JESUS, the Holy Spirit, the Only True God.

[101G]

I think if we were to compare our belief systems on all topics, we represent two entirely different Christs. Only one can be true. I agree with historic Christendom and you do not. Which means you think the entire church throughout history has been wrong until you recently came about with your "diversified oneness" theory. In which you present a god who has a split personality and is crazy. Yikes!

GINOLJC, to all.

thanks for the reply. second, I,.... I, recently came about with my, my "diversified oneness" theory. lol. I have nothing in theory, but truth. which means I have everything in Christ Jesus. it's just I, I, "care not for, tradition of men, only God is my guide. now, do I hear what men might say, yes, but the Holy Spirit comfort me in anything men might said. he bring to my remembrance, whatsoever the things he has said before, hence the reason why I'm Comforted. see dave I,... I don't have a belif "system", I, ... I... am a FREE MAN, made free by God. Romans 6:22 "But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life".

"If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed", John 8:36

and true, only God, the Lord Jesus is true. so we cannot walk to together, (Amos 3:3).

and no, I do not agree fully with men church history, and here's why, given in your own question. "Diversified Oneness" has been in the bible all the time from the beginning, and "men" in the church, not all of them was blind to that truth, and came up with their own way, which leades to death. this is why you cannot reconcile John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24, which is God WORD.

see your trinity doctrine is a Johnny come lately, diversified oneness has been here from the beginning.
our Lord was correct, Isaiah 29:13 "Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men". see men teach incorrect precept, yes, "CHURCH" men. some wilfully, and some as was with the apostle Paul, ignorantly. so I cannot put anyone down, I can only point out the truth, it's up to men to hear.


and let us tell you this, "diversified Oneness" has always been, is, and always be the TRUTH of God. some men see it, but many do not, as the Lord said, "strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it". only a few find it. when I was in the majority, trinity believers, I said, "until God almighty himself tells me the trinity is in error I want believe otherwise". yes, I said that. but as the scriptures are true, Romans 3:3 "For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
Romans 3:4 "God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged". I'm a man, and yes, when I said those words I believed that I was correct, nope, I lied, and God is always true. so being a man I know men lie, willfully, to serve their own purpose or unintentional in ignorance.

we suggest this, if I'm wrong in what "Diversified Oneness" states, pray for me that the Lord will open my eyes. else pray, so that your eyes be open to the truth......... (smile).

PICJAG.

 

[101G]

The “Holy One", the First and the last, who is Jesus the Christ?.

How many person is God? Three, two, or ONE, let the scriptures speak.

Isaiah 40:18 "To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him?
here in this verse God describe himself as a "HIM". Him is a single person. God said that he is a “Him”, and not a "them". ONE NEEDS to READ THAT VERSE AGAIN. this verse eliminates and trinity. God said that he is one PERSON. Let’s support this, in the same chapter.

Isaiah 40:25 "To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? saith the Holy One”.

Here again, God Identifies himself as the "me", the "I", the “Holy One”. one means “one”. correct, God said that he is a “I”, a single designation, only one person. God himself said this, can God lie? No, God forbid. Now,
Just one more, Isaiah 46:5 "To whom will ye liken me, and make me equal, and compare me, that we may be like?”. again, “me” is a single designation, ONE PERSON.

Now the Revelation, Isaiah 43:15 "I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King.
So the LORD, all caps is the Holy One, the creator, the King. And many has said, that JESUS is YHWH, who is the “LORD”, all caps. Now this,

Isaiah 44:6 "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God”. BINGO, there it is, the LORD, all caps, who is YHWH, and many say, who is Jesus, is the “FIRST” and the “LAST”. and Jesus is one person.

Uh O, STOP, the scriptures states that the Lord Jesus is the Holy One, (JESUS = YHWH) who is the First and the last? Let’s see, Revelation 1:16 "And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
Revelation 1:17 "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
Revelation 1:18 "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death”.
this is a closed case, the First and the last is JESUS, and many say that Jesus is the YHWH, the LORD. meaning he's the SAME person.


The Holy One, his EQUAL?
God the Holy One said who will ye “liken” ME, or who is mine “equal”. let’s see, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God”. SAY WHAT!, did not God just say "who is his EQUAL" and the lord Jesus says he is. is this a contridiction? if so then the word of god is not true, God forbid.

