Wet Paint Principle (Freedom)

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Episkopos

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4 If I fail to obey the law, the Lord will not impute it to me as sin—Romans 4:8. Now I cannot sin because I am not under the law, am dead to the law, and am delivered from the law—and sin is the transgression of the law. Because where the law does not apply, there is no transgression. Romans 4:15, 5:13.

5 Therefore I am perfect in Christ no matter what I do—and yet this is predicated on a heart that desires to obey the Lord and all of His commandments—and He is the God of the Old and New Testaments.

6 Because I am born of God I don’t want to sin and I don’t have to sin. Therefore I cannot sin, not because I couldn’t go down that path if I wanted to, but because I don’t want to and don’t have to go down that path.


The OP is false grace. I hope this has been posted to show the folly of the proposition. The Holy Spirit doesn't deny us responsibility for our actions.....the Spirit makes us MORE accountable for these. So the reasoning is backwards.

This tract is written by a person stuck in Romans 7 but who seeks to justify himself in that. Unlike Paul who cried out to the Lord for deliverance into a Romans 8 walk.
 

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This tract is written by a person stuck in Romans 7
It is based on an understanding of Romans 7:7-13 and is the key to not being stuck in a Romans 7:14-25 lifestyle. It is written from a perspective of victory; while Freedom 4:7-end are written from the perspective of one who is become as weak in order that he might gain the weak.

@Episkopos, I'm afraid that you have a religious spirit; not willing to be honest with yourself about the fact that you are a sinner; and if saved, a sinner saved by grace.
 
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It is based on an understanding of Romans 7:7-13 and is the key to not being stuck in a Romans 7:14-25 lifestyle. It is written from a perspective of victory; while Freedom 4:7-end are written from the perspective of one who is become as weak in order that he might gain the weak.

@Episkopos, I'm afraid that you have a religious spirit; not willing to be honest with yourself about the fact that you are a sinner; and if saved, a sinner saved by grace.


How is the "wet paint" principle different from the fresh snow covering the dung heap principle?

The religion is in the man-made theory that tries to explain the bible but without the experience of victory. It assumes that there is no victory in Christ in this life....as you are doing. But that is a stance of unbelief. Unbelievers also believe that in Christ there is no victory in this life.
 

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How is the "wet paint" principle different from the fresh snow covering the dung heap principle?

Have you even read the document? One does not touch snow covering a dung heap to see if there is dung underneath because of a sign saying that there is dung underneath.

The religion is in the man-made theory that tries to explain the bible but without the experience of victory. It assumes that there is no victory in Christ in this life....as you are doing. But that is a stance of unbelief. Unbelievers also believe that in Christ there is no victory in this life.

The document Freedom is all about how to obtain victory in light of the wet paint principle which is something that every one of us has to deal with.
 

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Would you like to finish your sentence?

This document is, of course, based greatly on what the scripture says and teaches.

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Would you like to finish your sentence?

This document is, of course, based greatly on what the scripture says and teaches.

Sentenced finished and I did not say what you cut and pasted was not based on scripture.
 

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Sentence fi


Sentenced finished and I did not say what you cut and pasted was not based on scripture.
No, but someone else implied that.

Also, FYI, Freedom originated with my mind (hopefully from the Holy Spirit first) and I did not cut and paste it from another source.

If you are referring to the fact that it is located also on other Message Boards, that is because of my zeal in promoting the document.
 

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No, but someone else implied that.

Also, FYI, Freedom originated with my mind (hopefully from the Holy Spirit first) and I did not cut and paste it from another source.

If you are referring to the fact that it is located also on other Message Boards, that is because of my zeal in promoting the document.

I am not someone else and am not responsible for what someone else said.
 

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Hello

The Kingdom of Priest, a Holy Nation and God's possession among the Nations Covenant was entered into before the priesthood of the Levites was established and it was based on the order of Melchizedek in that all of the princes of the twelve tribes were also the Priests within that tribe. The priesthood was not limited before this covenant was entered into to the leaders of the respective tribes, but God was wanting all of Israel to be Priests for Him and for them to be Holy.

Jesus is the working model of the priesthood that is required in the Kingdom of God when it is established in our near future. The Levitical Priesthood had a sunset clause in the duration of their priesthood that came into effect after around 1600 years of their service in this role.

God has said the Levitical priesthood would be severely judged because they did not tend the flock of Israel well and had become fat and shouldered many of the sheep out of their way as they muddied the water and trampled the grass on which they were being feed.

When God redeems Israel in our near future he will make like new again the Kingdom of Priest, a Holy Nation and His Possession among the nations Covenant with the nation of Israel. God will plant Israel in good soil on which to draw nourishment from as they send down roots into the teaching of God's statutes concerning the untouched Rock that comes down out of heaven to become the highest mountain on all of the earth where they will be living in all of the placed scattered across the whole earth.

Shalom
 

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This is something that goes "bump" in the night for me. :confused:

Remember the song that goes, "Bumpety, bumpety, … etc." :D
 
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Helen

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Haha!

At least you can say to the Lord....”I posted truth for them to read...”

Maybe some of the new members will see it and read it. :)

It’s a good read .
 
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Thanks for ***bump*** this again, must admit the first time I just thought it was all too long, and I still haven't read it all.
I do have a question though, and it may have come up already but I am not sure I want to read through 9pages !
I must admit that if I had read that when I first came to faith I would have been confused because it takes time to really grasp everything, I realise that some people change and have very powerful conversions, but not everyone. Also you have to get use to christian language, the bible ( especially ,like me, you had not really been part of a Christian environment )
So, who do you aim the tract at - anyone on the street, or people you know are Christian?
I have sent you a message asking if I can have a copy through my email.
It's too long just to read, but would be quite good to take in stages, personally I sometimes need to mull over a truth before I actually ' get it ' - and some truths I need to pray about because ' I believe it, but cannot claim it for myself ' ( well sometimes we have inner barriers to personally claim things - a truth needs to get from our minds to our hearts )
Anyway thanks xx
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justbyfaith

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I would say that it is good to get a base in certain truths even if you have not been in the word for a long time yet. But it is also primarily geared towards people who have a background in the word of the Lord; who will recognize certain truths from their previous readings in the holy scriptures and be able to see them more clearly because of the context that I place them in within the document.

re #180.
 
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