The Elect?

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SovereignGrace

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But is it a sin to be 'in Adam'? Is this in and of itself a sin? You can repeat that over and over, but is it a sin to be 'in Adam' and not 'in Christ'?
All sins have been paid, so if it IS a sin then it was paid for, and if it is NOT a sin then there is no penalty. Either way, the ends to your theological stance is all men are in heaven. God only punishes sin. And you claim He paid for all sins of all men.
He speaketh outeth both sides of his moutheth.
 
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:oops::eek::oops::oops::rolleyes::eek::oops: not even close, try again, read the bible this TIME ;)

I have nothing to change.


The ELECT ?

I would say, the ELECT are those Called to Believe and Responded to the Call...
And have Become "made whole";
body, soul, spirit.
 

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who exactly are the elect...
and how are they selected?

Elected or chosen: Hebrews 10:5
[5] Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

Ephesians 2:10
[10] For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
 
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Being out of Christ means you are in Adam and so in your sins. So, as I said, they remain in their sins and pay the penalty.

All sins have been paid for, in Christ. Not in Adam.

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All in Christ have had their sin debt paid.

All who will remain in Adam are there because their debt has not been paid, not because it has been and they didn't do something to save themselves. No one goes to hell double jeopardy.
 

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All in Christ have had their sin debt paid.

All who will remain in Adam are there because their debt has not been paid, not because it has been and they didn't do something to save themselves. No one goes to hell double jeopardy.

The Bible says Jesus was the second Adam. He never says he replaced Adam.

Adam means humankind and our flesh will remain human until glorification.

Our spirits are from God, not Adam.
 

Preacher4Truth

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The Bible says Jesus was the second Adam. He never says he replaced Adam.

Adam means humankind and our flesh will remain human until glorification.

Our spirits are from God, not Adam.
OK... o_O

Now, try to stay on topic without eisegeting everything others say. You know, just like you do to Scripture.
 

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I also have already stated a good definition for elect is laid out in Romans 8. Those are for new would love him he predestined all the way to glorification and no one can take them from him.

Nothing about God predestining anyone to love him.
 

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I also have already stated a good definition for elect is laid out in Romans 8. Those are for new would love him he predestined all the way to glorification and no one can take them from him.

Nothing about God predestining anyone to love him.

Oh, still preaching works. God knew (according to you) you would reach out and love and choose him, so he rewarded you with eternal life, but you make a category error (a really really serious one) and call it a gift.

What a kind, nice, soft little lost in your sins and dead outside of Christ individual you were to muster up the ability to do this, even when Christ said you were unable.

#moreheresy