Well, well, well, do we have a true contradiction here? No, again, but did not God said, Isaiah 40:25 "To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? saith the Holy One”. we cannot deny these scriptures, either JESUS is EQUAL with God or he is GOD in the flesh. if true, HOW. that;s been the million dollar question.

But do not this statement by God himself contradict the trinity doctrine that says all three person are “EQUAL”. but God said, there is no one equal, nor like “HIM”, and not them. Him is a single designation.

So how can the trinity persons be separate, and distinct, but yet “equal?”, not according to the bible, God himself. listen again, Isaiah 40:18 "To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him?

Let's compare. Jesus is the Holy ONE. Acts 3:14 "But ye denied the Holy One (Jesus) and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you; 15 "And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses”. Hold it, "GOD RAISED?", lets see, John 2:19 "Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
John 2:20 "Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
John 2:21 "But he spake of the temple of his body.

did not the apostle say “God raise up that body?”. Jesus said that he raised up his body. yes, thank you, Jesus is the ONE God, the Holy One who raise up his OWN body from the dead.

Jesus is Lord (in flesh) and LORD (without flesh), the Holy One. The evidence are right before our eyes, and yet some still believe the lie….. (smile).

PICJAG.

 

[Dave L]

GINOLJC, to all.

thanks for the reply. second, I,.... I, recently came about with my, my "diversified oneness" theory. lol. I have nothing in theory, but truth. which means I have everything in Christ Jesus. it's just I, I, "care not for, tradition of men, only God is my guide. now, do I hear what men might say, yes, but the Holy Spirit comfort me in anything men might said. he bring to my remembrance, whatsoever the things he has said before, hence the reason why I'm Comforted. see dave I,... I don't have a belif "system", I, ... I... am a FREE MAN, made free by God. Romans 6:22 "But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life".

"If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed", John 8:36

and true, only God, the Lord Jesus is true. so we cannot walk to together, (Amos 3:3).

and no, I do not agree fully with men church history, and here's why, given in your own question. "Diversified Oneness" has been in the bible all the time from the beginning, and "men" in the church, not all of them was blind to that truth, and came up with their own way, which leades to death. this is why you cannot reconcile John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24, which is God WORD.

see your trinity doctrine is a Johnny come lately, diversified oneness has been here from the beginning.
our Lord was correct, Isaiah 29:13 "Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men". see men teach incorrect precept, yes, "CHURCH" men. some wilfully, and some as was with the apostle Paul, ignorantly. so I cannot put anyone down, I can only point out the truth, it's up to men to hear.


and let us tell you this, "diversified Oneness" has always been, is, and always be the TRUTH of God. some men see it, but many do not, as the Lord said, "strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it". only a few find it. when I was in the majority, trinity believers, I said, "until God almighty himself tells me the trinity is in error I want believe otherwise". yes, I said that. but as the scriptures are true, Romans 3:3 "For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
Romans 3:4 "God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged". I'm a man, and yes, when I said those words I believed that I was correct, nope, I lied, and God is always true. so being a man I know men lie, willfully, to serve their own purpose or unintentional in ignorance.

we suggest this, if I'm wrong in what "Diversified Oneness" states, pray for me that the Lord will open my eyes. else pray, so that your eyes be open to the truth......... (smile).

PICJAG.

What you are presenting is an image of God that is like "Norman Bates" in the Alfred Hitchcock thriller "Psycho". Where Norman had a split personality. What you would call "diversified oneness". Norman spoke sometimes as the "mother" and then at times as himself - "the son". This concept of God is not only blasphemous, it is worse than the typical Oneness doctrine of modalism.

 

[101G]

What you are presenting is an image of God that is like "Norman Bates" in the Alfred Hitchcock thriller "Psycho". Where Norman had a split personality. What you would call "diversified oneness". Norman spoke sometimes as the "mother" and then at times as himself - "the son". This concept of God is not only blasphemous, it is worse than the typical Oneness doctrine of modalism.

Dave, no scripture, and as for split personality let's see. scripture, Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me".

now Dave is the ARM of GOD a PERSON yes or NO?

PICJAG.

 

[Dave L]

Dave, no scripture, and as for split personality let's see. scripture, Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me".

now Dave is the ARM of GOD a PERSON yes or NO?

PICJAG.

Your question only reveals how much you do not know about God.

 

[101G]

Your question only reveals how much you do not know about God.

LOL, LOL, LOL, can't answer?, so it reveals how much U don't know about God. ...

so dave is the ARM of God a Person, you got the floor,,,,

PICJAG.

