Christ vs the anti-Christ: Who is winning?

[Jane_Doe22]

Joseph Smith | Biography & Facts
Origin of Latter Day Saint polygamy - Wikipedia
History shows Joseph Smith married other men's wives , at least one man attempted suicide because of this.
List of Joseph Smith's wives - Wikipedia

Again: attack the sinner all you want. Cast all the stones you want. I don't care.

Stop falsely accusing and lying.
Thanks

*sigh*
I have NEVER once lied on this forum. I'm sorry that the truth of what I believe does not match the illusion people like Mr Slick painted for you. Frankly, that's not my problem. You can stick with the illusion, or you can be interested getting your facts straight. I really don't care- such is your choice.
But your constant blind personal attacks on me are beyond tiresome. If you continue with this outrageous flaming, I will be forced to report you to the site mods.

 

[CoreIssue]

Again: attack the sinner all you want. Cast all the stones you want. I don't care.

*sigh*
I have NEVER once lied on this forum. I'm sorry that the truth of what I believe does not match the illusion people like Mr Slick painted for you. Frankly, that's not my problem. You can stick with the illusion, or you can be interested getting your facts straight. I really don't care- such is your choice.
But your constant blind personal attacks on me are beyond tiresome. If you continue with this outrageous flaming, I will be forced to report you to the site mods.

Play innocent or you wish proof after proof your religion is a cult has been posted and you have been caught lying more than once.

 

[brakelite]

What, in your opinion, is the earliest heresy commited by the Christian community? I don't mean any heresies talked about in the NT like the one settled at the Council of Jerusalem. I am talking about heresies that we know of from historical writings.

What is the WEAKEST root of the Catholic tree?

That is actually very easy to answer. A document, a blatant fraud foisted upon a gullible populous and used by the Catholic Church for centuries as evidence for Rome's right to rule over all Christendom. And one that to this day is not admitted as being the forgery it is by Catholicism. "The Donation of Constantine".

 

[brakelite]

What is the WEAKEST root of the Catholic tree?

Her illicit relationship with the kings and governments of this world, making her a harlot and adulteress.

 

[tzcho2]

Again: attack the sinner all you want. Cast all the stones you want. I don't care.

*sigh*
I have NEVER once lied on this forum. I'm sorry that the truth of what I believe does not match the illusion people like Mr Slick painted for you. Frankly, that's not my problem. You can stick with the illusion, or you can be interested getting your facts straight. I really don't care- such is your choice.
But your constant blind personal attacks on me are beyond tiresome. If you continue with this outrageous flaming, I will be forced to report you to the site mods.

You have been throwing stones at me for posting the TRUTH about Mormonism , though you have tried to deny it's teachings even when CoreIssue posted the link of Mormonism. It doesn't surprise me at all that you would want to shut up anyone that is exposing this Cult if you think people are too lazy to do their own research -- I don't think people are that lazy myself so it's hilarious to keep denying it's a cult same as Scientology is a cult.
Joseph Smith Cult leader, preached a false deadly gospel.
He is not considered just a sinner by the Bible, but a deceiver , a wolf in sheep's clothing ,a false prophet and an anti-Christ by the Bible's teachings because he taught not the Gospel of Jesus , and taught the opposite to theology and doctrines that is in the Bible.

 

[CoreIssue]

You have been throwing stones at me for posting the TRUTH about Mormonism , though you have tried to deny it's teachings even when CoreIssue posted the link of Mormonism. It doesn't surprise me at all that you would want to shut up anyone that is exposing this Cult if you think people are too lazy to do their own research -- I don't think people are that lazy myself so it's hilarious to keep denying it's a cult same as Scientology is a cult.
Joseph Smith Cult leader, preached a false deadly gospel.
He is not considered just a sinner by the Bible, but a deceiver , a wolf in sheep's clothing ,a false prophet and an anti-Christ by the Bible's teachings because he taught not the Gospel of Jesus , and taught the opposite to theology and doctrines that is in the Bible.

She loves me as well.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

You have been throwing stones at me for posting the TRUTH about Mormonism , though you have tried to deny it's teachings even when CoreIssue posted the link of Mormonism. It doesn't surprise me at all that you would want to shut up anyone that is exposing this Cult if you think people are too lazy to do their own research -- I don't think people are that lazy myself so it's hilarious to keep denying it's a cult same as Scientology is a cult.
Joseph Smith Cult leader, preached a false deadly gospel.
He is not considered just a sinner by the Bible, but a deceiver , a wolf in sheep's clothing ,a false prophet and an anti-Christ by the Bible's teachings because he taught not the Gospel of Jesus , and taught the opposite to theology and doctrines that is in the Bible.

