Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

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101G

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You're talking about first one.

Verse 24 on is to the nation of Israel.

Talks about the Temple in Jerusalem Andrews which did not exist when it was just Jacob/Israel.

So no error by me.

Fact remains the Logos, second person of the Trinity, entered the flesh of Jesus Christ and became Jesus, became human. At the incarnation, not a second before.
GINOLJC to all, second, you said, "Verse 24 on is to the nation of Israel.
Talks about the Temple in Jerusalem Andrews which did not exist when it was just Jacob/Israel.
So no error by me
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are you that bland that you cannot read? you must have read the wrong verse, listen,
Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself"
so you're still in ERROR.
Then you said, "Fact remains the Logos, second person of the Trinity, entered the flesh of Jesus Christ and became Jesus, became human. At the incarnation, not a second before".
God never became human as a SECOND PERSON of any Trinity." so another ERROR on your part.
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But you asked who the human father and mother of Jesus were. If a human father and she was not a virgin. But she was so God the father via the Holy Spirit was.

Which defeats your anti-Trinity view.
ERROR God the Father via the Holy Spirit?, that's as ignorant as one can get. the Holy Spirit is GOD, God is a Spirit my God...... oh well.

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All human bodies are made from Dirt. At least until the glorified.
that's the only thing you got right yet.

now one question, "Did the body that Jesus can in did it emanate from mary yes or no?

instead of arguing, NO.

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GINOLJC to all, second, you said, "Verse 24 on is to the nation of Israel.
Talks about the Temple in Jerusalem Andrews which did not exist when it was just Jacob/Israel.
So no error by me
".
are you that bland that you cannot read? you must have read the wrong verse, listen,
Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself"
so you're still in ERROR.
Then you said, "Fact remains the Logos, second person of the Trinity, entered the flesh of Jesus Christ and became Jesus, became human. At the incarnation, not a second before".
God never became human as a SECOND PERSON of any Trinity." so another ERROR on your part.
PICJAG.
You say God changes. He says he does not. The Son of God is eternal, not having beginning or end, as is the Father who eternally begets him, and the Holy Spirit who eternally proceeds from them. Again, if you listen to the Church and stop attacking her, you would know these things.
 
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that's the only thing you got right yet.

now one question, "Did the body that Jesus can in did it emanate from mary yes or no?

instead of arguing, NO.

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If you say Jesus did not come in the flesh, you definitely have the Spirit of Antichrist.
 

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Who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made himself of no reputation, taking the form of a servant, and coming in the likeness of humanity (Philippians 2:6,7).

It's called the incarnation. In order for Him to understand our trials and temptations, how else could He have done it?? How else could he have suffered BUT become as one of us WITHOUT loosing His divinity.
Correct on Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men". made in LIKENESS, not as men, but in "LIKNESS".

God the Lord Jesus made the body that he came in, scripture, Hebrews 10:5 "Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me".

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You are in over your head on this. Why not learn from the Church instead of attacking her? God is far different from what you suppose.
dave, I learn from God who is the HEAD of the church. second, we attack ignorant. did you not read Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool".

and the trinity believers are not of God..... :eek:

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Correct on Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men". made in LIKENESS, not as men, but in "LIKNESS".

God the Lord Jesus made the body that he came in, scripture, Hebrews 10:5 "Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me".

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But the body and soul are 100% human, only without sin. Jesus' Spirit is the triune God. That is he did not have a human spirit as we do.
 
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dave, I learn from God who is the HEAD of the church. second, we attack ignorant. did you not read Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool".

and the trinity believers are not of God..... :eek:

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Oneness believers have the spirit of Antichrist according to John, because they deny Jesus and ALL that he is, came in the flesh. You say a false Jesus came in the flesh.
 

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You say God changes. He says he does not. The Son of God is eternal, not having beginning or end, as is the Father who eternally begets him, and the Holy Spirit who eternally proceeds from them. Again, if you listen to the Church and stop attacking her, you would know these things.
first as said don't try in put words in my MOUTH. we made it clear as to what God men about he change not on.

second there is no Son of God that's eternal, son of god is a title. now to entertain you curious questions because you don't know nothing at all. ok if we don't know these things then dave tell us is the son of God coming backe for us or the Son of Man coming back for us, the floor is yours.
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But the body and soul are 100% human, only without sin. Jesus' Spirit is the triune God. That is he did not have a human spirit as we do.
ERROR, Jesus already had a soul. did you not say JESUS is YHWH, do not YHWH already have a soul before he came in flesh? yes or No.

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first as said don't try in put words in my MOUTH. we made it clear as to what God men about he change not on.

second there is no Son of God that's eternal, son of god is a title. now to entertain you curious questions because you don't know nothing at all. ok if we don't know these things then dave tell us is the son of God coming backe for us or the Son of Man coming back for us, the floor is yours.
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In many passages Jesus presents his eternal son-ship. But your framework blinds you from seeing it. "Before Abraham was I AM", rings a bell.
 

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Oneness believers have the spirit of Antichrist according to John, because they deny Jesus and ALL that he is, came in the flesh. You say a false Jesus came in the flesh.
YOU said that.... LOL,
so you're saying that we deny that JESUS came in flesh? well post that post then... LOL

we know what we said, it's you who God rejects.

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ERROR, Jesus already had a soul. did you not say JESUS is YHWH, do not YHWH already have a soul before he came in flesh? yes or No.

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Here it is again; Jesus is the name of the triune God. Also the name of the Son of man who spoke in the second person of the trinity as the eternal Son of God. Unlike us being body, soul/mind, and spirit. He is body, soul/mind and God. He did not have a human spirit.
 

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In many passages Jesus presents his eternal son-ship. But your framework blinds you from seeing it. "Before Abraham was I AM", rings a bell.
you didn't as alway not answer the question.

is the son of God coming back for us or is it the Son of man who is coming back for us,

your answer please.... :D

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you didn't as alway not answer the question.

is the son of God coming back for us or is it the Son of man who is coming back for us,

your answer please.... :D

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If you junk the "oneness" framework, created by a bunch of unlearned the AOG called heretics and threw out of their church, you might see Christ for the first time in scripture.
 

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Here it is again; Jesus is the name of the triune God. Also the name of the Son of man who spoke in the second person of the trinity as the eternal Son of God. Unlike us being body, soul/mind, and spirit. He is body, soul/mind and God. He did not have a human spirit.
ok dave who is speaking here, the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit? Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
 

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If you junk the "oneness" framework, created by a bunch of unlearned the AOG called heretics and threw out of their church, you might see Christ for the first time in scripture.
can't answer the question can you,

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ok dave who is speaking here, the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit? Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
Who was the redeemer?