 

[Dave L]

LOL, LOL, LOL, can't answer?, so it reveals how much U don't know about God. ...

so dave is the ARM of God a Person, you got the floor,,,,

PICJAG.

Is the "arm of the Lord" the split personality you keep saying god has?

 

[101G]

Is the "arm of the Lord" the split personality you keep saying god has?

GINOLJ, TO ALL.
if, if, if,?, Let the verses speak.
Isaiah 53
*1* Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
*2* For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
*3* He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

*4* Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

*5* But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

*6* All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
*7* He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
*8* He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
*9* And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

*10* Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall pros


Who is the "him" & "he" here ? the arm of God, Jesus

PICJAG

 

[Dave L]

GINOLJ, TO ALL.
if, if, if,?, Let the verses speak.
Isaiah 53
*1* Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
*2* For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
*3* He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

*4* Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

*5* But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

*6* All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
*7* He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
*8* He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
*9* And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

*10* Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall pros


Who is the "him" & "he" here ? the arm of God, Jesus

PICJAG

All you are claiming is your ignorance of scripture and giving "god" a split personality you call "Diversified Oneness".

 

[101G]

All you are claiming is your ignorance of scripture and giving "god" a split personality you call "Diversified Oneness".

GINOLJC to all.
First thanks for the reply, second, we can take this as you cannot answer, the question, nor do you know who the "he", or "him" is in Isaiah 53?..... the ARM of God revealed is JESUS the Christ. God himself shared in flesh and bones with blood.

lol, no, he's not a split personality, the same person only in "another" form, just as Phil. 2:-8 states.

so U don't know nothing, do you. again this is basic bible study.

lastly, according to you, if I'm ignorant in the scriptures then correct me. .... if you can.....

PICJAJ

 

[Dave L]

GINOLJC to all.
First thanks for the reply, second, we can take this as you cannot answer, the question, nor do you know who the "he", or "him" is in Isaiah 53?..... the ARM of God revealed is JESUS the Christ. God himself shared in flesh and bones with blood.

lol, no, he's not a split personality, the same person only in "another" form, just as Phil. 2:-8 states.

so U don't know nothing, do you. again this is basic bible study.

lastly, according to you, if I'm ignorant in the scriptures then correct me. .... if you can.....

PICJAJ

You have a warped view of God and try to push it off as biblical. Split personality and all. You have nothing more than an idol of your own making.

 

[101G]

You have a warped view of God and try to push it off as biblical. Split personality and all. You have nothing more than an idol of your own making.

you have no scripture to back up anything you are saying, nor can you refute anything we has said....

we can answer in scriptures, and by the scriptures. Isaiah 53, states this is God own ARM. if it's his "OWN" ARM then it's (him). no Split personality at all. but you cannot answer, because you don't know how explain this.

Step A. Split personality?, lol, lets get the truth,
Isaiah 40:18 "To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him?
here in this verse God describe himself as a "HIM", one person. you men say God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. one nature 3 person, well Isaiah 40:18 calls that assessment a lie.
Men say, God one nature, but 3 person. well God is a Spirit, that's his NATURE. now as for personality God said that he is a "HIM". Isaiah 40:18 "To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him?". here the bible stated by God almighty himself, declare himself as a "HIM"


Clearly Isaiah 40:18 states that "GOD" is a single person by addressing himself as "him", and not "THEM", meaning many persons............. Say what? yes, that just eliminates any 3 person in trinity. now you can't use the 3 persons any more.

now you can add, Isaiah 40:18 to the Isaiah 44:24 and John 1:3 reconcile.

PICJAG.

 

[Dave L]

you have no scripture to back up anything you are saying, nor can you refute anything we has said....

we can answer in scriptures, and by the scriptures. Isaiah 53, states this is God own ARM. if it's his "OWN" ARM then it's (him). no Split personality at all. but you cannot answer, because you don't know how explain this.

Step A. Split personality?, lol, lets get the truth,
Isaiah 40:18 "To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him?
here in this verse God describe himself as a "HIM", one person. you men say God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. one nature 3 person, well Isaiah 40:18 calls that assessment a lie.
Men say, God one nature, but 3 person. well God is a Spirit, that's his NATURE. now as for personality God said that he is a "HIM". Isaiah 40:18 "To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him?". here the bible clearly stated by God almighty himself


Clearly Isaiah 40:18 states that "GOD" is a single person by addressing himself as "him", and not "THEM", meaning many persons............. Say what? yes, that just eliminates any 3 person in trinity. now you can't use the 3 persons any more.

now you can add, Isaiah 40:18 to the Isaiah 44:24 and John 1:3 reconcile.