For a third (or fourth?) time now: have fun throwing stones at the sinner Joseph Smith all you want. I really don't care.

 

[CoreIssue]

For a third (or fourth?) time now: have fun throwing stones at the sinner Joseph Smith all you want. I really don't care.

So, are you a Mormon or not. Mormons uphold Joseph Smith as their founder and patriarch. They uphold his book of Mormon. They uphold his and other elders as pillars of the truth.

Just the name Mormon, derived from the book of Mormon and the Angel Moroni define what a Mormon is.

If you're not a Mormon, denounced the cult. If you are, then say you are. Don't try the nonsense Mormonism is not a cult.

 

[tzcho2]

Anyone that tries to pretend that the we have not been saying the bare truth about Mormonism that is exactly the historical fact are either deceived or they are trying to deceive. The facts are historically on record and cannot and should not be denied or covered up.
Mormonism is a deadly dangerous spiritual deception that is fatal to people's eternal souls , and it deceives them about spiritual Truths & their eternal security. This is why Apostle Paul let every Christian know how serious the Holy Spirit feels about these deceptive False gospels that preach something else -- in Galatians 1:8
The thing that unites Christians isn't the so called "love" for Jesus that people who don't agree with the Gospel of Jesus often like to loosely to throw this "love " around , but it is the One Gospel of Jesus Christ which gives salvation which Christians are united by, which is the power & grace of God to save Only and precisely there is but ONE gospel of Jesus that saves --which is what the Word of God aka, the Bible teaches, that salvation is --By grace through faith alone, in Yeshuah's finished work on the cross on Calvary Alone, according to the Bible scriptures Alone.
2 Tim 2:4 "2 Preach the Word; be urgent in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with all long suffering and teaching.
3For the time will come when they will not endure the sound doctrine; but, having itching ears, will heap to themselves teachers after their own lusts; 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth, and turn aside unto FABLES.

2 Tim 3:13 "13 But evil men and IMPOSTERS shall wax worse and worse, Deceiving and Being Deceived.

Galatians 1:6- 10 "6 I marvel that ye are so quickly removing from him that called you in the grace of Christ unto a different gospel; 7 which is not another gospel only there are some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach unto you any gospel other than that which we preached unto you, let him be anathema. 9 As we have said before, so say I now again, if any man preacheth unto you any gospel other than that which ye received, let him be anathema.

10 For am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? or am I striving to please men? if I were still pleasing men, I should not be a servant of Christ.

 

[tzcho2]

For a third (or fourth?) time now: have fun throwing stones at the sinner Joseph Smith all you want. I really don't care.

Say it a billion times Jane, by their fruit we know them. And by your words You are defending a False Prophet, a Cult leader and a DECEIVER and attacking the brethren of Jesus Christ.
That is rotten fruit.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

So, are you a Mormon or not. Mormons uphold Joseph Smith as their founder and patriarch. They uphold his book of Mormon. They uphold his and other elders as pillars of the truth.

Just the name Mormon, derived from the book of Mormon and the Angel Moroni define what a Mormon is.

If you're not a Mormon, denounced the cult. If you are, then say you are. Don't try the nonsense Mormonism is not a cult.

Say it a billion times Jane, by their fruit we know them. And by your words You are defending a False Prophet, a Cult leader and a DECEIVER and attacking the brethren of Jesus Christ.
That is rotten fruit.

@tzcho2 and @CoreIssue, one of the giant things you COMPLETELY misunderstand about me it that you think I care about Joseph Smith way more than I do. You love to tear down a dead sinner whom no one is defending, and spend all your time dong that. And meanwhile you completely ignore where my focus really is at: Christ.

 

[Mjh29]

Got it.....You are unable to quote ANYTHING from Scripture that shows that infants were or were not baptized....That's ok....Neither can I. HOWEVER infants are a part of FAMILIES that were baptized and scripture does say that entire families were baptized so the evidence weighs more toward infant baptism. ALSO the only historical writings we have from that time is that infants were baptized soooooo the evidence leans toward infant baptism. I have evidence to back up my belief....you have no evidence.

It was not until the Reformation that the debate on should infants be baptized or not. The debate BEFORE that was how soon should an infant be baptized. You follow the men of the Reformation.

Thank you for your time.

I'm Presbyterian, so.... where does that leave me in all this? I, too follow the Reformation

 

[tzcho2]

@tzcho2 and @CoreIssue, one of the giant things you COMPLETELY misunderstand about me it that you think I care about Joseph Smith way more than I do. You love to tear down a dead sinner whom no one is defending, and spend all your time dong that. And meanwhile you completely ignore where my focus really is at: Christ.

