I do NOT believe any of that junk Walter Martian just told you.
When you want to listen to the truth and talk about Christ, let me know.
Christ vs the anti-Christ: Who is winning?
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When you want to listen to the truth and talk about Christ, let me know.
I am not a "Mormon" that Walter Martian is describing to you (no one is). If you are interested getting your facts straight and talk about Christ, please let me know.
I have my facts straight .
There is only one Mormonism theology , whether you believe some of it, or all of it is irrelevant. You either follow Mormon theology or Christ of the Bible not both.
Any Mormon is not a Christian or a true follower in Jesus according to the Bible, because the Jesus of the Bible is not the Jesus described in Mormonism.
Mormonism has deceived you.
Again, when you are interested getting your facts straight and talk about Christ, please let me know.
scripture nails it about deceivers and deceiving....
I want no communication with you whatsoever, past present or future-- believe me. I will only to warn people about Mormonism & those who try to deceive others, claiming they follow Christ but don't believe or follow the Jesus of the Bible scripture.
You have tried to protect the name of Joseph Smith just calling him a poor picked on 'sinner' when he was a seducer, a wolf and a cult leader who preached a False Christ, and a False Gospel.
You have tried to hide the Mormon teachings , and shown yourself to completely lack integrity or honesty to the minutest degree.
People should be forwarned.
Do whatever you want. Walter Martain's junk doesn't affect me at all. I love Christ, He is my Savior, and I shall praise Him forever.
Have a nice day.
Ya, all Mormons claim they love Christ and he's their savior -- that is a lie from the pit. Because the Book of Mormon teaches a false theology -- gives a False Gospel and has a False Christ.
Matthew 24:5 "4 Jesus answered, “See to it that no one deceives you. 5 FOR MANY WILL COME IN MY NAME, claiming " I Am the Christ, and WILL DECEIVE MANY. '
Matt 24: 11 " and many false prophets will arise and mislead many."
Matthew 24:5 "4 Jesus answered, “See to it that no one deceives you. 5 FOR MANY WILL COME IN MY NAME, claiming " I Am the Christ, and WILL DECEIVE MANY. '
Matt 24: 11 " and many false prophets will arise and mislead many."
You believe that because Walter Martin told you that, along with many falsehoods.
I believe my standing with Christ because He told me so- my communication and revelation with Him. Again, Galations 1 is one of the most faith affirming chapters of scripture for me.
I don't care what you believe tzcho2. I really don't care if you want to ignore my relationship with Christ. You do whatever you want. It doesn't affect my love of Christ or my relationship with Him.
No I agree with Dr. Walter Martin , because I have done my own research.
It's easy , been doing it since I was a kid-- going to libraries, reading books , magazines, journals, periodicals, articles and writing my own papers and everything! shocking!
Only those who know the true gospel of the Bible , know the true Jesus.
So then would you also say that Jesus was a liar?
"Then said Pilate unto him, Hearest thou not how many things they witness against thee?
And he answered him to never a word; insomuch that the governor marvelled greatly." Matt 27:13-14
My conclusion from this conversation: you do not remotely care about the truth about what I believe. You just don't.
I am OBSESSED with truth. My research is not done with crap sources like Walter Martian, but by walking in to a church, sitting on the pew, and using my ears to hear people explain what they believe. I don't read cherry-picked junk, I read the ENTIRE manuscript, even if it's many many pages. And then I ask a practionor of the faith "hey, am I understand XYZ correctly?" I go, I watch people live their faith, I listen, I learn, and I love them. I love truth.
Come back to me when you can say the same.
If that was actually true you would leave Mormonism and look for the Truth in the Word of God ONLY. The Word of God belongs to Jesus, it is written down by men through the Holy Spirit , the Bible is the only authoritative source. Throw out all the Mormon teachings they are leading you astray you can't have both LDS theology and Jesus because the LDS theology teaches a different origin of Jesus then what is in the Word. LDS is fables & contradicts Jesus & His Word. I pray God will guide you to His Truth so you can truly get saved & be born again.
I got to be blunt here: come back to me when you love truth and are willing to see and listen. Right now you have shown only a love for illusions and darkness-- you cling to these illusions, when you have probably never even stepped foot in a Church of mine. I do not feel like you have listened to a single word of mine, not caring to see me or my relationship with Christ. I have tried to be charitable and patient, over and over again. When you are changed and love truth, then you would be willing to talk about Christ with me, and see for yourself that I am indeed saved.
Until then.
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No offence Amadeus but what's the point? Just showing you are absolutely ignorant of the subject matter, of Mormonism, or why or what was being debated by interjecting the completely nonsensical- useless question , and using a scripture & a situation that has Nothing in common with what was being discussed-- Whatsoever.
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I have talked about Christ to you & given you the Gospel over and over and you have been slippery like an eel. If you remain a Mormon you are not saved Jane and you don't love Jesus' Truth, in fact I believe, the Devil is deceiving you and you've been beguiled to follow Mormon theology. Btw, just loving Jesus is not what saves - the true gospel is what saves. People can say they love Jesus all they want and not have ever known the Gospel of Jesus or received Salvation & be born again. There is only one true Jesus and He is revealed only in the Bible, not in Mormon false teachings.
When you are interested in Truth for real ,you will seek it in the Bible ONLY, it is the only Authoritative source to find Jesus and for True Gospel & the theology that Jesus belongs to and sound doctrine which He preached.
I am done with you.
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Question: "What is the gospel of Jesus Christ?"
Answer: The word gospel means “good news,” so the gospel of Christ is the good news of His coming to provide forgiveness of sins for all who will believe (Colossians 1:14; Romans 10:9). Since the first man’s sin, mankind has been under the condemnation of God (Romans 5:12). Because everyone breaks God’s perfect law by committing sin (Romans 3:23), everyone is guilty (Romans 5:18). The punishment for the crime of sin is physical death (Romans 6:23) and then an eternity spent in a place of punishment (Revelation 20:15; Matthew 25:46). This eternal separation from God is also called the “second death” (Revelation 20:14–15).
The bad news that all are guilty of sin and condemned by God is countered by the gospel, the good news of Jesus Christ. God, because of His love for the world, has made a way for man to be forgiven of their sins (John 3:16). He sent His Son, Jesus Christ, to take the sins of mankind on Himself through death on a cross (1 Peter 2:24). In placing our sin on Christ, God ensured that all who will believe in the name of Jesus will be forgiven (Acts 10:43). Jesus’ resurrection guarantees the justification of all who believe (Romans 4:25).
The Bible specifies the content of the gospel message: “Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve. After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time” (1 Corinthians 15:1–6). In this passage, Paul emphasizes the primacy of the gospel—it is of “first importance.” The gospel message contains two historical facts, both supported by Scripture: Christ’s death and His resurrection. Both those facts are bolstered by other proofs: Christ’s death is proved by His burial, and His resurrection is proved by the eyewitnesses.
The gospel of Jesus Christ is the good news that God provided the way for man to be freed from the penalty of sin (John 14:6; Romans 6:23). But not all people will be saved from hell; only those who place their faith in Jesus will go to heaven when they die (Acts 4:12).
The gospel of Jesus Christ is the best news anyone will ever hear, and what a person does with this news will determine where he or she spends eternity. God is calling you to choose life. Call on the name of the Lord and be saved (Romans 10:13).
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