PICJAG.

You assume you correctly interpret the scriptures you present. And then scoff when others interpret them correctly. It's better to point out the distorted view of God you created out of thin air giving him a split personality, and then using double talk to call it something more sane sounding - "Diversified Oneness".

 

[101G]

You assume you correctly interpret the scriptures you present. And then scoff when others interpret them correctly. It's better to point out the distorted view of God you created out of thin air giving him a split personality, and then using double talk to call it something more sane sounding - "Diversified Oneness".

interpret?, interpret?, is thats what U been doing? no wonder you're so lost, but let get this interpretation clearly. 2 Peter 1:20 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation".

if that's what you been doing, that's your problem. what you need to do is get off the milk and get on meat.

lastely, "diversified Oneness" is strictly about God "Sharing himself in flesh, or as the bible puts it he's the Diversity of the Spirit himself. the Greeks casll this sharing of oneself as G243 allos. just as in John 14:6 when he said I will send you "ANOTHER" conforter. man this is too easy.

PICJAG.

 

[Dave L]

interpret?, interpret?, is thats what U been doing? no wonder you're so lost, but let get this interpretation clearly. 2 Peter 1:20 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation".

if that's what you been doing, that's your problem. what you need to do is get off the milk and get on meat.

lastely, "diversified Oneness" is strictly about God "Sharing himself in flesh, or as the bible puts it he's the Diversity of the Spirit himself. the Greeks casll this sharing of oneself as G243 allos. just as in John 14:6 when he said I will send you "ANOTHER" conforter. man this is too easy.

PICJAG.

You are pushing a false Jesus based on your theory that gives "god" a split personality.

 

[101G]

You are pushing a false Jesus based on your theory that gives "god" a split personality.

again, you can't answer the question. again, you have no scripture to correct me, and no scriptures to support yourself.

look, don't take this the wrong way, but the only thing you want to do is just talk, vain babbling. that's what facebook and tweeter are for.

here, we are discussing the bible.

so you need to answer by scriptures.........

PICJAG.

 

[Dave L]

again, you can't answer the question. again, you have no scripture to correct me, and no scriptures to support yourself.

look, don't take this the wrong way, but the only thing you want to do is just talk, vain babbling. that's what facebook and tweeter are for.

here, we are discussing the bible.

so you need to answer by scriptures.........

PICJAG.

You need to accept the true Christ so you can understand the scriptures.

 

[101G]

You need to accept the true Christ so you can understand the scriptures.

GINOLJC, to all.
First thanks for the reply, second, U need to accept the truth, because Isaiah 40:18 is the truth, "To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him?

that truth of God right there in that one verse, nullify your doctrine of the trinity. God is a "HIM", and his OWN ARM is "HIM" lol, lol, lol, do we have two Him's, of course not, his OWN "ARM" is him in flesh. (we'll enlighten you later on his own ARM).

see dave, the reason why you cannot grasp this, is by the scriptures, 1 Corinthians 2:13 "Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1 Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

to understand "diversified Oneness" dave, you will need the Holy Spirit as your teacher.

PICJAG.

 

[Dave L]

GINOLJC, to all.
First thanks for the reply, second, U need to accept the truth, because Isaiah 40:18 is the truth, "To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him?

that truth of God right there in that one verse, nullify your doctrine of the trinity. God is a "HIM", and his OWN ARM is "HIM" lol, lol, lol, do we have two Him's, of course not, his OWN "ARM" is him in flesh. (we'll enlighten you later on his own ARM).

see dave, the reason why you cannot grasp this, is by the scriptures, 1 Corinthians 2:13 "Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1 Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

to understand "diversified Oneness" dave, you will need the Holy Spirit as your teacher.

PICJAG.

We still have your "Norman Bates Psycho Jesus". According to you "god has a split personality". You need to pray for deliverance and accept the Christ of the bible. Only then will you understand the scriptural doctrine of Christ and the trinity.

 

[101G]

We still have your "Norman Bates Psycho Jesus". According to you "god has a split personality". You need to pray for deliverance and accept the Christ of the bible. Only then will you understand the scriptural doctrine of Christ and the trinity.

You say...... No scriptual dave....... that says it all.

read up on the ARM of God for it's coming next......

PICJAG.