Why won't you answer the question of CoreIssue?
Are YOU a Mormon?
By not answering you are being deceptive and dishonest.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Why won't you answer the question of CoreIssue?
Are YOU a Mormon?
By not answering you are being deceptive and dishonest.

Here's the problem with CoreIsseus and your question: you really are asking "do you believe all this suttff my anti-cult teacher told me Mormons do?" And that answer is no, because your anti-cult teacher gave you junk information and does NOT match what I believe at all. What I believe is focused on Christ.

 

[tzcho2]

@tzcho2 and @CoreIssue, one of the giant things you COMPLETELY misunderstand about me it that you think I care about Joseph Smith way more than I do. You love to tear down a dead sinner whom no one is defending, and spend all your time dong that. And meanwhile you completely ignore where my focus really is at: Christ.

You are a Mormon so you do not believe in the Jesus that is written in the Bible. You follow Mormon beliefs

Here's the problem with CoreIsseus and your question: you really are asking "do you believe all this suttff my anti-cult teacher told me Mormons do?" And that answer is no, because your anti-cult teacher gave you junk information and does NOT match what I believe at all. What I believe is focused on Christ.

Are You a Mormon?
You refuse to answer honestly.
That is what deceivers do.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Anyone that tries to pretend that the we have not been saying the bare truth about Mormonism that is exactly the historical fact are either deceived or they are trying to deceive. The facts are historically on record and cannot and should not be denied or covered up.
Mormonism is a deadly dangerous spiritual deception that is fatal to people's eternal souls , and it deceives them about spiritual Truths & their eternal security. This is why Apostle Paul let every Christian know how serious the Holy Spirit feels about these deceptive False gospels that preach something else -- in Galatians 1:8
The thing that unites Christians isn't the so called "love" for Jesus that people who don't agree with the Gospel of Jesus often like to loosely to throw this "love " around , but it is the One Gospel of Jesus Christ which gives salvation which Christians are united by, which is the power & grace of God to save Only and precisely there is but ONE gospel of Jesus that saves --which is what the Word of God aka, the Bible teaches, that salvation is --By grace through faith alone, in Yeshuah's finished work on the cross on Calvary Alone, according to the Bible scriptures Alone.
2 Tim 2:4 "2 Preach the Word; be urgent in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with all long suffering and teaching.
3For the time will come when they will not endure the sound doctrine; but, having itching ears, will heap to themselves teachers after their own lusts; 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth, and turn aside unto FABLES.

2 Tim 3:13 "13 But evil men and IMPOSTERS shall wax worse and worse, Deceiving and Being Deceived.

Galatians 1:6- 10 "6 I marvel that ye are so quickly removing from him that called you in the grace of Christ unto a different gospel; 7 which is not another gospel only there are some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach unto you any gospel other than that which we preached unto you, let him be anathema. 9 As we have said before, so say I now again, if any man preacheth unto you any gospel other than that which ye received, let him be anathema.

10 For am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? or am I striving to please men? if I were still pleasing men, I should not be a servant of Christ.

Fact: I *do* readily 100% proclaim that a person is saved by faith. The idea that a person can "work" their way to salvation is downright laughable.
Fact: Galations 1 is one of the most faith affirming chapters of scriptures for me. I love it's focus on Christ and receiving answers through Him.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

You are a Mormon so you do not believe in the Jesus that is written in the Bible. You follow Mormon beliefs


Are You a Mormon?
You refuse to answer honestly.
That is what deceivers do.

I am OCD honest, and I gave that OCD truthful answer already.
If you care about truth, you can ask me about my relationship with Christ. I really don't care what path you choose.

 

[tzcho2]

FYI, no teacher but what the BIBLE teaches how to identify False Prophets & wolves in sheep's clothing & anybody with a brain & will can do the research. I have a great idea, we should see what Dr. Walter Martin said about Christian Cults on the Jon Ankerberg show.

 

[tzcho2]

I am OCD honest, and I gave that OCD truthful answer already.
If you care about truth, you can ask me about my relationship with Christ. I really don't care what path you choose.

oh pahleeze
Answer the question then.
We all know you are btw.

Are you a Mormon?

 

[tzcho2]

Fact: I *do* readily 100% proclaim that a person is saved by faith. The idea that a person can "work" their way to salvation is downright laughable.
Fact: Galations 1 is one of the most faith affirming chapters of scriptures for me. I love it's focus on Christ and receiving answers through Him.

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