cannot grasp spiritual truth in their natural state. So they always hear a false gospel and ponder a false Christ. Even when the true gospel is preached. So the Christ they accept is in reality an idol based on their limited ability to perceive truth. The flesh will accept this Jesus and believe in it. But only after God produces new life in a person, will they discern and accept the true Christ.
Proof of this is in the hatred people have for the Calvinistic version of Christ which is the true Christ.
You have three choices in salvation. 1) God saves people by grace (Calvinism). 2) people save themselves with God's help (what you believe). Or 3) people save themselves without God's help. So yes we have two different Christ's, two different Christianities, and only ONE is true.Calvinists have a different Christ and the different salvation.
The definition of a cult.
No. God conditions salvation on human faith.The problem is, you condition salvation on human faith.
Let's go where the rubber meets the road,if you sin after being saved are you still saved?
Yes, No Question?
YES!! 100%
Sin is missing the mark, a christian who tells me that he never blows it...I don't believe is truthful. We cannot do it in our own strength.
1 John 2:1 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous..."
We walk intending not to...but often the flesh is weak.